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Vicious circle 13:55 - Jul 18 with 2750 viewsSitfcB

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So people are saying this heat we’ve been getting is due to climate change but wonder how many cars, vans, lorries etc have been running all day to power the aircon?!

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Vicious circle on 15:08 - Jul 18 with 692 viewsjeera

Vicious circle on 15:07 - Jul 18 by SitfcB

New build houses don’t even have proper gardens these days.


That's not surprising.

You can't even say you're English these days.

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Vicious circle on 15:15 - Jul 18 with 662 viewsSitfcB

Vicious circle on 15:08 - Jul 18 by jeera

That's not surprising.

You can't even say you're English these days.


Bloody snowflakes….oooo snowflakes, could do with some of those today.

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Vicious circle on 15:25 - Jul 18 with 647 viewshomer_123

Just take a look at what happened when flights virtually stopped during Covid.

There will be those that say we cannot do without planes, trains and automobiles and, the current way we live our lives, they maybe correct.

So, two choices, we keep on trucking or we don't.

If we leave it in the hands of business it will only go one way.....the way we are headed.

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Vicious circle on 15:30 - Jul 18 with 623 viewslowhouseblue

Vicious circle on 15:25 - Jul 18 by homer_123

Just take a look at what happened when flights virtually stopped during Covid.

There will be those that say we cannot do without planes, trains and automobiles and, the current way we live our lives, they maybe correct.

So, two choices, we keep on trucking or we don't.

If we leave it in the hands of business it will only go one way.....the way we are headed.


business only produce stuff people want to buy. otherwise they go bust. they make stuff cheaply cos we want to buy it cheaply. an awful lot of this is down to us as consumers.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Vicious circle on 15:34 - Jul 18 with 600 viewshomer_123

Vicious circle on 15:30 - Jul 18 by lowhouseblue

business only produce stuff people want to buy. otherwise they go bust. they make stuff cheaply cos we want to buy it cheaply. an awful lot of this is down to us as consumers.


Yes, consumerism has a part to play, the 'I want it now and as cheaply as possibly.' for sure.

But remember, that consumerism is driven by businesses that make credit easy to obtain....for pretty much anyone.

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Vicious circle on 15:37 - Jul 18 with 580 viewsDanTheMan

Vicious circle on 15:30 - Jul 18 by lowhouseblue

business only produce stuff people want to buy. otherwise they go bust. they make stuff cheaply cos we want to buy it cheaply. an awful lot of this is down to us as consumers.


That's only partly true when those same businesses can lobby extremely well to avoid having to do anything about it.

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Vicious circle on 15:44 - Jul 18 with 549 viewsEireannach_gorm

Vicious circle on 14:12 - Jul 18 by Ewan_Oozami

Good point Sitters, indeed I myself have been running my car in the drive all day with the aircon set to max with a high power air pump attached to an HVAC duct which runs from the car to my house....


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Vicious circle on 15:45 - Jul 18 with 544 viewssolomon

Vicious circle on 14:55 - Jul 18 by SitfcB

Yes, and?


One assumes you feel aggrieved that vehicles a running all day to combat the heat (a result of climate change they directly contributed to) and therefore the fight to save our planet is futile and we should just party on? Genuinely interested in your view on climate change.
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Vicious circle on 17:07 - Jul 18 with 498 viewsCoachRob

Vicious circle on 14:52 - Jul 18 by lowhouseblue

partly then a question of avoiding it accumulating heat in the first place - shading, flushing cold air through etc. but thermal mass can also make the inside temperature lag a long way behind the external temperature - which should stabilise the internal temp at an acceptable level. i've been involved as the client in the design of accommodation and most recently went for a concrete frame structure (which is counter intuitive because of the embodied energy) cos when we modelled the likely summer temperatures at the end of the century the thermal mass of concrete meant that the building would be much better in terms of passive cooling. light weight highly insulated structure seem to do much less well with passive cooling.


"when we modelled the likely summer temperatures at the end of the century"

How did you do this and what were the conclusions?
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Vicious circle on 17:16 - Jul 18 with 479 viewsBig_Jase

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Vicious circle on 18:06 - Jul 18 with 435 viewsEwan_Oozami

Vicious circle on 15:44 - Jul 18 by Eireannach_gorm



An obvious patent infringment - I will be consulting my solicitor...

You are the obsolete SRN4 to my Fairey Rotodyne....
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Vicious circle on 20:57 - Jul 18 with 376 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Vicious circle on 14:27 - Jul 18 by DanTheMan

Gonna be fun to make houses both very good at insulating heat for the more extreme winters and then very good and not insulating it for the hot summers.

We are badly prepared, but we didn't have to be if people had heeded decades worth of warnings.

I'm not sure I could really have a good at people for putting any cooling mechanism into their home to make it livable. What we really should have been doing is getting our national grid running on green(er) energy, then it wouldn't be such an issue.

What a mess eh?


To be fair, the insulation aspect works very well both ways (although there are some issues with trapping versus repelling heat). I love the idea that we might have solar-powered aircon. Ground source heat pumps seem a very sensible idea too.

However, the biggest issue is far less with design and build of new property as with improving older properties.

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Vicious circle on 21:00 - Jul 18 with 365 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Vicious circle on 15:34 - Jul 18 by homer_123

Yes, consumerism has a part to play, the 'I want it now and as cheaply as possibly.' for sure.

But remember, that consumerism is driven by businesses that make credit easy to obtain....for pretty much anyone.


You seem to have identified the real vicious circle.

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