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Sunak says too much power given to scientists during Covid. 20:44 - Aug 25 with 2950 viewshomer_123

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62664537

Who needs 'experts' when we have the Tories to look after us. After all...they always have the publics interest at heart.

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Sunak says too much power given to scientists during Covid. on 10:40 - Aug 26 with 522 viewsBlueBadger

Sunak says too much power given to scientists during Covid. on 23:13 - Aug 25 by Oldsmoker

But no-one in the UK has threatened to throw Professor Chris Whitty across the Thames.
Ron Desantis is just being Macho when he threatens Fauci with throwing him over the Potomac river.
Our govt. style was to party while people died without their loved ones close.


They prefer the slightly subtler incitements to violence.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/boris-johnson-keir-starmer-jimm

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/lawyers-at-risk-of-physical-attack-after-patel

I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
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Sunak says too much power given to scientists during Covid. on 13:12 - Aug 26 with 493 viewsmonytowbray

As opposed to who?! A load of upper class c**ts born into money who’ve never done an honest day’s work in their life and chop/change between cabinet roles based on f**k all expertise every 5 minutes?

I’m an expert in transport. Oh wait now I’m an expert in health. No wait it’s education. Media and Sport? I can’t remember anymore, what’s my job again?

When society and the government of a capitalist nation start to demean public faith in science the system is over. End game. What are the super rich actually innovating whilst intellectual mobility dies a death?

The West and the Soviets had a decades long cold war over science and engineering.

The reason China is soon to become the leading economic nation is because they have scientists/engineers making decisions that then get implemented.

Our government decide to not listen to scientists/experts, f**k everything up (literally what happened in 2020, called it at the time and was hounded off the board by several disingenuous and/or gammon posters) and now they want to rewrite recent history. Nah, can’t let it happen.

They didn’t even bother having the means in place to deal with a pandemic before it started, despite government being LITERALLY told exactly what to buy (ignored for cheaper stock in lower volume) in the face of the most likely health crisis risk we faced. Think back to care home workers camping outside and hospital workers without PPE.

When they then realised they had f**ked it, they doubled down on not locking down for almost 2 weeks (most other nations had and smarter folk were already indoors), left us in the lurch for financial survival for almost a week and slowly U-turned it to pretend they hadn’t triggered the catalyst of forthcoming needless deaths. This happened. Unde-f**king-nialable.

When they then realised they had to rush to get equipment, they decided it was a good time to stop tendering contracts and give their mates with no experience in manufacturing needed products a massive bung of public money, under the guise of emergency measures to get away with it.

Honestly, how f**king hard do the people still finding a grey area of whatteraboutery in recent history need a shake? Let alone anyone still voting and supporting it. You saw it with your own eyes.

I’d rather give the scientists the keys to this nation, than the wannabe despot c**ts we have now.

*No apology for language, whole thing is a piss boiling affair*

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Sunak says too much power given to scientists during Covid. on 15:24 - Aug 26 with 432 viewsjaykay

has this thread been doctored ? glanced at it last night ,came back to look at it today and looks like several posts missing.

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Sunak says too much power given to scientists during Covid. on 15:24 - Aug 26 with 430 viewsjeera

Sunak says too much power given to scientists during Covid. on 09:23 - Aug 26 by Swansea_Blue

Dithering happened at the start of every wave didn't it. And then the schools fiasco too. Plius pushing infected people into care homes who were carriers and having a wave sweep through our most vulnerable people. Scientists were speaking up against this behaviour all the time.

Some things were obviously a learning exercise for everyone, but there was a lot wrong that was being pointed out at the time.


Exactly. Hindsight my @rse.

It's not flipping hindsight when people were shouting it at the sodding time.

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Sunak says too much power given to scientists during Covid. on 15:42 - Aug 26 with 420 viewsitfcjoe

Lockdown is going to be like the Iraq War soon, despite 80% of people being in favour of it no one will admit that in a few years time

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Sunak says too much power given to scientists during Covid. on 15:54 - Aug 26 with 390 viewsStokieBlue

Sunak says too much power given to scientists during Covid. on 15:42 - Aug 26 by itfcjoe

Lockdown is going to be like the Iraq War soon, despite 80% of people being in favour of it no one will admit that in a few years time


Will you be saying you weren't in favour the initial lockdown in a few years time?

I certainly won't be. It was the correct thing to do given the context at the time and that context will never change. Hindsight might provide more information but within the context that makes no difference and thus shouldn't sway ones opinion but instead shape future opinions should it be required again.

SB

SB - (not Simon Batford)

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Sunak says too much power given to scientists during Covid. on 16:13 - Aug 26 with 371 viewsitfcjoe

Sunak says too much power given to scientists during Covid. on 15:54 - Aug 26 by StokieBlue

Will you be saying you weren't in favour the initial lockdown in a few years time?

I certainly won't be. It was the correct thing to do given the context at the time and that context will never change. Hindsight might provide more information but within the context that makes no difference and thus shouldn't sway ones opinion but instead shape future opinions should it be required again.

SB


I won't be, was talking more about the ruling classes though - I made my views quite clear at the time and thought we were too late at nearly every stage of it and they are on record now (TWTD rather than Hansard....)

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Sunak says too much power given to scientists during Covid. on 16:45 - Aug 26 with 348 viewsSteve_M

Sunak says too much power given to scientists during Covid. on 16:13 - Aug 26 by itfcjoe

I won't be, was talking more about the ruling classes though - I made my views quite clear at the time and thought we were too late at nearly every stage of it and they are on record now (TWTD rather than Hansard....)


Clearly large parts of the Tory membership have made that switch in viewpoint judging by how Sunak and Truss are talking.

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