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Public sector strikes 08:23 - Jun 22 with 3474 viewsCrawfordsboot

I can’t help but feel that the rail strikes harp back to the days of Scargil where a militant leader of a key sector wants to grab as much as possible for his workers at an unacceptable cost for society (and other workers) as a whole.

I have limited sympathy for railway workers being a special case if they are on a reported average of £45k p.a. On the other hand I am sympathetic to nurses or teachers on £30k or £35k average, or indeed others on less than this. Given that resources are finite and that an element of current inflation is the one off energy impact why not award the public sector workers an increase calculated as the greater of £1,350 p.a. or 3%. This would be 4.5% or more for many teachers or health workers and for low paid rail support staff but be just 3% for the higher paid (45k+).

In addition to the above there is of course the one off energy support payments being made so that should be recognised on top of the £1,350.

A general strike in support of this sort of proposal I would support. I could not support a rail strike that would see already well paid union members benefit disproportionately to other less well off workers.
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Public sector strikes on 16:27 - Jun 22 with 590 viewsZXBlue

Public sector strikes on 16:15 - Jun 22 by meekreech

When they are being supported to the tune of £12 billion a year by the state they are public sector workers. When the price rises in fares are being used to pay ridiculous salaries it is clearly holding back the required improvements in efficiency. Outdated working practices also need to be done away with to access improvement in the future services being offered. It is surely time to realise that 18th century working conditions no longer exist and that unions should start to come back to reality and bring their attitudes up to date.


What, in particular, is an example of a union held old fashioned working practice which is currently blocking progress?
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Public sector strikes on 16:49 - Jun 22 with 553 viewsfactual_blue

Public sector strikes on 16:15 - Jun 22 by meekreech

When they are being supported to the tune of £12 billion a year by the state they are public sector workers. When the price rises in fares are being used to pay ridiculous salaries it is clearly holding back the required improvements in efficiency. Outdated working practices also need to be done away with to access improvement in the future services being offered. It is surely time to realise that 18th century working conditions no longer exist and that unions should start to come back to reality and bring their attitudes up to date.


What are the improvements in efficiency?

What are the outdated working practices?

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Public sector strikes on 16:58 - Jun 22 with 546 viewsSwansea_Blue

Public sector strikes on 11:30 - Jun 22 by Guthrum

Should also be remembered that it was only a few months ago this same Government was touting the benefits of a high-wage economy.


They are thinking of lifting the limits on bankers' bonuses!

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Public sector strikes on 19:16 - Jun 22 with 513 viewsHARRY10

Public sector strikes on 16:15 - Jun 22 by meekreech

When they are being supported to the tune of £12 billion a year by the state they are public sector workers. When the price rises in fares are being used to pay ridiculous salaries it is clearly holding back the required improvements in efficiency. Outdated working practices also need to be done away with to access improvement in the future services being offered. It is surely time to realise that 18th century working conditions no longer exist and that unions should start to come back to reality and bring their attitudes up to date.


! doubt even you believe that old sh.ite

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Public sector strikes on 19:31 - Jun 22 with 501 viewssolomon

Public sector strikes on 09:18 - Jun 22 by meekreech

It is time for strike action by public sector workers to be made illegal. As things are at present workers and companies are being made to suffer losses by the few. The leaders of the most militant unions are amongst the most highly paid, most being paid more than ministers in the government. It is surely time that the striking unions are going to be sued for damages in the private sector. The most obvious solution to this situation is for strikes by public sector unions to be made illegal. The railways should be making greater strides in technology ( which already exists) changes towards running driverless trains.


I don’t know why but when reading this I had the image of Harry Enfields Tory boy in my head. Uncanny stuff.
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Public sector strikes on 19:43 - Jun 22 with 492 viewsnoggin

Public sector strikes on 19:31 - Jun 22 by solomon

I don’t know why but when reading this I had the image of Harry Enfields Tory boy in my head. Uncanny stuff.


I was thinking "What a knob"

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Public sector strikes on 19:45 - Jun 22 with 488 viewsnoggin

Public sector strikes on 16:27 - Jun 22 by ZXBlue

What, in particular, is an example of a union held old fashioned working practice which is currently blocking progress?


He doesn't know but Grant Shapps said it so....

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Public sector strikes on 19:46 - Jun 22 with 486 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Prepare to hear from rail workers bemoaning cancelled operations when the nurses go on strike. It's just how it works!

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Public sector strikes on 19:49 - Jun 22 with 482 viewsnoggin

Public sector strikes on 19:46 - Jun 22 by BanksterDebtSlave

Prepare to hear from rail workers bemoaning cancelled operations when the nurses go on strike. It's just how it works!


My mate Barry knows a nurse who's on 82 grand. Why would they go on strike?

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Public sector strikes on 20:57 - Jun 22 with 442 viewsmeekreech

Public sector strikes on 16:27 - Jun 22 by ZXBlue

What, in particular, is an example of a union held old fashioned working practice which is currently blocking progress?


As reported by railway officials they are unable to roster individuals to attend repairs, they have to send multiple workers. If the repair is over a set distance from their area they are not allowed to attend and others have to be used. These rules have been set by the union and any attempt to address the situation is being used to foment unrest. These are some of the problems faced by the companies in trying to improve efficiency but they will never succeed until unions are held accountable for their actions.

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Public sector strikes on 21:01 - Jun 22 with 426 viewsZXBlue

Public sector strikes on 20:57 - Jun 22 by meekreech

As reported by railway officials they are unable to roster individuals to attend repairs, they have to send multiple workers. If the repair is over a set distance from their area they are not allowed to attend and others have to be used. These rules have been set by the union and any attempt to address the situation is being used to foment unrest. These are some of the problems faced by the companies in trying to improve efficiency but they will never succeed until unions are held accountable for their actions.


Hardly fundamental to the profitable running of the system, even if accurate. Unfortunately, I doubt that it is entirely accurate.
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Public sector strikes on 21:45 - Jun 22 with 412 viewsHARRY10

Public sector strikes on 20:57 - Jun 22 by meekreech

As reported by railway officials they are unable to roster individuals to attend repairs, they have to send multiple workers. If the repair is over a set distance from their area they are not allowed to attend and others have to be used. These rules have been set by the union and any attempt to address the situation is being used to foment unrest. These are some of the problems faced by the companies in trying to improve efficiency but they will never succeed until unions are held accountable for their actions.


"these are some"

which suggests there are others, many more it would seem

so I am sure our young cap doffer will furnish us with a link, if not verifiable examples/evidence
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