| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. 13:45 - Dec 8 with 2725 views | homer_123 |
I mentioned the other day about Emma Hayes. We really should consider her.
45 years old and.....
FA Women's Super League (4): 2015, 2017—18, 2019—20, 2020—21
FA WSL Spring Series (1): 2017
Women's FA Cup (3): 2014—15, 2017—18, 2020—21
FA Women's League Cup (2): 2019—20, 2020—21
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| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:45 - Dec 8 with 535 views | homer_123 |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:32 - Dec 8 by Radlett_blue |
I agree that some women may be capable of managing a men's pro team, but identifying such a person is very hard as there is no-one with the right experience. Obviously someone might take a big risk & break the mould & it's fair to say that some of the best managers haven't been top pros, but it's a huge ask to parachute in someone with no experience of even coaching male pros to actually manage a men's pro team. |
No more difficult, it seems, than identifying a male coach/ manager that can deliver. [Post edited 8 Dec 2021 14:45]
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| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:46 - Dec 8 with 530 views | FevsBCFC |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:13 - Dec 8 by mrfixit426 |
What has the technique of the players got to do with the ability of a manager? Jose Mourinho could barely kick a ball in a straight line, and Arsene Wenger was a lower league player at best. |
Agree, there is no perfect development path to being a “good” manager. In Mourinho and Wenger cases both had very good mentors, as did Klopp, etc.
I do think your footballing principles have to be ingrained somewhere it by someone. |  | | |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:56 - Dec 8 with 517 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:32 - Dec 8 by Radlett_blue |
I agree that some women may be capable of managing a men's pro team, but identifying such a person is very hard as there is no-one with the right experience. Obviously someone might take a big risk & break the mould & it's fair to say that some of the best managers haven't been top pros, but it's a huge ask to parachute in someone with no experience of even coaching male pros to actually manage a men's pro team. |
People used to say that about Black Quarterbacks in American Football, and also of Black Coaches. The NFL introduced the Rooney rule and now there are Black Coaches at all levels. And, surprise, surprise, incredibly good Black Quarterbacks.
It's not exactly the same, of course, but the Rooney rule was designed to get over the natural bias that we "expect" a successful person in a particular industry to look like those who have been successful before, and it has worked.
So, until an EFL team appoints a female manager we will not know whether gender is a limiting factor on the ability of an individual to do the job. But in nearly every other professional sphere that objection has come to be viewed as ridiculous and subsequent experience has then demonstrated it to be so.
There's never been (as far as I am aware) a female DJ/Announcer at Portman Road. Should it stay that way forever because it would be a risk, or because no Suffolk-based female DJs have pre-match experience? Should we wait until Colchester or Swindon appoint a female DJ first to see how they get on?
The idea that we expect the next successful football manager to look like previous successful managers explains why some people would be very happy for someone like Carrick to come in with (effectively) no experience as Head Coach/Club Manager, but struggle to see the potential, and relevant experience, of Emma Hayes. |  | | |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:56 - Dec 8 with 518 views | Jon_456 |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:13 - Dec 8 by mrfixit426 |
What has the technique of the players got to do with the ability of a manager? Jose Mourinho could barely kick a ball in a straight line, and Arsene Wenger was a lower league player at best. |
The Mourinho & Wenger comment is irrelevant, I'm not questioning her footballing ability.
I'm curious as to whether the standard of coaching of a women's team is at the same level as that in League 1 up. From watching a few women's games, my current assumption is that it isn't to that standard yet. There's little data available to compare coaching in women's game to men's, so would be a huge risk. Of course until someone is given then opportunity, we probably wont know.
I just don't see the point in taking such a huge risk purely because 'it would look great' and tick a few boxes. | | | |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 15:03 - Dec 8 with 501 views | Ryorry |
Emma Hayes by BlacknGoldnBlue 7 Dec 2021 14:43Owners have gone on record as saying they'd love to appoint a female manager. Obviously very succesful and would be a eye catching appointment but also a risk....
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| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 15:37 - Dec 8 with 458 views | homer_123 |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 15:03 - Dec 8 by Ryorry |
Emma Hayes by BlacknGoldnBlue 7 Dec 2021 14:43Owners have gone on record as saying they'd love to appoint a female manager. Obviously very succesful and would be a eye catching appointment but also a risk....
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| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 16:48 - Dec 8 with 409 views | Radlett_blue |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:56 - Dec 8 by ArnoldMoorhen |
People used to say that about Black Quarterbacks in American Football, and also of Black Coaches. The NFL introduced the Rooney rule and now there are Black Coaches at all levels. And, surprise, surprise, incredibly good Black Quarterbacks.
It's not exactly the same, of course, but the Rooney rule was designed to get over the natural bias that we "expect" a successful person in a particular industry to look like those who have been successful before, and it has worked.
So, until an EFL team appoints a female manager we will not know whether gender is a limiting factor on the ability of an individual to do the job. But in nearly every other professional sphere that objection has come to be viewed as ridiculous and subsequent experience has then demonstrated it to be so.
There's never been (as far as I am aware) a female DJ/Announcer at Portman Road. Should it stay that way forever because it would be a risk, or because no Suffolk-based female DJs have pre-match experience? Should we wait until Colchester or Swindon appoint a female DJ first to see how they get on?
The idea that we expect the next successful football manager to look like previous successful managers explains why some people would be very happy for someone like Carrick to come in with (effectively) no experience as Head Coach/Club Manager, but struggle to see the potential, and relevant experience, of Emma Hayes. |
It's not the same at all. Yes racial prejudice used to restrict ethnic minorities to playing only certain positions in both NFL & British football. Racial bias also still seems around on the manager/coaching job market. But that's very different from suggesting that someone who has only coached teams of around U15 standard might not cut it at adult level. |  |
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| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 18:01 - Dec 8 with 374 views | DavoIPB |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:56 - Dec 8 by ArnoldMoorhen |
People used to say that about Black Quarterbacks in American Football, and also of Black Coaches. The NFL introduced the Rooney rule and now there are Black Coaches at all levels. And, surprise, surprise, incredibly good Black Quarterbacks.
It's not exactly the same, of course, but the Rooney rule was designed to get over the natural bias that we "expect" a successful person in a particular industry to look like those who have been successful before, and it has worked.
So, until an EFL team appoints a female manager we will not know whether gender is a limiting factor on the ability of an individual to do the job. But in nearly every other professional sphere that objection has come to be viewed as ridiculous and subsequent experience has then demonstrated it to be so.
There's never been (as far as I am aware) a female DJ/Announcer at Portman Road. Should it stay that way forever because it would be a risk, or because no Suffolk-based female DJs have pre-match experience? Should we wait until Colchester or Swindon appoint a female DJ first to see how they get on?
The idea that we expect the next successful football manager to look like previous successful managers explains why some people would be very happy for someone like Carrick to come in with (effectively) no experience as Head Coach/Club Manager, but struggle to see the potential, and relevant experience, of Emma Hayes. |
Because carrik has experience at Man United as a coach and interim manager and Emma Hayes has experience of women's international football which is still roughly non league standard if not under 15 league 2 standard. | | | |
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| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 18:05 - Dec 8 with 368 views | Churchman |
I couldn’t care a less whether the manager is male, female, Jack Russell terrier, goldfish or a robot. It’s the best person/canine/fish/robot for the job, as far as I’m concerned. |  | | |
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