The Championship 07:45 - Sep 16 with 2204 views | tractorboy1978 | Early days this season I know, but it really isn't the kind of step up many seem to think it is. All of last season's promoted clubs sitting in the top 12 (Sunderland 6th, Rotherham 9th and Wigan 11th) with minimal squad churn. |  | | |  |
The Championship on 08:58 - Sep 16 with 2030 views | SomethingBlue | This season and last it's looked quite a tired division. We need to get there first but if we did I'm sure we would consolidate at worst. |  |
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The Championship on 09:00 - Sep 16 with 2009 views | BiGDonnie | I regularly look at the starting line ups and ignoring Sheffield United and the scummers I don't see much of a step up to what we have. |  |
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The Championship on 09:00 - Sep 16 with 2004 views | MattinLondon | The championship is probably the most exciting division in the league set-up. Three wins in a row could see a team move from being relegation threatened to being in the playoffs. |  | |  |
The Championship on 09:22 - Sep 16 with 1935 views | ParisBlue | Parachute teams aside there isn't a lot of money in the Championship now. Good well coached teams have shown they can do well, Huddersfield, Luton last year, Barnsley the year before. |  |
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The Championship on 09:32 - Sep 16 with 1904 views | clive_baker | I think the standard is far higher in terms of the floor, the worst sides in the Championship would all be very decent sides in L1. There's a greater discrepancy in quality in L1 between the top 1/3 and bottom 1/3. Certainly last season which explained why the points tally to make the playoffs was so high, and wouldn't be surprised if it was again. There's some very poor (and smaller) sides in L1. Its evident in attendances too, to have us and Sheff Wed, Drby etc getting 25k and those at the bottom getting 10% of that. There's more consistent quality in the Championship. 3rd v 3rd bottom is Blackburn vs. Swansea and 4th v 4th bottom is Reading vs. Boro. You wouldn't want to call those games particularly. 5th v 5th bottom Burnley vs. West Brom. Etc. It's early days but throughout the league there's a big chunk of sides all with good quality, if not great. |  |
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The Championship on 09:36 - Sep 16 with 1858 views | Metal_Hacker |
The Championship on 09:32 - Sep 16 by clive_baker | I think the standard is far higher in terms of the floor, the worst sides in the Championship would all be very decent sides in L1. There's a greater discrepancy in quality in L1 between the top 1/3 and bottom 1/3. Certainly last season which explained why the points tally to make the playoffs was so high, and wouldn't be surprised if it was again. There's some very poor (and smaller) sides in L1. Its evident in attendances too, to have us and Sheff Wed, Drby etc getting 25k and those at the bottom getting 10% of that. There's more consistent quality in the Championship. 3rd v 3rd bottom is Blackburn vs. Swansea and 4th v 4th bottom is Reading vs. Boro. You wouldn't want to call those games particularly. 5th v 5th bottom Burnley vs. West Brom. Etc. It's early days but throughout the league there's a big chunk of sides all with good quality, if not great. |
Exactly this well done CB I started to type this out re-read what I'd typed and it didn't make sense how you've described it but yes .... this Essentially there are 2-3 leagues in all Leagues through-out so there will always be massive voids in quality good and bad |  |
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The Championship on 09:47 - Sep 16 with 1805 views | CityBlue | the problem for "big clubs" in L1 is that the minnows treat it like a cup final....so if they are up for it then it becomes very difficult to break teams down. The answer is to start out of the blocks and look for the early goal. |  |
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The Championship on 09:48 - Sep 16 with 1796 views | bournemouthblue | The biggest difference I have noticed whilst being in League One is finishing Sides often need 3 or 4 guilt edged chances before putting them away, you can make mistakes and fail to be punished |  |
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The Championship on 13:27 - Sep 16 with 1474 views | tractorboy1978 |
The Championship on 09:32 - Sep 16 by clive_baker | I think the standard is far higher in terms of the floor, the worst sides in the Championship would all be very decent sides in L1. There's a greater discrepancy in quality in L1 between the top 1/3 and bottom 1/3. Certainly last season which explained why the points tally to make the playoffs was so high, and wouldn't be surprised if it was again. There's some very poor (and smaller) sides in L1. Its evident in attendances too, to have us and Sheff Wed, Drby etc getting 25k and those at the bottom getting 10% of that. There's more consistent quality in the Championship. 3rd v 3rd bottom is Blackburn vs. Swansea and 4th v 4th bottom is Reading vs. Boro. You wouldn't want to call those games particularly. 5th v 5th bottom Burnley vs. West Brom. Etc. It's early days but throughout the league there's a big chunk of sides all with good quality, if not great. |
There's not much at all between the best sides in L1 and most of the Championship right now. Any promoted side could just as easily finish 6th or 22nd. You haven't got any guff in the league but similarly there aren't many top sides. |  | |  |
The Championship on 13:52 - Sep 16 with 1408 views | clive_baker |
The Championship on 13:27 - Sep 16 by tractorboy1978 | There's not much at all between the best sides in L1 and most of the Championship right now. Any promoted side could just as easily finish 6th or 22nd. You haven't got any guff in the league but similarly there aren't many top sides. |
Yeah that's what I was trying to say. The gap between best and worst is narrow anyway in the Championship, and if you took out say the top 2 and bottom 2 it's ridiculously narrow. So much so that you could probably turn those remaining 20 upside down and it wouldn't look out of place. Where as L1 is really a division of the have's and have nots. |  |
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The Championship on 16:16 - Sep 16 with 1183 views | IPS_wich |
The Championship on 13:27 - Sep 16 by tractorboy1978 | There's not much at all between the best sides in L1 and most of the Championship right now. Any promoted side could just as easily finish 6th or 22nd. You haven't got any guff in the league but similarly there aren't many top sides. |
Not sure I agree. I watched some of the Reading vs Sunderland game on Wednesday and thought the pace, pressure and general skill level was a significant step up from what we produced on Tuesday. |  | |  |
The Championship on 16:48 - Sep 16 with 1082 views | Radlett_blue | Early days. The facts over the last 4 completed seasons would indicate that the gap between League 1 & the Championship is quite wide. Of the 12 clubs promoted over the previous 4 seasons, 5 have made an immediate return to League 1 - nearly 50%. ALL the others finished in the bottom half in their first season back up. The average finishing position of the promoted clubs in their first season back is 19th. So, if we do go up, McKenna will be doing well if we finish in mid table. [Post edited 16 Sep 2022 17:26]
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The Championship on 17:15 - Sep 16 with 1006 views | tractorboy1978 |
The Championship on 16:16 - Sep 16 by IPS_wich | Not sure I agree. I watched some of the Reading vs Sunderland game on Wednesday and thought the pace, pressure and general skill level was a significant step up from what we produced on Tuesday. |
That's more or less the same Sunderland side we drew with and should have beaten at PR last season. They've undoubtedly improved but so have we. The tweaks required to go from top end L1 side to top half Championship side aren't very big in my opinion. It basically comes down to a couple of extra decent additions and being well coached/organised/having a good manager. Huddersfield are the perfect example of minor tweaks/change of coach being the difference between the play offs and relegation candidates. And Barnsley the season before that. |  | |  |
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