| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. 13:45 - Dec 8 with 2719 views | homer_123 |
I mentioned the other day about Emma Hayes. We really should consider her.
45 years old and.....
FA Women's Super League (4): 2015, 2017—18, 2019—20, 2020—21
FA WSL Spring Series (1): 2017
Women's FA Cup (3): 2014—15, 2017—18, 2020—21
FA Women's League Cup (2): 2019—20, 2020—21
Women's FA Community Shield (1): 2020 |  |
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| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:00 - Dec 8 with 677 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 13:57 - Dec 8 by homer_123 |
A sh*t stereotypical and sexist joke but hey, if that makes you laugh Lucs. |
Oh come on Homey, If we can't take the p1ss out of each other we've lost - I even enjoy women comedians ripping men to shreds.
We are all fair game, lighten up. |  |
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| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:00 - Dec 8 with 674 views | Radlett_blue |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 13:55 - Dec 8 by jayessess |
Bit patronising to the women's game to suggest elite women's football to lower-league men's football is a step up. |
In terms of relative standard, it is. A League One team would put 10 goals past a women's international team. |  |
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| She wouldnt consider it... on 14:00 - Dec 8 with 673 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| She wouldnt consider it... on 13:59 - Dec 8 by homer_123 |
I'd like to think we might be ever so slightly above AFC Wimbledon in terms of attractiveness to any manager.
But I hadn't seen that MM - cheers. |
Agreed, but I think her general view would still stand. |  |
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| She wouldnt consider it... on 14:02 - Dec 8 with 670 views | Illinoisblue |
Interesting she says that Wimbledon couldn’t afford her. If women’s teams had to fund themselves she wouldn’t be employed at all. |  |
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| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:03 - Dec 8 with 653 views | jayessess |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:00 - Dec 8 by Lord_Lucan |
Oh come on Homey, If we can't take the p1ss out of each other we've lost - I even enjoy women comedians ripping men to shreds.
We are all fair game, lighten up. |
Have you considered that different things might be different. |  |
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| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:06 - Dec 8 with 636 views | jayessess |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:00 - Dec 8 by Radlett_blue |
In terms of relative standard, it is. A League One team would put 10 goals past a women's international team. |
But all that definitively tells you is that the levels of physicality and athleticism are different, doesn't necessarily tell you so much about tactics and technique. | |
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| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:08 - Dec 8 with 631 views | mrfixit426 |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:00 - Dec 8 by Radlett_blue |
In terms of relative standard, it is. A League One team would put 10 goals past a women's international team. |
That's mainly to do with the physicality of the players, not the ability of the coach. Emma Hayes has regularly displayed an extremely knowledgeable understanding of tactics and the subtleties of the game as a whole. Much more than most other 'pundits' we see on television, including many ex-managers. |  | | |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:08 - Dec 8 with 629 views | jeera |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:03 - Dec 8 by jayessess |
Have you considered that different things might be different. |
I like a bit of stereotyping sometimes, if it's in good humour and reasonably funny.
It's all about context isn't it.
And the joke wasn't funny.
Now had he gone down the route of asking if there's enough space in the car park to widen the manager's parking bay, that might have stood a better chance. |  |
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| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:08 - Dec 8 with 625 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:03 - Dec 8 by jayessess |
Have you considered that different things might be different. |
No, I think the reaction to the post is pathetic if I'm honest. | |
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| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:10 - Dec 8 with 619 views | Jon_456 |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:06 - Dec 8 by jayessess |
But all that definitively tells you is that the levels of physicality and athleticism are different, doesn't necessarily tell you so much about tactics and technique. |
Just watching the womens game tells you all you need to know about their technique.
Im all for employing a female manager if shes the best candidate but lets not pretend womens football is of the same standard as the mens game. |  | | |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:12 - Dec 8 with 611 views | homer_123 |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:10 - Dec 8 by Jon_456 |
Just watching the womens game tells you all you need to know about their technique.
Im all for employing a female manager if shes the best candidate but lets not pretend womens football is of the same standard as the mens game. |
So, you don't think tactics, preparation, in game management from women's football is transferable then? | |
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| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:13 - Dec 8 with 611 views | jayessess |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:08 - Dec 8 by jeera |
I like a bit of stereotyping sometimes, if it's in good humour and reasonably funny.
It's all about context isn't it.
And the joke wasn't funny.
Now had he gone down the route of asking if there's enough space in the car park to widen the manager's parking bay, that might have stood a better chance. |
The context is centuries of patriarchy limiting what women can do and 50 years of women's football literally being banned. If we banned men's football for 50 years and made men do virtually all domestic labour for a few hundred years, reckon such jokes would be all good. | |
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| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:13 - Dec 8 with 609 views | mrfixit426 |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:10 - Dec 8 by Jon_456 |
Just watching the womens game tells you all you need to know about their technique.
Im all for employing a female manager if shes the best candidate but lets not pretend womens football is of the same standard as the mens game. |
What has the technique of the players got to do with the ability of a manager? Jose Mourinho could barely kick a ball in a straight line, and Arsene Wenger was a lower league player at best. | | | |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:14 - Dec 8 with 596 views | Herbivore |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:00 - Dec 8 by Radlett_blue |
In terms of relative standard, it is. A League One team would put 10 goals past a women's international team. |
The 300th ranked male tennis player would beat the women's number 1, does that mean Andy Murray was wrong to appoint Amelie Mauresmo as his coach? The physical and athletic prowess of the sexes has little to do with their ability to understand the game or coach it. That's a rather backwards view. |  |
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| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:15 - Dec 8 with 594 views | homer_123 |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:13 - Dec 8 by mrfixit426 |
What has the technique of the players got to do with the ability of a manager? Jose Mourinho could barely kick a ball in a straight line, and Arsene Wenger was a lower league player at best. |
Add to that Bielsa (something like only 100 games), Ralph Ragnick and Thomas Tuchel as well. | |
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| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:19 - Dec 8 with 570 views | clive_baker |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 13:55 - Dec 8 by acj |
Would absolutely love it if we could get Emma Hayes, but I really doubt she'd be interested - if I were her, I'd be very cautious about leaving her role at Chelsea where she's had so much success to go to a club that's been on a slow downward spiral for 20 years and now sits in league one. Just don't think we're that attractive a proposition for someone like her, sadly. |
That would be my fear to be honest. I would love to see female managers in the game, it feels like a long overdue step and fair play to the club that has the courage to do that. My worry would be that our gig is a particularly tough one, as a lot of well qualified managers have shown, none of which have come out of it without their critics, even MM has plenty. I can imagine the abuse, like Mick got, or like last night, years of frustration and some absolute morons who would bring gender into it. It a) wouldn't be fair on her and b) I don't want my club associated with the negative press that would bring. It's a sad way to feel, feels almost like conceeding to the bell ends which I don't like at all. |  |
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| She wouldnt consider it... on 14:23 - Dec 8 with 554 views | clive_baker |
| She wouldnt consider it... on 14:02 - Dec 8 by Illinoisblue |
Interesting she says that Wimbledon couldn’t afford her. If women’s teams had to fund themselves she wouldn’t be employed at all. |
There aren't many mens teams that can fund themselves either to be fair. | |
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| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:23 - Dec 8 with 551 views | Radlett_blue |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:08 - Dec 8 by mrfixit426 |
That's mainly to do with the physicality of the players, not the ability of the coach. Emma Hayes has regularly displayed an extremely knowledgeable understanding of tactics and the subtleties of the game as a whole. Much more than most other 'pundits' we see on television, including many ex-managers. |
OK - so a knowledgeable, well qualified coach who had been hugely successful coaching men's U15 teams would have as good credentials as Emma Hayes. What would be the reaction of we appointed a male (or female) with those credentials?
The male pro game is so different from the women's game, largely because of the differences in physicality. That also means that coaching such players is very different. And we are just talking about coaching here, let alone managing a pro club, which many skilled coaches aren't capable of doing well. The skills required are very different from being a good TV pundit. | |
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| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:25 - Dec 8 with 549 views | Vaughan8 |
"It's the same game" - its not. the top teams in the WSL are vastly superior to the rest.
Even someone like Klopp / Pep etc, would they really do the business with our players? I doubt it. They work well with good players. | | | |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:27 - Dec 8 with 539 views | jayessess |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:23 - Dec 8 by Radlett_blue |
OK - so a knowledgeable, well qualified coach who had been hugely successful coaching men's U15 teams would have as good credentials as Emma Hayes. What would be the reaction of we appointed a male (or female) with those credentials?
The male pro game is so different from the women's game, largely because of the differences in physicality. That also means that coaching such players is very different. And we are just talking about coaching here, let alone managing a pro club, which many skilled coaches aren't capable of doing well. The skills required are very different from being a good TV pundit. |
Talented youth team coaches tend to work their way into better roles though, they're very much a resource men's football is already using. Far more rational to believe that women (50% of the population, virtually none of them managing a men's football team) are an untapped reserve of ability, I would've thought. | |
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| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:30 - Dec 8 with 519 views | WilbrahamBlue |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 13:55 - Dec 8 by acj |
Would absolutely love it if we could get Emma Hayes, but I really doubt she'd be interested - if I were her, I'd be very cautious about leaving her role at Chelsea where she's had so much success to go to a club that's been on a slow downward spiral for 20 years and now sits in league one. Just don't think we're that attractive a proposition for someone like her, sadly. |
Ipswich Town isn't an attractive proposition for Emma Hayes.
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| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:31 - Dec 8 with 520 views | jeera |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:13 - Dec 8 by jayessess |
The context is centuries of patriarchy limiting what women can do and 50 years of women's football literally being banned. If we banned men's football for 50 years and made men do virtually all domestic labour for a few hundred years, reckon such jokes would be all good. |
Yes, I know. | |
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| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:32 - Dec 8 with 514 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 13:52 - Dec 8 by Bluebell |
You called.
I could do a lot better than I have seen the last few seasons. I even know the offside rule. 
Can I have Alan Lee as my assistant please? |
I think he might prove too much of a distraction.
How about if you get us promoted twice you can then have him as Assistant Manager?
#incentivisation | | | |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:32 - Dec 8 with 511 views | Radlett_blue |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:27 - Dec 8 by jayessess |
Talented youth team coaches tend to work their way into better roles though, they're very much a resource men's football is already using. Far more rational to believe that women (50% of the population, virtually none of them managing a men's football team) are an untapped reserve of ability, I would've thought. |
I agree that some women may be capable of managing a men's pro team, but identifying such a person is very hard as there is no-one with the right experience. Obviously someone might take a big risk & break the mould & it's fair to say that some of the best managers haven't been top pros, but it's a huge ask to parachute in someone with no experience of even coaching male pros to actually manage a men's pro team. | |
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| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:34 - Dec 8 with 497 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Wonder if we have the balls to employee a female manager. on 14:00 - Dec 8 by Radlett_blue |
In terms of relative standard, it is. A League One team would put 10 goals past a women's international team. |
I'm pretty confident that we could make heavy weather of that at the moment! | | | |
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