| You learn more from defeat than you do victory 17:17 - Jan 15 with 2105 views | wkj |
Bolton seems to have the measure of us this season, that's for sure. I'm not necessarily trying to say that today was a positive, as it wasn't, but it does give McK the chance to see what he might need to do over the next two weeks.
Individual errors was the story of the day once more- then a failure to get motivated when on the back foot. Plenty of notes for McKenna to take into training as well as the transfer market if necessary. |  |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:45 - Jan 15 with 762 views | bazza |
They certainly kept burns quiet again, and that is the biggest problem, as so
Much of our play and balls into the box come from burns down the right, Penney was poor, so we had nothing on the left, Chaplin looked a lot sharper than the rest when he came on. But it was to late by then. |  | | |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:47 - Jan 15 with 755 views | Churchman |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:18 - Jan 15 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Be nicer to have nothing to learn! |
I had to laugh at that and you are quite correct. The OP is correct too in my view.
As for somebody suggesting we’d have been better off with Cook because he’d have basically had the gaps filled by now, that all sounds a bit fantasy football to me.
Cook has gone because he replaced a L1 mid table team with another one and was quite frankly all over the shop. I really hoped Cook was the man, but he made naïve, stupid mistakes, was a poor fit and deservedly kicked out.
KM has seen the other side of us today. I’m hoping he learns from it and comes across as the sort of person that will. |  | | |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:51 - Jan 15 with 724 views | pennblue |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:38 - Jan 15 by wkj |
You're reaching pretty hard here. The stats are Won 2, Lost 1 - claiming otherwise is manipulating the facts. |
Those stats are since sacking the manager. |  |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:52 - Jan 15 with 716 views | wkj |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:51 - Jan 15 by pennblue |
Those stats are since sacking the manager. |
I appreciate that, but we cant lump it into the assessment of McKenna - | |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:53 - Jan 15 with 716 views | homer_123 |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:51 - Jan 15 by pennblue |
Those stats are since sacking the manager. |
And the stats with Cook don't look a whole lot better fella.
Cooks gone...move on. |  |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:55 - Jan 15 with 706 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:51 - Jan 15 by pennblue |
Those stats are since sacking the manager. |
And a slight improvement on what Cook achieved in over 40 matches before he was sacked.
Have you got a point? I don't think it is the one you think you are making?
Were you happy with the direction of travel under Cook? How many more overhauls to the squad do you think he would need before we were top half of the league form? Do you think he might have eventually got us good enough to reach the play-offs in some future season? Have you any evidence for that?
Aside from 1 defeat today (note you have given him 3 matches not 43), have you any evidence to back your assumption that (66.7% win percentage) McKenna is not an improvement on (29.5% win percentage) Cook? |  |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:59 - Jan 15 with 691 views | wkj |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:55 - Jan 15 by Nthsuffolkblue |
And a slight improvement on what Cook achieved in over 40 matches before he was sacked.
Have you got a point? I don't think it is the one you think you are making?
Were you happy with the direction of travel under Cook? How many more overhauls to the squad do you think he would need before we were top half of the league form? Do you think he might have eventually got us good enough to reach the play-offs in some future season? Have you any evidence for that?
Aside from 1 defeat today (note you have given him 3 matches not 43), have you any evidence to back your assumption that (66.7% win percentage) McKenna is not an improvement on (29.5% win percentage) Cook? |
I may be mistaken, but I thought Pennblue was an advocate of Cook's first half-season here being one that shouldn't count. Yet, the results under McGreal absolutely SHOULD count for KMK... | |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 18:03 - Jan 15 with 679 views | pennblue |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:59 - Jan 15 by wkj |
I may be mistaken, but I thought Pennblue was an advocate of Cook's first half-season here being one that shouldn't count. Yet, the results under McGreal absolutely SHOULD count for KMK... |
sorry I have switched now, having been told that results are everything, or don't they count any more. Make your mind up. | |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 18:04 - Jan 15 with 675 views | wkj |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 18:03 - Jan 15 by pennblue |
sorry I have switched now, having been told that results are everything, or don't they count any more. Make your mind up. |
It wasn't a spicy comment on my part. I am merely stating the Paul Cook's record is pointess to compare to MkKenna's - both in terms of scope, or %ages. | |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 18:13 - Jan 15 with 654 views | Churchman |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 18:03 - Jan 15 by pennblue |
sorry I have switched now, having been told that results are everything, or don't they count any more. Make your mind up. |
Of course they matter. Nobody is saying they don’t. But like everything in life you learn more from the tough times than you do when things are going well. Same applies to football team performances.
Sorry, you cannot compare Cook to McKenna yet. In 40 or 50 matches time you can make some sort of comparison, but until then the bloke needs to be cut some slack.
The games under McGreal shouldn’t be included either, but to be fair to JM, he steadied things with the performances at Wigan and against Sunderland. | | | |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 18:34 - Jan 15 with 620 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 18:03 - Jan 15 by pennblue |
sorry I have switched now, having been told that results are everything, or don't they count any more. Make your mind up. |
So you have switched to results counting. But you are counting results that were before McKenna was manager. You continue to dismiss Cook's results (so you haven't really switched at all) and you focus on 1 defeat rather than 2 wins.
As I say, you are not making the point you think you are making.
The only conclusion so far is that Cook is no better than no manager at all and was woeful in comparison to the early stages of McKenna. | |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 18:48 - Jan 15 with 606 views | stonojnr |
It's disappointing to lose for sure,but we were never going to go unbeaten till the end of the season & I was expecting a defeat today for some reason,but the important thing is how the players, the team, McK react to it, how do they face the next game,that will tell us far more about McK and the future for Town than this game does by itself so keep the faith. | | | |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 19:16 - Jan 15 with 575 views | Illinoisblue |
We should be graduating L1 with first class fooking honours then. |  |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 19:19 - Jan 15 with 569 views | Ryorry |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:21 - Jan 15 by wkj |
I agree. I like what Penney is capable of, but I hate how inconsistent he is. Inconsistency is costly for us, so we need better. |
I didn't see the game, just heard the comm, but from that it sounded as though we'd have been better off leaving Norwood on, subbing Penney with Chaplin about 5 mins earlier, & going on the attack at that point? |  |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 20:23 - Jan 15 with 534 views | SitfcB |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:34 - Jan 15 by pennblue |
Lost 3
Drawn 2
Won 2.
The two wins were one against a very poor Gillingham, and the other one was scraping a 1-0 against Wycombe (where we were lucky to not draw).
1st January Paul Cook would have had his replacements lined up, a new central midfielder, a new left back and a new centre back.
Maybe lessons will be learn't from this, maybe not. |
Shut up. |  |
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