| Wondering why they are dragging their heels ? 14:46 - Mar 3 with 2662 views | HARRY10 |
I expect the list below might be an answer
List of MP's who have received funding from Russia sources -
Brandon Lewis MP £48,000 + £14,500
Theresa Villiers MP £2,000
Gavin Williamson MP £30,000
Mark Pritchard MP £5,000
Rory Stewart ex MP £10,000
Alok Sharma MP £10,000
Simon Hart MP £23,000
Rishi Sunak MP £6,000
Robert Buckland MP £5,000
Anne-Marie Trevelyan MP £2,500 + £17,000
James Wharton exMP £25,000
David Morros MP £10,000
Will Quince MP £5,750
Ruth Davidson MSP £20,000
Tom Pursglove MP £10,00 +£6,666.66
Robert Courts MP £3,000
Micheal Ellis MP £10,000
James Wharton exMP £15,000
Guto Bebb ex MP £5000 + £6,666.66
Liam Fox MP £10,000
John Whittingale MP £8000
Nigel Adams MP £33,800 + £2,500
James Warton exMP £30,250
Andrew Percy MP £10,000
Simon Clarke MP £10,000
And I'm sure there's more still to come out... [Post edited 3 Mar 2022 14:50]
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| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 14:50 - Mar 3 with 2078 views | blueislander |
Prior to Putin’s invasion of Ukraine , it was quite legitimate to do business with Russian companies. To critise you would need to know from where this income was actually derived. | | | |
| and/or be a bit of a tit. (n/t) on 14:52 - Mar 3 with 2040 views | WD19 |
| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 14:50 - Mar 3 by blueislander |
Prior to Putin’s invasion of Ukraine , it was quite legitimate to do business with Russian companies. To critise you would need to know from where this income was actually derived. |
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| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 14:55 - Mar 3 with 2025 views | HARRY10 |
| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 14:50 - Mar 3 by blueislander |
Prior to Putin’s invasion of Ukraine , it was quite legitimate to do business with Russian companies. To critise you would need to know from where this income was actually derived. |
err no
try having a look at 'unexplained wealth orders' it might help
meanwhile
"Electoral Commission figures show Boris Johnson’s party continues to accept money from Lubov Chernukhin — wife of a former minister in Vladimir Putin’s government."
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-donations-russia-lubov-chern | | | |
| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 15:03 - Mar 3 with 1996 views | HARRY10 |
| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 14:50 - Mar 3 by blueislander |
Prior to Putin’s invasion of Ukraine , it was quite legitimate to do business with Russian companies. To critise you would need to know from where this income was actually derived. |
It is NOT about doing business with Russian companies, if only that it is NOT Russian companies making the donations
but individuals directly linked to Putin
- with the thought that they are merely a conduit for Putin to make these payments
Political parties are not supposed to accept donations from questionable sources - conflict of interest etc
But I expect you already know this, and your post is merely a desperate attempt to defend your 'betters'. | | | |
| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 15:06 - Mar 3 with 1987 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 14:50 - Mar 3 by blueislander |
Prior to Putin’s invasion of Ukraine , it was quite legitimate to do business with Russian companies. To critise you would need to know from where this income was actually derived. |
It's known. Take Brandon Lewis, for example, includes donations from "Lubov Chernukhin, a banker and wife of Mr Putin’s former deputy finance minister, and £23,000 from Alexander Temerko, a former chief of a Russian arms company." ( https://www.greatyarmouthmercury.co.uk/news/great-yarmouth-brandon-lewis-russia- what a source!)
i.e. clearly financially implicated with people currently or previously close to the Kremlin and Russian military machine.
If not illegal, this has been a concern for years and nothing has been done about it because the people who are receiving these donations are the only ones who can clean it up and remove the possibility of potential conflicts of interest. |  |
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| Wondering why they are dragging their heels ? on 15:16 - Mar 3 with 1955 views | HARRY10 |
The UK is leading the way in dealing with the oligarchs, boasted the bloated buffoon in Parliament
Yet, as ever with fatso, the truth is far different
"Boris Johnson is under growing pressure from the EU to go further and faster in imposing sanctions on Russian oligarchs over fears that assets are being swept out of the UK.
Contrary to the prime minister’s claims to be leading the world in the economic response to the invasion of Ukraine, there is frustration among allies over the UK’s lethargy in hitting Russian wealth."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/03/eu-urges-uk-to-act-faster-before-r
The UK is allowing those Russkies 18 months before action is taken - while the rest of the EU is already acting. Must be a blessing for the garrulous gutbucket that the UK is out of the EU, so it can.
Naughty French
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/03/germany-seizes-russian-billionaire
meanwhile the UK has seized two inflatables in the channel - that'll learn 'em, the UK don't want refugees (not brown faced ones) | | | |
| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 15:17 - Mar 3 with 1941 views | blueislander |
Read my post again. I stated that you would need to know the exact source of the income. You have shown a couple of examples where the source appears dodgy, and, I would hope that these people would not receive any further funds from them. I would also hope that everyone of them is examining the source of their income. To simply tar them all with the same brush is just a knee jerk reaction. | | | |
| Wondering why they are dragging their heels ? on 15:21 - Mar 3 with 1922 views | gordon |
It's the donations to the conservative party as a whole, rather than to individuals, which is the bigger problem. Lots of the cash will be funnelled through individuals/trusts/shell companies etc. so we'll never know where it came from. |  | | |
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| Wondering why they are dragging their heels ? on 15:25 - Mar 3 with 1902 views | blueislander |
| Wondering why they are dragging their heels ? on 15:21 - Mar 3 by gordon |
It's the donations to the conservative party as a whole, rather than to individuals, which is the bigger problem. Lots of the cash will be funnelled through individuals/trusts/shell companies etc. so we'll never know where it came from. |
But the Conservatives should now simply not accept these. Ideally they should return them, but I don’t know whether that is feasible. [Post edited 3 Mar 2022 16:32]
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| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 15:29 - Mar 3 with 1876 views | BlueBadger |
| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 15:17 - Mar 3 by blueislander |
Read my post again. I stated that you would need to know the exact source of the income. You have shown a couple of examples where the source appears dodgy, and, I would hope that these people would not receive any further funds from them. I would also hope that everyone of them is examining the source of their income. To simply tar them all with the same brush is just a knee jerk reaction. |
They're Tories. It'll not be coming from Nice And Fluffy or honest people looking to do good by their employees, the environment or the country in general. |  |
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| Wondering why they are dragging their heels ? on 15:39 - Mar 3 with 1819 views | gordon |
Ha, Brexit apparently being blamed for the absence of any effective sanctions.
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| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 15:42 - Mar 3 with 1797 views | blueislander |
| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 15:29 - Mar 3 by BlueBadger |
They're Tories. It'll not be coming from Nice And Fluffy or honest people looking to do good by their employees, the environment or the country in general. |
All of them? | | | |
| Wondering why they are dragging their heels ? on 15:44 - Mar 3 with 1795 views | BlueBadger |
| Wondering why they are dragging their heels ? on 15:39 - Mar 3 by gordon |
Ha, Brexit apparently being blamed for the absence of any effective sanctions.
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Who'd have thought that when they were talking about 'take back control' they were directly addressing the oligarchs who were funding them? | |
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| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 15:45 - Mar 3 with 1792 views | BlueBadger |
| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 15:42 - Mar 3 by blueislander |
All of them? |
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| Wondering why they are dragging their heels ? on 15:53 - Mar 3 with 1747 views | Steve_M |
| Wondering why they are dragging their heels ? on 15:39 - Mar 3 by gordon |
Ha, Brexit apparently being blamed for the absence of any effective sanctions.
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Government by briefing to the press rather than action still then?
Thread here on the reality:
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| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 16:05 - Mar 3 with 1711 views | blueislander |
| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 15:45 - Mar 3 by BlueBadger |
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Fair enough. I would have preferred to read a more reasoned post than just screaming TORIES BAD PEOPLE. | | | |
| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 16:13 - Mar 3 with 1673 views | Steve_M |
| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 15:45 - Mar 3 by BlueBadger |
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Best to avoid using Melville's tweets really, he is showing himself to be real scum:
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| Wondering why they are dragging their heels ? on 16:17 - Mar 3 with 1658 views | Basuco |
| Wondering why they are dragging their heels ? on 15:25 - Mar 3 by blueislander |
But the Conservatives should now simply not accept these. Ideally they should return them, but I don’t know whether that is feasible. [Post edited 3 Mar 2022 16:32]
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The Germans are seizing yachts. The French are seizing yachts. Meanwhile, Britain is letting oligarchs quietly put their affairs in order before slipping out of the country. |  | | |
| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 17:05 - Mar 3 with 1544 views | HARRY10 |
| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 15:17 - Mar 3 by blueislander |
Read my post again. I stated that you would need to know the exact source of the income. You have shown a couple of examples where the source appears dodgy, and, I would hope that these people would not receive any further funds from them. I would also hope that everyone of them is examining the source of their income. To simply tar them all with the same brush is just a knee jerk reaction. |
I would give up trying to defend your betters, as
"I stated that you would need to know the exact source of the income. "
More so when I suggested you read up on unexplained wealth orders
Which curiously when I searched on the internet, brought this up
"Unexplained Wealth Orders allow for the confiscation of property without proving criminality, by reversing the burden of proof.
Not too difficult for anyone with their head not stuck up Johnsons lower colon. Which begs the thought that you are either too stupid to check something out first, or are desperate to defend your 'betters'.
That Johnson has been the recipient of large sums, begs the question of what the Russkies expected in return. A blind being turned towards imposing such orders on them, perhaps ? Or acting as a willing stooge for Putins attacks on the EU and Nato.
And the hypocrisy stretches to such scum as Farage. A man who was never shy about whining on endlessly about 'sivrentee, innit', yet bleats about sovereign countries joining organisations like the EU or NATO.
A cynic might suggest that Johnson and Farage were taking money to peddle lies and misinformation about the EU. Whether they took money for that purpose is a moot point. That they rook money, and that they did peddle lies and misinformation is known. It is whether there is any link......
........ however I am minded by the old saying, if it walks like a duck etc | | | |
| Wondering why they are dragging their heels ? on 17:30 - Mar 3 with 1516 views | You_Bloo_Right |
Point of order.
That's the soon to be Sir Gavin Williamson.
May I offer my condolences to any teachers on this thread. |  |
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| Wondering why they are dragging their heels ? on 17:39 - Mar 3 with 1494 views | Geomorph |
| Wondering why they are dragging their heels ? on 17:30 - Mar 3 by You_Bloo_Right |
Point of order.
That's the soon to be Sir Gavin Williamson.
May I offer my condolences to any teachers on this thread. |
ffs... yep the man who can't actually say 'the' or 'government' properly |  | | |
| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 18:19 - Mar 3 with 1433 views | blueislander |
| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 17:05 - Mar 3 by HARRY10 |
I would give up trying to defend your betters, as
"I stated that you would need to know the exact source of the income. "
More so when I suggested you read up on unexplained wealth orders
Which curiously when I searched on the internet, brought this up
"Unexplained Wealth Orders allow for the confiscation of property without proving criminality, by reversing the burden of proof.
Not too difficult for anyone with their head not stuck up Johnsons lower colon. Which begs the thought that you are either too stupid to check something out first, or are desperate to defend your 'betters'.
That Johnson has been the recipient of large sums, begs the question of what the Russkies expected in return. A blind being turned towards imposing such orders on them, perhaps ? Or acting as a willing stooge for Putins attacks on the EU and Nato.
And the hypocrisy stretches to such scum as Farage. A man who was never shy about whining on endlessly about 'sivrentee, innit', yet bleats about sovereign countries joining organisations like the EU or NATO.
A cynic might suggest that Johnson and Farage were taking money to peddle lies and misinformation about the EU. Whether they took money for that purpose is a moot point. That they rook money, and that they did peddle lies and misinformation is known. It is whether there is any link......
........ however I am minded by the old saying, if it walks like a duck etc |
There really is no need for the insults. In no way have I attempted to defend those people , I was merely suggesting a more nuanced view. By the way I am 73 years old , and have never voted Conservative. | | | |
| Wondering why they are dragging their heels ? on 18:47 - Mar 3 with 1381 views | Swansea_Blue |
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| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 18:53 - Mar 3 with 1366 views | HARRY10 |
| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 18:19 - Mar 3 by blueislander |
There really is no need for the insults. In no way have I attempted to defend those people , I was merely suggesting a more nuanced view. By the way I am 73 years old , and have never voted Conservative. |
So why put a view that seeks to defend them ?
Why did you have not check 'unexplained wealth orders', rather than persist with your flawed argument ?
Why twist the point to one of business and trade when it s about personal donations ?
All this just an oversight, we are supposed to believe ? [Post edited 3 Mar 2022 19:17]
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| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 19:01 - Mar 3 with 1351 views | blueislander |
| Wondering why they are dragging teir heels ? on 18:53 - Mar 3 by HARRY10 |
So why put a view that seeks to defend them ?
Why did you have not check 'unexplained wealth orders', rather than persist with your flawed argument ?
Why twist the point to one of business and trade when it s about personal donations ?
All this just an oversight, we are supposed to believe ? [Post edited 3 Mar 2022 19:17]
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Where do I seek to defend them. ? I made it abundantly clear that these sources of income should cease given the current circumstances. By the way I am well aware of “Unexplained Wealth Orders” I did not need to resort to the internet for this. I entirely agree that under the current circumstances our government should be acting much more quickly. There really was no need for the insults. Quite frankly you were just trying to get in cheap shots . | | | |
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