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Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 13:00 - Oct 15 by PhilTWTD
I'm a definite no, incidentally.
It depends where you come from I suppose,if you're from west suffolk or are a cambridgeshire town fan the U's have a little more significance when we play them,but as we play them only rarely they dont get much thought.
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Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 16:20 - Oct 15 with 734 views
Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 14:15 - Oct 15 by BlueBlueBluex2
The ones where Norwich means very little. I live in Cambridge so Cambridge to me is a lot more relevant than another team that I have very little thought about.
Have a think about it, I never went to school where there were Norwich fans. I don't work anywhere with Norwich fans. I really don't get the hype but hey if you guys like it, fill your boots.
I'd be similar, grew up in Haverhill, barely met a Norwich fan outside of Town v Norwich games
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Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 16:51 - Oct 15 with 714 views
Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 14:53 - Oct 15 by BlueBlueBluex2
A Derby is only pertinent to the individual, you are not obliged to work yourself up into a furore alongside others if you don't feel it.
Norwich means nothing to me other than somewhere to have a nice day out. Nothing more, nothing less.
No, football supporting is a tribal thing, and against your rivals it's heightened further. It's most definitely not "only pertinent to the individual."
You sound like you've never been to a football match, let alone a derby.
Trust the process. Trust Phil.
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Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 17:00 - Oct 15 with 698 views
Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 15:59 - Oct 15 by BlueBlueBluex2
So that reads - possibly - that you dislike Norwich because everyone around you does.
I wouldn’t say that either, tbh. Most of my friends ‘support’ big prem teams and I don’t think they give a sh!t about Norwich.
I guess I do dislike them because of animosity that’s existed between the clubs for decades, and because I’m supposed to as a town fan, so I can see your point.
But why does that feeling exist in the first place? Because they’re the second biggest club in East Anglia by miles. There’s no history between us and Cambridge because they’re never usually near our level, whereas Norwich always were.
Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 16:51 - Oct 15 by The_Flashing_Smile
No, football supporting is a tribal thing, and against your rivals it's heightened further. It's most definitely not "only pertinent to the individual."
You sound like you've never been to a football match, let alone a derby.
Define ‘rivals’ - every other team is a rival to me. They all want to beat and humiliate us regardless of where they are geographically, so Norwich is no different to any other team.
Cambridge is local, so the stakes are higher for me as an individual, and therefore it’s a bigger game.
Guess we will have to disagree.
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Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 18:04 - Oct 15 with 643 views
Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 17:26 - Oct 15 by BlueBlueBluex2
Define ‘rivals’ - every other team is a rival to me. They all want to beat and humiliate us regardless of where they are geographically, so Norwich is no different to any other team.
Cambridge is local, so the stakes are higher for me as an individual, and therefore it’s a bigger game.
Guess we will have to disagree.
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"Norwich is no different to any other team"?!?!?!?!?!
You gotta be trolling me, man!!
So to you, Barnsley, for example, are as much of a rival as Norwich?!
Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 16:51 - Oct 15 by The_Flashing_Smile
No, football supporting is a tribal thing, and against your rivals it's heightened further. It's most definitely not "only pertinent to the individual."
You sound like you've never been to a football match, let alone a derby.
You sound like you’ve never been outside Ipswich.
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Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 09:11 - Oct 16 with 502 views
Long before narwich we’re ever in the same division as Town ( we were always old division 1 and they were at best division 2) , Towns considered “ Derby” game was always West Ham Utd. Then over time as narwich started to become a division 1 side , they took over this mantra.
Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 09:11 - Oct 16 by ArnieM
I’d say it IS currently a derby match .
Long before narwich we’re ever in the same division as Town ( we were always old division 1 and they were at best division 2) , Towns considered “ Derby” game was always West Ham Utd. Then over time as narwich started to become a division 1 side , they took over this mantra.
How does that make Cambridge a derby then?
Trust the process. Trust Phil.
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Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 09:40 - Oct 16 with 483 views
Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 09:38 - Oct 16 by The_Flashing_Smile
eh?
They are not Liverpools biggest rivals but we all call it the Merseyside derby in the same way we refer to London derbies or North west derbies even when they aren't playing their historical rivals. This is no different it is an EA derby albeit not THE EA derby
Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 09:11 - Oct 16 by ArnieM
I’d say it IS currently a derby match .
Long before narwich we’re ever in the same division as Town ( we were always old division 1 and they were at best division 2) , Towns considered “ Derby” game was always West Ham Utd. Then over time as narwich started to become a division 1 side , they took over this mantra.
I don't think you'd find 1% of West Ham fans that consider ITFC a "derby". There were 4 or 5 years, starting with the infamous 1975 FA Cup semi, in which there was a sense of rivalry, mostly from us and exacerbated by the fact that Noj were a joke at that time, so WHU were the geographically closest team that were good enough to be a rival.
Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 09:40 - Oct 16 by Bluefish
They are not Liverpools biggest rivals but we all call it the Merseyside derby in the same way we refer to London derbies or North west derbies even when they aren't playing their historical rivals. This is no different it is an EA derby albeit not THE EA derby
The Merseyside derby is a bit of an outlier, but they're still rivals even if it's more of a friendly rivalry than some.
No-one has ever referred to Ipswich-Cambridge as a derby, there is no historical rivalry, and it's not especially close either (you might as well say we have a derby with several of the north London clubs in that case).
The only criteria anyone seems to be calling this a derby by is that they're in the same TV region!
Trust the process. Trust Phil.
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Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 10:28 - Oct 16 with 438 views
It's a local game but not a derby. Historically for Town there is only one derby and that's Norwich. When a win against them gives us bragging rights for the rest of the season. No disrespect to Colchester, Cambridge , Peterborough or at a push Southend they are just local games! I was born in the Brentford area and the only derbies for the Bees are QPR and Fulham the rest of the London teams are just local games. I
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Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 10:42 - Oct 16 with 431 views
Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 09:40 - Oct 16 by Bluefish
They are not Liverpools biggest rivals but we all call it the Merseyside derby in the same way we refer to London derbies or North west derbies even when they aren't playing their historical rivals. This is no different it is an EA derby albeit not THE EA derby
Of course they're their historical rivals.
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Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 10:47 - Oct 16 with 428 views
Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 09:40 - Oct 16 by Bluefish
They are not Liverpools biggest rivals but we all call it the Merseyside derby in the same way we refer to London derbies or North west derbies even when they aren't playing their historical rivals. This is no different it is an EA derby albeit not THE EA derby
Everton are Liverpool's historical rivals you sausage. And it is a derby, of course.
The Man U thing was really just a way for Liverpool fans to wind up Evertonians :)
Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 15:39 - Oct 15 by Hullblue
No gripes with your unusual take on our derbies, but I do think your reasoning is interesting.
I grew up in Ipswich and I don’t think I met a Norwich fan until I moved up North for uni! It’s not like lots of derbies where loads of the fans live and work alongside each other and get under each other’s skin. Because there’s a relatively big distance between the two you rarely meet them - that does contribute to the animosity in a weird way though because you build up this picture of them in your head as six-fingered sister botherers. Then you finally meet one, and you realise you were right.
Are Town-Cambridge matches derbies? on 15:59 - Oct 15 by BlueBlueBluex2
So that reads - possibly - that you dislike Norwich because everyone around you does.
That's kinda how it works though.
Football rivalries are determined by history, and the tribe, not by personal preference. It's what makes football unique, and such a rich part of the social tapestry beyond the game itself, the skills and tactics and business side, in England anyway.
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