| Wish I had voted Leave now! 18:56 - Jan 28 with 4668 views | cbower |
It's truly been an epiphany for me and I must have a large piece of humble pie. I never realised how wide ranging the advantages of leaving the EU are. I feel obliged to list them all now as a kind of personal catharsis and redemption to confess how wrong I was to vote Remain. So here goes:
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Going well isn't it! |  |
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| Wish I had voted Leave now! on 14:25 - Jan 29 with 464 views | MalcolmBlue |
| Wish I had voted Leave now! on 12:27 - Jan 29 by Churchman |
In the definitions it says:
‘Alternative definitions of a full vaccination, e.g. having been infected with SARS-CoV-2 and having 1 dose of a 2-dose protocol, are ignored to maximize comparability between countries.’
So the stats you quote at for a max 2 vaccinations (Omicron needs the booster) and even that difference between the EU and the U.K. on those is only 0.18. Statistics and lies - there’s been a lot of that,
There was no gamble in the U.K. and with the use of the word ‘more careful’ and ‘fast and loose’ you imply that a risk was taken because the U.K. had to while it was all sunlit uplands in Europe. Fine, but I don’t remember it that way and I believe that’s very unfair on the regulatory people that worked so hard.
The regulators here, who made up a good proportion of the EU regulators once upon a time, from what I’ve read did their part faster and more effectively than their EU counterparts and I believe they deserve credit for that. If you’ve evidence that shows they were pressured politically to approve without doing the necessary work, I’d be interested to see it. |
Interesting opinions there, Churchman. You didn’t strike me as the type to accuse the University of Oxford of being disreputable enough not to fact-check their datasets. |  |
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| Wish I had voted Leave now! on 15:00 - Jan 29 with 432 views | HARRY10 |
| Wish I had voted Leave now! on 23:00 - Jan 28 by Sparky85 |
I can remember the charts in the media showing how far we were ahead of other European countries in the vaccine rollout. I may be wrong but I think we were about 20m people when others were in the thousands.
I feel that if we were still part of the EU at the time of investing/purchasing vaccines we would have been in the same pool as them, not able to negotiate our own deal. |
Utter nonsense
Maybe you could check the number of UK deaths as a result of the Tories leaving us down to the bare bones in PPE, and fat boy not locking down early enough
Misinformation needs addressing, as we in the world of the Germans having the mYth of being 'stabbed in the back in 1918' - they were plenty willing to peddle that lie afterwards
You cannot stop people believing in what they want - but you can challenge and correct what they are saying
warning - uncomfortable reading for brexiters
https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-brexit-did-not-speed-up-uk-vac |  | | |
| Wish I had voted Leave now! on 18:31 - Jan 29 with 379 views | Churchman |
| Wish I had voted Leave now! on 14:25 - Jan 29 by MalcolmBlue |
Interesting opinions there, Churchman. You didn’t strike me as the type to accuse the University of Oxford of being disreputable enough not to fact-check their datasets. |
I in no way questioned their stats or challenged them and you’d be hard pushed to find anything I said that did that. If I did that’s a mistake on my part. Who the heck would I be to do that?
What I did was copy their ToR printed against their graph and question your interpretation of what the UKs regulatory bodies did by comparison with the EUs - and to highlight that ‘full vaccination’ is different to full vaccination plus booster and so are the outcomes if you catch this dreadful virus.
Please feel free to challenge. I am an ignoramus compared to those working with this and others with a far better understanding than me. |  | | |
| Wish I had voted Leave now! on 18:37 - Jan 29 with 374 views | MalcolmBlue |
| Wish I had voted Leave now! on 18:31 - Jan 29 by Churchman |
I in no way questioned their stats or challenged them and you’d be hard pushed to find anything I said that did that. If I did that’s a mistake on my part. Who the heck would I be to do that?
What I did was copy their ToR printed against their graph and question your interpretation of what the UKs regulatory bodies did by comparison with the EUs - and to highlight that ‘full vaccination’ is different to full vaccination plus booster and so are the outcomes if you catch this dreadful virus.
Please feel free to challenge. I am an ignoramus compared to those working with this and others with a far better understanding than me. |
Ah fair enough, just crossed wires | |
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| Wish I had voted Leave now! on 18:44 - Jan 29 with 379 views | cbower |
| Wish I had voted Leave now! on 12:47 - Jan 29 by Trequartista |
I voted to remain, on balance, but i have to be honest, it's not been the catastrophe that was predicted. I don't think anyone except those in the Leave campaign were expecting any financial benefits from leaving, it was all about sovereignty really. Had the common market not turned into a vehicle for political union, we'd still be in it. |
Unfortunately the Treaty of Rome committed members of the EU to far more than 'The Common Market' that Edward Heath duplicitously sold the British Public in the early 1970s. Political cooperation was always in the treaty and part of the deal to which we were latecomers. We just chose to ignore it over and over. | |
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| Wish I had voted Leave now! on 18:49 - Jan 29 with 368 views | Churchman |
| Wish I had voted Leave now! on 18:37 - Jan 29 by MalcolmBlue |
Ah fair enough, just crossed wires |
Probably my rubbish messaging tbf. You know how hard it can be getting views/thought over in any coherent order 😃 | | | |
| Wish I had voted Leave now! on 18:22 - Jan 30 with 274 views | BlueBadger |
| Wish I had voted Leave now! on 12:47 - Jan 29 by Trequartista |
I voted to remain, on balance, but i have to be honest, it's not been the catastrophe that was predicted. I don't think anyone except those in the Leave campaign were expecting any financial benefits from leaving, it was all about sovereignty really. Had the common market not turned into a vehicle for political union, we'd still be in it. |
LOL, no you didn't. |  |
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