| The Big Freeze 21:18 - Dec 7 with 3468 views | Oldsmoker |
Chris Packham introducing a doc on BBC4 about the winter of 1963.
I remember it. The river Cam was frozen at Ely.
He told us to "snuggle up in our centrally heating homes and enjoy...."
That's a bit insensitive considering there's some who can't afford to put the heating on.
Typical lefty BBC - and I'm sure the Daily Fail will gaslight Packham and the BBC to deflect from their Capitalist friends who are squeezing the poor and vulnerable at this time.
But we all want a white Xmas don't we?
We shouldn't let a load of frozen dead people get in the way of scenes of middle-class kids tobogganing down snowy park slopes.
Sorry for the rant but I'm living from one pay-check to the next and EDF just sucked a big wedge of it this morning.
Happy Xmas to you all.
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| The Big Freeze on 22:21 - Dec 7 with 2641 views | WeWereZombies |
Sympathies, and it is not so easy these days to retreat to a pub nursing half a pint for two hours or so whilst copping their heating, is it ? We also used to nick a half used toilet roll or two from the pub bogs in the evening or two before pay day, taking it in turns each week to make it less obvious who might have been there before someone shouted out to the bar that there was no loo roll... |  |
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| The Big Freeze on 22:25 - Dec 7 with 2629 views | Ryorry |
The old film was wrong about that back then too - not many people had CH at the time, and the narrator's comment about phones being a lifeline in '63 was also misleading - again, many homes didn't have phones till much later. |  |
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| The Big Freeze on 22:25 - Dec 7 with 2628 views | Tonytown |
At least you can be happy knowing that you’re subsidising the French peoples small power bill rise, thanks to the caring sharing Tories.
caring only about them & their corrupt mates
sharing our money with their corrupt mates |  | | |
| The Big Freeze on 22:42 - Dec 7 with 2596 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Cheer up, Mrs Torywife did sport a fantastic pair of woolly black pants over her fishnet stockings. |  |
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| The Big Freeze on 05:35 - Dec 8 with 2457 views | Oldsmoker |
Thanks for your words of support peeps.
My brother, after calling me a daft sod, said he had my back and would support me with handouts if necessary.
I'm going to sell the car and get a free bus-pass.
That will solve my cash-flow problem for this winter. | |
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| The Big Freeze on 08:47 - Dec 8 with 2367 views | Guthrum |
My mother remembers people skating on the Cam that winter. She was living in a little bedsit off Mill Road in Cambridge at the time - also with no proper heating.
Sympathies on your situation. Hopefully the cold snap is brief, to at least ease the heating problem somewhat. |  |
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| The Big Freeze on 09:08 - Dec 8 with 2333 views | blueasfook |
That was a good program. Bit spoiled by Chris Packham at the end going on about birds. I am sure lots of British wildlife suffered during the winter of 1963, not just his avian friends.
I particularly liked the meteorological report from the time, when they said a "clever American" had linked the particularly cold spell that winter to unusual warming of the Pacific ocean off the coast of South America. What we later came to know as "El nino". |  |
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| The Big Freeze on 09:25 - Dec 8 with 2271 views | J2BLUE |
| The Big Freeze on 05:35 - Dec 8 by Oldsmoker |
Thanks for your words of support peeps.
My brother, after calling me a daft sod, said he had my back and would support me with handouts if necessary.
I'm going to sell the car and get a free bus-pass.
That will solve my cash-flow problem for this winter. |
Might be my own interpretation but handouts sounds really negative.
Absolutely everyone needs help at some point. Many people in a better position than you are only in a better position because they've already had some help. |  |
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| The Big Freeze on 09:27 - Dec 8 with 2269 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| The Big Freeze on 09:25 - Dec 8 by J2BLUE |
Might be my own interpretation but handouts sounds really negative.
Absolutely everyone needs help at some point. Many people in a better position than you are only in a better position because they've already had some help. |
Another good excuse to recommend this....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001fw45 | |
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| The Big Freeze on 09:30 - Dec 8 with 2246 views | DJR |
My sympathies are with the OP.
As regards the climate more generally, I remember being taught in Geography in the 1970s that we were heading towards the next ice age. Oh, how quickly things have changed.
The winter of 78/79 was also pretty cold, at least where I was at Leeds University. There was a sizeable amount of snow on the ground from early January to at least the end of March.
I am not sure we have had a particularly cold winter since then. |  | | |
| The Big Freeze on 09:41 - Dec 8 with 2209 views | hype313 |
My Dad's got a picture of himself and his mate standing in the middle of the Thames in 63.
Quite remarkable. |  |
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| The Big Freeze on 10:12 - Dec 8 with 2160 views | Ryorry |
Btw OldSmoker, every sympathy for your plight, but it's a bit harsh to blame Packham for his lack of empathy for the millions struggling in 2022 when the film was made in 2013 ...
I don't always pay full attention to TV docus, but did prick up my ears when hearing him say "it was 50 years ago now that ..." as I knew my age didn't match!
- confirmed by https://tvforum.uk/tvhome/big-freeze-1963-38951 | |
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| The Big Freeze on 10:17 - Dec 8 with 2151 views | Ryorry |
| The Big Freeze on 09:30 - Dec 8 by DJR |
My sympathies are with the OP.
As regards the climate more generally, I remember being taught in Geography in the 1970s that we were heading towards the next ice age. Oh, how quickly things have changed.
The winter of 78/79 was also pretty cold, at least where I was at Leeds University. There was a sizeable amount of snow on the ground from early January to at least the end of March.
I am not sure we have had a particularly cold winter since then. |
I was also living in Leeds at the time, Chapeltown & Chapel Allerton areas - if you drank at the Regent pub, or went to Newton or Hyde Park parties in the park with the good old reggae music booming out, we may have passed each other :) | |
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| The Big Freeze on 11:17 - Dec 8 with 2103 views | DJR |
| The Big Freeze on 10:17 - Dec 8 by Ryorry |
I was also living in Leeds at the time, Chapeltown & Chapel Allerton areas - if you drank at the Regent pub, or went to Newton or Hyde Park parties in the park with the good old reggae music booming out, we may have passed each other :) |
Small world. Yes, we may well have done. I lived to the north of the Headingly Road.
Also a great time for bands at the University and Poly: the Police and Dire Straits (before they were famous) as well as the Ramones, Clash, Jam and Specials. | | | |
| The Big Freeze on 11:40 - Dec 8 with 2068 views | urbanblue |
| The Big Freeze on 09:30 - Dec 8 by DJR |
My sympathies are with the OP.
As regards the climate more generally, I remember being taught in Geography in the 1970s that we were heading towards the next ice age. Oh, how quickly things have changed.
The winter of 78/79 was also pretty cold, at least where I was at Leeds University. There was a sizeable amount of snow on the ground from early January to at least the end of March.
I am not sure we have had a particularly cold winter since then. |
Yep, I left home in '78 and moved into a share house in Clacton with mates. The house was so cold the shower screen had a layer of ice and the water in the toilet froze over. It was great fun p155ing to melt it, though when the chain was pulled we just heard ice shattering.
We all sat round a fire in sleeping bags with a big pile of newspapers rolling up pages and throwing them in the fire.
I came home from the pub one night and found one of my housemates passed out in the snow in the doorway mullered. Think I saved his life ...
I remember that time being very happy days. Very easy when you have no responsibility and basically in one's youth don't give a toss about anything. |  | | |
| The Big Freeze on 11:46 - Dec 8 with 2052 views | Ryorry |
| The Big Freeze on 11:17 - Dec 8 by DJR |
Small world. Yes, we may well have done. I lived to the north of the Headingly Road.
Also a great time for bands at the University and Poly: the Police and Dire Straits (before they were famous) as well as the Ramones, Clash, Jam and Specials. |
You mean Headingley Lane, the A660? If so, hope you didn't have the same appalling landlord as I did in '76 when I briefly lived in a 2nd floor bedsit in Manor Terrace (off Richmond Ave, a few hundred yards from the Skyrack on the same side of the road). The damp was horrendous, & there was a hole in the floor made by mice, only the carpet saved you from falling through!
Btw, 2010 was an extremely severe winter here in Yorks - by that time I'd moved out to the Dales, & remember it feeling like the Alps - driving along lanes with 12 foot high walls of icy snow on either side that farmers had scooped out of the way so milk lorries could get through. | |
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| The Big Freeze on 13:00 - Dec 8 with 1995 views | DJR |
| The Big Freeze on 11:46 - Dec 8 by Ryorry |
You mean Headingley Lane, the A660? If so, hope you didn't have the same appalling landlord as I did in '76 when I briefly lived in a 2nd floor bedsit in Manor Terrace (off Richmond Ave, a few hundred yards from the Skyrack on the same side of the road). The damp was horrendous, & there was a hole in the floor made by mice, only the carpet saved you from falling through!
Btw, 2010 was an extremely severe winter here in Yorks - by that time I'd moved out to the Dales, & remember it feeling like the Alps - driving along lanes with 12 foot high walls of icy snow on either side that farmers had scooped out of the way so milk lorries could get through. |
Yep, I meant Headingly Lane. I lived in Devonshire Hall in Cumberland Road in my first year (78/79), which is pretty close to Manor Terrace. In my second and third years, I lived in a house-share in Delph Lane, slightly to the north of Woodhouse Moor. The house did have its resident mice, but apart from that wasn't too bad, and it had something that very few student house-shares seem to have these days, namely a lounge, which these days has been turned into a bedroom. There were also no such things as guarantors etc, and the very reasonable rent included all bills. [Post edited 8 Dec 2022 13:02]
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| The Big Freeze on 13:08 - Dec 8 with 1979 views | Ryorry |
| The Big Freeze on 13:00 - Dec 8 by DJR |
Yep, I meant Headingly Lane. I lived in Devonshire Hall in Cumberland Road in my first year (78/79), which is pretty close to Manor Terrace. In my second and third years, I lived in a house-share in Delph Lane, slightly to the north of Woodhouse Moor. The house did have its resident mice, but apart from that wasn't too bad, and it had something that very few student house-shares seem to have these days, namely a lounge, which these days has been turned into a bedroom. There were also no such things as guarantors etc, and the very reasonable rent included all bills. [Post edited 8 Dec 2022 13:02]
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Bloomin 'eck - Cumberland Rd, next door to Grove Rd where a very good mate, whose initials happen to also be DR! was living back then - and still is. If you were into theatre, you might know him. | |
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| The Big Freeze on 13:17 - Dec 8 with 1956 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| The Big Freeze on 13:08 - Dec 8 by Ryorry |
Bloomin 'eck - Cumberland Rd, next door to Grove Rd where a very good mate, whose initials happen to also be DR! was living back then - and still is. If you were into theatre, you might know him. |
Woodhouse was very popular with squatters in the mid 80's when I was there... including the lovely Chumbawambas. | |
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| The Big Freeze on 13:23 - Dec 8 with 1941 views | DJR |
| The Big Freeze on 13:08 - Dec 8 by Ryorry |
Bloomin 'eck - Cumberland Rd, next door to Grove Rd where a very good mate, whose initials happen to also be DR! was living back then - and still is. If you were into theatre, you might know him. |
Probably not as I wasn't into theatre. But I see from google maps that the Theatre of the Dales is based in (I assume you meant) Grosvenor Road. Perhaps that's run by your mate.
To complete the coincidences, my son is currently staying in student accommodation in North Hill Road, parallel to Cumberland Road, and is on the verge of signing up to accommodation next year in Hyde Park. | | | |
| The Big Freeze on 13:38 - Dec 8 with 1928 views | DJR |
| The Big Freeze on 13:17 - Dec 8 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Woodhouse was very popular with squatters in the mid 80's when I was there... including the lovely Chumbawambas. |
That's interesting. I am not sure if squatting was about when I was there. But one thing that was about was the admirable Reclaim the Night movement which sought to make the streets a safer place for women. It had its origins in the Chapeltown, Woodhouse and Hyde Park areas where many feminists lived. | | | |
| The Big Freeze on 15:20 - Dec 8 with 1864 views | Ryorry |
| The Big Freeze on 13:23 - Dec 8 by DJR |
Probably not as I wasn't into theatre. But I see from google maps that the Theatre of the Dales is based in (I assume you meant) Grosvenor Road. Perhaps that's run by your mate.
To complete the coincidences, my son is currently staying in student accommodation in North Hill Road, parallel to Cumberland Road, and is on the verge of signing up to accommodation next year in Hyde Park. |
Yep, Grosvenor Rd, soz, & Theatre of the Dales :) Fantastic outfit.
I do remember North Hill Road too. Love Hyde Park, there used to be a superb handmade shoes shop there, got some brightly coloured sandals from them - twtd ... [Post edited 8 Dec 2022 15:20]
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| The Big Freeze on 15:36 - Dec 8 with 1851 views | DJR |
| The Big Freeze on 15:20 - Dec 8 by Ryorry |
Yep, Grosvenor Rd, soz, & Theatre of the Dales :) Fantastic outfit.
I do remember North Hill Road too. Love Hyde Park, there used to be a superb handmade shoes shop there, got some brightly coloured sandals from them - twtd ... [Post edited 8 Dec 2022 15:20]
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Yes, great memories, and one of the reasons I have a bit of a soft spot for Leeds United. | | | |
| The Big Freeze on 15:37 - Dec 8 with 1849 views | giant_stow |
| The Big Freeze on 09:25 - Dec 8 by J2BLUE |
Might be my own interpretation but handouts sounds really negative.
Absolutely everyone needs help at some point. Many people in a better position than you are only in a better position because they've already had some help. |
Bang on J2 - I've certainly accepted help before. I understand it knocks the pride a bit, but the receiver should always put themselves in the shoes of the giver: would you see your loved one go cold if you could help? |  |
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