| It comes to something 10:50 - Jul 11 with 1175 views | mylittletown |
It comes to something when Jeremy Hunt looks like the most capable candidate for PM.
He is a hopeless t0sser, but that gives him a big lead over all the other candidates.
Trouble is, even if they found a decent candidate, and it would have to someone I have never heard of, how the hell are they going to govern, when their cabinet is almost bound to be full of talentless dishonest numpties?
The Tories have plummeted from a not very high place over the last 6 years. |  | | |  |
| It comes to something on 11:04 - Jul 11 with 1127 views | STYG |
Great aren't they.
Suella is proving how appaling a human she is. Zahawi has said he will publish his tax returns if he is PM, moving forward, but won't disclose any past ones (no alarm bells there then), Sunak keeps suggesting he will become PM and fix the thing he's been in charge of for three years, whilst videos keep emerging of him in his 20's where he laughs off the idea that he knows a working class person and even one of the best of the worst, Morduant, releases a video with Pistorius in that speaks of never having known a minority outside the elite in her life. |  | | |
| It comes to something on 11:04 - Jul 11 with 1125 views | ElephantintheRoom |
I’m not so sure. He’s served under two PMs and refused to work with Johnson - that puts him way ahead of all the other contenders in terms of experience and credibility
He’s also sat smugly on the health committee chair AND written a book on how he’d sort out the NHS - thus showing he’s the type of double-dealing hypocrite Conservative party members adore. Add with the skeletons rattling in one or two closets he’s almost a shoe in.
I’m half expecting all except two to drop out in the next few days/weeks ‘for the good of the country’. Most can’t stand Sunak - so they’ll eventually back Hunt.
Given the choice between a tax-dodging green card holder and ‘a safe pair of hands’ this will only go one way. I’ll be surprised if it gets as fas as the blue rinse brigade | |
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| It comes to something on 11:23 - Jul 11 with 1069 views | Pinewoodblue |
| It comes to something on 11:04 - Jul 11 by ElephantintheRoom |
I’m not so sure. He’s served under two PMs and refused to work with Johnson - that puts him way ahead of all the other contenders in terms of experience and credibility
He’s also sat smugly on the health committee chair AND written a book on how he’d sort out the NHS - thus showing he’s the type of double-dealing hypocrite Conservative party members adore. Add with the skeletons rattling in one or two closets he’s almost a shoe in.
I’m half expecting all except two to drop out in the next few days/weeks ‘for the good of the country’. Most can’t stand Sunak - so they’ll eventually back Hunt.
Given the choice between a tax-dodging green card holder and ‘a safe pair of hands’ this will only go one way. I’ll be surprised if it gets as fas as the blue rinse brigade |
At the end of the day your so called blue rinse brigade will make the final choice and no matter who he is up against Hunt would come second. No way will they see someone who stuffed the NHS as a safe option.
Like your idea that it will be resolved without party members getting a say but doubt very much that all ELEVEN of those who have put their name forward would step aside for a compromise candidate.
Do you think Ben Wallace, who has ruled himself out, could still be in the final reckoning? |  |
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| It comes to something on 12:29 - Jul 11 with 994 views | mylittletown |
| It comes to something on 11:23 - Jul 11 by Pinewoodblue |
At the end of the day your so called blue rinse brigade will make the final choice and no matter who he is up against Hunt would come second. No way will they see someone who stuffed the NHS as a safe option.
Like your idea that it will be resolved without party members getting a say but doubt very much that all ELEVEN of those who have put their name forward would step aside for a compromise candidate.
Do you think Ben Wallace, who has ruled himself out, could still be in the final reckoning? |
I can't help thinking that Ben Wallace must have a really grisly skeleton in his cupboard.
It did occur to me that the PM can be a member of the house of Lord's, so perhaps Ian Botham could put himself forward? A fine intellect with a keen grasp of economic policy, and he was very good when we were in the brown stuff.
(He might claim not be a Tory though?) | | | |
| It comes to something on 16:21 - Jul 11 with 906 views | EastTownBlue |
For anyone with such thoughts Jeremy Hunt has Esther McVey lined up as his deputy to provide a bit of balance. | | | |
| It comes to something on 16:25 - Jul 11 with 897 views | ElderGrizzly |
He wants to appoint Esther McVey as his Deputy.
All semblance of credibility (if there was any) went right there |  | | |
| It comes to something on 16:28 - Jul 11 with 894 views | Churchman |
| It comes to something on 12:29 - Jul 11 by mylittletown |
I can't help thinking that Ben Wallace must have a really grisly skeleton in his cupboard.
It did occur to me that the PM can be a member of the house of Lord's, so perhaps Ian Botham could put himself forward? A fine intellect with a keen grasp of economic policy, and he was very good when we were in the brown stuff.
(He might claim not be a Tory though?) |
He wouldn’t be the first tory to be covered in the brown stuff.
I actually think he’s not dumb enough to take the job. The idiot that gets the job will have it for a max 2 years before being thrown out. He can rock in when they’re down to 150 seats, enjoy the comfort of opposition and all the perks that go with it. What’s not to like?
But yes, we can assume Wallace has something he wants to hide (they all do) and he really ought to be harried until he fesses up if he’s to remain a minister. |  | | |
| It comes to something on 16:39 - Jul 11 with 877 views | giant_stow |
| It comes to something on 12:29 - Jul 11 by mylittletown |
I can't help thinking that Ben Wallace must have a really grisly skeleton in his cupboard.
It did occur to me that the PM can be a member of the house of Lord's, so perhaps Ian Botham could put himself forward? A fine intellect with a keen grasp of economic policy, and he was very good when we were in the brown stuff.
(He might claim not be a Tory though?) |
I read a throw-away comment in the Newsletter about if Wallace stood, he 'could kiss his cabinet career away' from an unnamed source. Maybe he's just factionally not right for some reason and got the message? [Post edited 11 Jul 2022 16:39]
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| It comes to something on 16:50 - Jul 11 with 860 views | IpswichKnight |
Tom Tugendhat is showing as the 3rd most backed MP ( by declared backers whips and ministers are unlikely to come out publicly), he’s ahead of Hunt and isn’t tainted with being in Government added bonus the Russians and Chinese properly hate him too. | | | |
| It comes to something on 17:01 - Jul 11 with 846 views | HARRY10 |
What it is more noticeable is those Tories, who are not involved in what at best could only be described as Wacky Races for the deluded.
Those are the wise heads who know it's going to be an almost impossible job to clear up the mess Johnson has caused, and so would be out in a year or so, were they to be associated with this current ragbag of failures.
Fed on a diet of stupidity and bigotry, there are enough party members to vote in anyone who promises to deliver on that ignorance (see Johnson 2019, levelling up, British fish, no NI increase, they need us etc).
There's nothing like a bit more of what has put them on less than 30% in the polls, to whittle that number down even further. I expect we will hear the bleat 'fighting for the soul of the party', and all manner of other witless guff this coming autumn as the swivel eyed try to deny, what they have always denied, reality.
Meanwhile keep an eye on Zahawi, as
"In 1991, he was involved in a highly controversial project by Conservative politician Jeffrey Archer to raise money for Kurdish refugees through a music concert called Simple Truth. Archer - who nicknamed Zahawi "Lemon Kurd" - claimed that £57m was raised through the project, but refugee groups claimed they saw very little of the money."
I expect that will be raised in the coming days/weeks | | | |
| It comes to something on 17:24 - Jul 11 with 798 views | ElephantintheRoom |
| It comes to something on 11:23 - Jul 11 by Pinewoodblue |
At the end of the day your so called blue rinse brigade will make the final choice and no matter who he is up against Hunt would come second. No way will they see someone who stuffed the NHS as a safe option.
Like your idea that it will be resolved without party members getting a say but doubt very much that all ELEVEN of those who have put their name forward would step aside for a compromise candidate.
Do you think Ben Wallace, who has ruled himself out, could still be in the final reckoning? |
Personally I think Wallace is a bit nice but dim. I’d give him considerable credit though for not getting involved in the wacky races - but he’s trashed his credibility by backing Grant Schapps.
You have to bear in mind that virtually all the candidates are posturing - perhaps 3 or 4 think they can win and the only real contest is to find a credible alternative to Sunak. That really has to be someone outside the current cast of extremist cabinet sycophants. All that’s at stake really is horse trading for jobs in the new cabinet. I’ll be very surprised if it goes to the nut jobs in the Conservative Party - they’ll back Truss or Patel. So a compromise is needed to keep Sunak out | |
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