| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength 09:44 - Nov 2 with 2139 views | ElderGrizzly |
“It's good to have other formations in the bag," said Ainsworth. "I think we are an unknown with what we're going to do in games and I think that's a strength."
Indeed it is. Yet Mr Cook appears to think the absolute opposite? |  | | |  |
| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 10:29 - Nov 2 with 575 views | portmanking |
| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 10:16 - Nov 2 by itfcjoe |
I don't think teams should be changing too drastically formation wise - it suits some squads better than others, but you should build a squad for a style.
Mainly the base of it, 4 at the back or 3 at the back - the rest from there is quite flexible - we are a 4 at the back side and our formation has drifted between 4231 and 4411/442 whatever has been said in the press about it.
I think there may be scope to go 433 at some point with someone like Harper nominally as the 10 who will play it more as an 8. |
Tonight could just be that opportunity to play Harper in the 10, given the physicality of Wycombe. Perhaps move Chaplin to the left and Aluko or Burns on the right. |  | | |
| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 10:35 - Nov 2 with 560 views | GlasgowBlue |
That’s the main issue isn’t it? We’d have at least 10 more points on the board if Cook could affect the game from the sidelines.
Cook has very good players, who play well within his game plan but we never seem to have an answer when the opposition take control of the game.
As I said the other day, in nearly 40 games I can’t point to one where Cook has made a match winning change.
Before anyone says bringing on Celina against Fleetwood. I mean making changes to personnel and formation that puts us back in control and gives the opposition problems. [Post edited 2 Nov 2021 13:04]
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| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 10:38 - Nov 2 with 548 views | Garv |
| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 09:56 - Nov 2 by Guthrum |
I suspect the difference is that Ainsworth, after nine years in charge at Wycombe, has at least one system which works well and his players are all familiar with. Cook is still trying to get the first one to function smoothly after a fairly complete summer rebuild.
Variations can add flexibility when everyone is on the same page, but chaos when they're not. |
Ainsworth has been in charge nine years?! |  |
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| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 10:50 - Nov 2 with 532 views | footers |
| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 10:08 - Nov 2 by Reuser_is_God |
& why would he? He's been successful everywhere he's been. |
I can think of one exception to that. |  |
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| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 11:00 - Nov 2 with 517 views | OsborneOneNil |
| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 09:55 - Nov 2 by ElderGrizzly |
It’s just an observation, as we appear to suffer in some games from the inability to change.
It also makes us incredibly easy to prepare for.
I get playing to your strengths, but sometimes it’s good to have Plan B/C and this has been a criticism of Cook throughout his career |
So we failed to change tactics or formation v top of the league Plymouth, but, we managed to work THREE guilt edged chances in the final 10 minutes (playing to Plan A, still).
What’s the problem?
We take one of those, or two being greedy, and we are the bollox, and Cook is a genius.
Pathetic. |  | | |
| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 11:01 - Nov 2 with 518 views | Basuco |
| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 10:35 - Nov 2 by GlasgowBlue |
That’s the main issue isn’t it? We’d have at least 10 more points on the board if Cook could affect the game from the sidelines.
Cook has very good players, who play well within his game plan but we never seem to have an answer when the opposition take control of the game.
As I said the other day, in nearly 40 games I can’t point to one where Cook has made a match winning change.
Before anyone says bringing on Celina against Fleetwood. I mean making changes to personnel and formation that puts us back in control and gives the opposition problems. [Post edited 2 Nov 2021 13:04]
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Exactly, bringing on Joe Pigott at Plymouth and playing him wide right so as not to change the 4 2 3 1 made no sense at all and made Plymouth's defending so much easier than having Bonne and Pigott up front for the last 10 minutes. |  | | |
| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 11:21 - Nov 2 with 477 views | OsborneOneNil |
| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 11:01 - Nov 2 by Basuco |
Exactly, bringing on Joe Pigott at Plymouth and playing him wide right so as not to change the 4 2 3 1 made no sense at all and made Plymouth's defending so much easier than having Bonne and Pigott up front for the last 10 minutes. |
We produced THREE great opportunities to score, in those final 10 minutes.
Jesus. | | | |
| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 12:06 - Nov 2 with 435 views | leitrimblue |
| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 10:50 - Nov 2 by footers |
I can think of one exception to that. |
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| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 12:09 - Nov 2 with 428 views | DavoIPB |
| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 09:57 - Nov 2 by _sanctimoanious_ |
Indeed, and like Klopp, Pep et al he will flex from a core base tactic. To suggest Cook changes nothing at all in his approach is a bit simplistic. |
Yep exactly. He sets the team to play the way he wants to but within that he is always making little tweaks here and there. He and some of the players even said it after some of the matches.
Sometimes they play with more width, at other times narrower, he brings players in to counteract their players or switches them round to put more creative players against less abled defenders.
He has more nuance than any of us on here.
As an added bonus all of the players are giving everything for him now. | | | |
| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 13:30 - Nov 2 with 369 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 11:00 - Nov 2 by OsborneOneNil |
So we failed to change tactics or formation v top of the league Plymouth, but, we managed to work THREE guilt edged chances in the final 10 minutes (playing to Plan A, still).
What’s the problem?
We take one of those, or two being greedy, and we are the bollox, and Cook is a genius.
Pathetic. |
What's the problem?
As Edmundson mentioned, we are being out fought in certain areas of the pitch.
And we've lost 16 points from winning positions so far this season, so the 'arrogance' of saying lets just keep doing the same thing appears naïve. | | | |
| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 13:32 - Nov 2 with 368 views | BiGDonnie |
| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 09:51 - Nov 2 by portmanking |
Managers in having different approaches to football tactics shocker.
Why are certain people CONTINUALLY searching for sticks to beat Cook with? It's utterly ridiculous. [Post edited 2 Nov 2021 9:52]
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I can answer this one. It's because we've spent a lot of money on ridiculously good players for this level and we're still sh*t? |  |
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| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 13:33 - Nov 2 with 365 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 12:09 - Nov 2 by DavoIPB |
Yep exactly. He sets the team to play the way he wants to but within that he is always making little tweaks here and there. He and some of the players even said it after some of the matches.
Sometimes they play with more width, at other times narrower, he brings players in to counteract their players or switches them round to put more creative players against less abled defenders.
He has more nuance than any of us on here.
As an added bonus all of the players are giving everything for him now. |
"As an added bonus all of the players are giving everything for him now"
Are they? Genuine question. | | | |
| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 13:45 - Nov 2 with 340 views | ghostofescobar |
As an alternate view, here is the philosophy of the current table toppers, Plymouth, taken from the Guardian today, who have "grown wedded to an attacking 3-5-2. “We try and play the formation no matter who we are playing against,” says the defender James Wilson"
So the same thinking as PC. Doesn't seem to be doing them any harm. |  |
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| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 13:57 - Nov 2 with 327 views | Horseboy |
| Ainsworth saying the ability to alter formations is a huge strength on 12:09 - Nov 2 by DavoIPB |
Yep exactly. He sets the team to play the way he wants to but within that he is always making little tweaks here and there. He and some of the players even said it after some of the matches.
Sometimes they play with more width, at other times narrower, he brings players in to counteract their players or switches them round to put more creative players against less abled defenders.
He has more nuance than any of us on here.
As an added bonus all of the players are giving everything for him now. |
Penney gave it his all on Saturday didnt he, proper brave. | | | |
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