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150,000 pigs about to be culled due to Brexit and Covid 09:25 - Oct 3 with 2739 viewsunstableblue

“This is a travesty and disgusting, the government knew this was coming and have done nothing” says an industry spokesperson

Fruits/Veg farmers need unbelievable volumes of labour!!! And cannot secure any.

42% of garages in south east England were without one type of fuel Friday, approximately 20% without fuel

Head of NFU Scotland states that unless the government start being honest with itself and the public that this in the main a Brexit issue then we cannot progress - to call them Covid recovery visas is disingenuous

When people voted Leave is should have said in brackets ( You are also voting for the worst cabinet in living memory and 15 years of economic damage’

What can we do? Back Starmer? Write to your MP? Get on the streets?

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150,000 pigs about to be culled due to Brexit and Covid on 13:47 - Oct 3 with 665 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

150,000 pigs about to be culled due to Brexit and Covid on 12:06 - Oct 3 by HARRY10

most irrelevant post of the day

the vacancies are almost all in jobs that pay around the minimum wage - that was the state of play when the visa requirements were drawn up

in fact it was an even higher figure, until someone pointed out to the clueless Tories that it would stop the MHS recruiting a whole level of medical technicians

so blocking off those minimal pay workers was always going to cause a shortage, irrespective of what they should be paid

one of the noticeable points of the 2019 election was the sheer stupidity of the arguments being used for voting Tory/brexit

"Labour did not protect us from austerity" being one

that stupidity was expressed as most were only focussed on a xenophobic brexit, and so rather than state that in public they regurgitated whatever they had heard might sound credible

there won't be any 'levelling up' any more than there will be sunny uplands - the heavy industries that caused places like Middleboro, and Tynside to grow have gone, for good - and due to a disastrous housing policy the chances of many moving out have likewise gone, perhaps for good.

visitors to Cornwall were complaining all summer that there was a lack of staff for the pubs/resturants, blithely ignoring that they were staying in the accommodation staff previously lived in - try moving house from 'up north' to work in the south and you have no chance

spend billions on upgrading UK fast fibre broadband to a level found in much of the EU and again no chance, something which could allow for more work to be done in places outside of the south east - instead the country is lumbered with an incredibly costly failure (HS2) which is already obsolete

there is much that was, and still is, clearly wrong, but was never mentioned - it was all about 'get the bloody foreigners out', well many are out and a huge number cannot get back in, perhaps the government will now start to build the housing needed to allow freedom of movement inside the UK - or perhaps it will offer up another vacuous slogan - I think I know what brexiteers want

" all poor people are equal, and we will keep them that way"


Thanks for neatly summing up the need for the Labour Party to have pushed for ensuring a Lexit (including a proper living wage and continued freedom of movement) rather than chuntering on about confirmation referendums and pushing the thick racist northern working class narrative that comes so naturally to you.

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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150,000 pigs about to be culled due to Brexit and Covid on 13:58 - Oct 3 with 659 viewsDarth_Koont

150,000 pigs about to be culled due to Brexit and Covid on 13:42 - Oct 3 by You_Bloo_Right

I haven't read it all by any means but I do have a concern that certainly some of the conclusions drawn aren't explored more fully - it makes the various articles read more like op-ed pieces. Nevertheless I think I have so far seen enough credible points made by seemingly credible observers to make it worth reading.


As credibility goes, this is the best we’ve got.

The articles here are like abstracts from these academic researchers. The difference between these and Op-Ed pieces is the academics have to back this stuff up with evidence and research, the Op-Ed pieces don’t and the only real criteria is the agenda of the columnist/the newspaper, and the amount of clickbait these opinions generate.

Researchers are also unafraid to call out the media, which isn’t just a passive part of the problem but actively complicit in keeping low standards of public communication and democratic accountability.

On a side note, the fact that our major and supposedly objective political media personalities are people as journalistically compromised and fawning over the establishment as Neil, Peston, Kuenssberg, Marr, Robinson etc. should have people worried just as much as the right-wing press baron influence. This is the serious counter-balance??!
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150,000 pigs about to be culled due to Brexit and Covid on 14:29 - Oct 3 with 628 viewsPinewoodblue

Copied this from an American friends Facebook page. He took if from Bloomberg.

Can the Yanks blame Brexit for all their shortages?


’Tis the Season for Price Increases and Missing Stock
Massive supply-chain disruptions are already disrupting the holiday season. Yes, you’re behind, and it’s only October.
By Lara Williams
October 3, 2021, 8:00 AM EDT

So, we’re short on some stuff, huh?

Let’s see. We have shortages of CO2, warehouse space, clowns, gasoline, semiconductor chips, cotton and wind, among other things. That means everything from food to clothing to energy is going to get more expensive. Lots of these shortages (perhaps not the wind) boil down to supply-chain interruptions, such as shortages of much-needed warehouse workers and truck drivers to deliver all the things we want.

The good news is that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Andrea Felsted reports that British retailer Next Plc’s CEO has seen steady improvements in the supply chain “as shipping backlogs clear and factories return to more normal levels of operation. Prices for shipping journeys in the future were already beginning to fall.” The bad news is Thanksgiving and Christmas may already be ruined (or mighty expensive), and we’re barely into pumpkin spice latte season. Too early to be thinking about Christmas? Too bad: Our advice to you is to start buying and ordering things now before they get too expensive or disappear from the shelves.

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150,000 pigs about to be culled due to Brexit and Covid on 15:06 - Oct 3 with 598 viewsmonytowbray

150,000 pigs about to be culled due to Brexit and Covid on 10:24 - Oct 3 by Pinewoodblue

Was thinking of constructive criticism, my news reading is restricted to DM and Guardian with a bit Economist thrown in for good measure. Visual news Aljazeera.


If you don’t read the Byline Times you’re missing out ;)

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150,000 pigs about to be culled due to Brexit and Covid on 15:13 - Oct 3 with 593 viewsmonytowbray

150,000 pigs about to be culled due to Brexit and Covid on 11:50 - Oct 3 by wkj

The much more likely thing to happen is that the Tory party will go to war with itself (as often happens in history) and they end up bickering into another hung parliament.

The lib dem voters took the coalition way too much to heart. Yes, Nick Clegg ended up sleeping with the enemy, however, the tories we reigned in much more during that time. Lib dem voters should have remained loyal, instead of either not voting, or dispersing amoung other parties.


Clegg is now Minister of Propaganda for Facebook, he’s a fraud and like many I still regret giving him my box in 2010.

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I’m concerned about the HP sauce supply chain?! (n/t) on 15:40 - Oct 3 with 571 viewsunstableblue

150,000 pigs about to be culled due to Brexit and Covid on 13:17 - Oct 3 by leitrimblue

Someone's gonna have to butter a lot of bread....



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150,000 pigs about to be culled due to Brexit and Covid on 16:15 - Oct 3 with 548 viewsnoggin

150,000 pigs about to be culled due to Brexit and Covid on 11:53 - Oct 3 by Darth_Koont

For 4 decades, we have followed an individualist neoliberal approach where people have been told by a vast majority of politicians and the political media that voting for themselves and their own economic opportunity was, in fact, the very best thing for society.

There alway was an alternative, but we’ve become as bad as Americans with our blind faith in the dream and blind terror of the politics that focuses on the greater good. That’s ignorant of both the past, the present and the future.

The post-war social programmes of the late 40s, 50s and 60s shaped the UK and dragged millions up through better health, education, housing and social services. Then we said that we’re done with that and stopped.

Other countries in Northwestern Europe and further afield didn’t – and certainly didn’t allow that foundation to erode. Which is why we’re now lagging behind by most social measures and by productivity – our economy is really propped up by a financial services industry that was allowed to become the focus hence widening inequalities with everything and everyone else that’s unconnected.

And looking to the future of climate change, AI, automation and an ageing population we’re similarly unprepared by the current approach without the foresight and investment of governments who can think of the long term costs and missed opportunities of not doing so instead of the quick buck.

It’s really become a hopeless mess with this sort of unbalanced, unopposed direction we’ve blindly followed. And massively divisive too when the majority of people either experience or can sense the underlying inequality and injustice the approach delivers. We’ve now got a country that’s divided by socioeconomic class, age, regions and cultures with little security and hope for the future – and an establishment that seemingly thrives on that division because it gives them unopposed control.

Time to reset and for the majority to act in the majority’s overall interests. Basically it’s time to wake up to where we are in 2021 and what lies ahead.


Excellent summary DK.

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NOW WATCH THIS!! How is this person close to being PM? on 16:47 - Oct 3 with 516 viewsunstableblue

His response is disgraceful



Whilst some idiots may say, well the livestock are going to die anyway?!

It’s the wanton disgusting waste… rather than providing food, the pugs will put in ditches and burnt with petrol

Get this man out of government, being PM isn’t a joke Boris

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I’m concerned about the HP sauce supply chain?! (n/t) on 16:49 - Oct 3 with 510 viewsleitrimblue

I’m concerned about the HP sauce supply chain?! (n/t) on 15:40 - Oct 3 by unstableblue



Best to stock up for Xmas, I have heard several shops already reporting shortages... Slightly concerned about a paxo shortage myself
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150,000 pigs about to be culled due to Brexit and Covid on 16:53 - Oct 3 with 506 viewsDarth_Koont

150,000 pigs about to be culled due to Brexit and Covid on 13:58 - Oct 3 by Darth_Koont

As credibility goes, this is the best we’ve got.

The articles here are like abstracts from these academic researchers. The difference between these and Op-Ed pieces is the academics have to back this stuff up with evidence and research, the Op-Ed pieces don’t and the only real criteria is the agenda of the columnist/the newspaper, and the amount of clickbait these opinions generate.

Researchers are also unafraid to call out the media, which isn’t just a passive part of the problem but actively complicit in keeping low standards of public communication and democratic accountability.

On a side note, the fact that our major and supposedly objective political media personalities are people as journalistically compromised and fawning over the establishment as Neil, Peston, Kuenssberg, Marr, Robinson etc. should have people worried just as much as the right-wing press baron influence. This is the serious counter-balance??!
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Just found this too. A damning snapshot of our political media.

This is the Chief Political Correspondent of the Independent (not the Daily Mail) who thinks that, seemingly relatively OK about the actual sh/tshow of a hard Brexit, austerity, the pandemic response, the potential breakup of the UK, failing neoliberalism, widening inequalities and growing disillusionment, a Labour win in 2017 would have been a disaster for the nation ...



These people are shameless and absolutely bent on defending the status quo, however fecked up, because it’s their status quo and where their own interests lie.
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NOW WATCH THIS!! How is this person close to being PM? on 16:53 - Oct 3 with 504 viewsnoggin

NOW WATCH THIS!! How is this person close to being PM? on 16:47 - Oct 3 by unstableblue

His response is disgraceful



Whilst some idiots may say, well the livestock are going to die anyway?!

It’s the wanton disgusting waste… rather than providing food, the pugs will put in ditches and burnt with petrol

Get this man out of government, being PM isn’t a joke Boris


Wtf are the voting public thinking? Britain has lost all credibility.

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(No subject) (n/t) on 18:05 - Oct 3 with 446 viewsnoggin


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NOW WATCH THIS!! How is this person close to being PM? on 18:24 - Oct 3 with 419 viewsHARRY10

NOW WATCH THIS!! How is this person close to being PM? on 16:47 - Oct 3 by unstableblue

His response is disgraceful



Whilst some idiots may say, well the livestock are going to die anyway?!

It’s the wanton disgusting waste… rather than providing food, the pugs will put in ditches and burnt with petrol

Get this man out of government, being PM isn’t a joke Boris


Is anyone really surprised, given his ' bodies piled high' comment. If he doesn't give a fck about Covid deaths, then he is hardly likely to care about the huge waste this will involve.

Much as his comment was about cancer patients earlier. Talking about wage increases was the words of a desperate man. Wages have fallen, so any increase should be measured against where they are, and were. Every child in a Primary School will grow more than me in 2022 - it doesn't make them taller.

And labour shortages have not driven up wages, other than short term in very select areas. There are over 50,000 nurses needed in the NHS. Has that shortage driven up their wages ?

No.

And this fat, idle, incompetent fraud has seen to that.
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NOW WATCH THIS!! How is this person close to being PM? on 18:31 - Oct 3 with 412 viewsthegloryyears

NOW WATCH THIS!! How is this person close to being PM? on 18:24 - Oct 3 by HARRY10

Is anyone really surprised, given his ' bodies piled high' comment. If he doesn't give a fck about Covid deaths, then he is hardly likely to care about the huge waste this will involve.

Much as his comment was about cancer patients earlier. Talking about wage increases was the words of a desperate man. Wages have fallen, so any increase should be measured against where they are, and were. Every child in a Primary School will grow more than me in 2022 - it doesn't make them taller.

And labour shortages have not driven up wages, other than short term in very select areas. There are over 50,000 nurses needed in the NHS. Has that shortage driven up their wages ?

No.

And this fat, idle, incompetent fraud has seen to that.


Oh great another Brexit Post…
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NOW WATCH THIS!! How is this person close to being PM? on 18:35 - Oct 3 with 400 viewsnoggin

NOW WATCH THIS!! How is this person close to being PM? on 18:31 - Oct 3 by thegloryyears

Oh great another Brexit Post…


Well it's not like brexit has just gone away, is it? Not talking about it won't make it stop.
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NOW WATCH THIS!! How is this person close to being PM? on 19:02 - Oct 3 with 376 viewsHARRY10

NOW WATCH THIS!! How is this person close to being PM? on 18:31 - Oct 3 by thegloryyears

Oh great another Brexit Post…


on a thread about brexit

who would have thought
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