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McKenna first season …. 17:49 - Feb 15 with 6694 viewsArnieM

Whilst we’re all disappointed with how the team have fallen away yet again, I think we need to try and stand back a little and see the whole picture (as cliched as that sounds).

The fact is whilst McKenna is a highly rated coach, he is a completely novice manager, in his first ever managerial job at any level. He’s on a hugely steep, learning “ curve”, in his first job in the 3rd tier of the game, a level of football he also has absolutely NO experience of.

So why are we expecting him to come into a big club like ours, and hit the ground running with a
(practically), brand new squad, and gain promotion at the first attempt? A tall order for most experienced managers surely, let alone a rookie?

He’s background is one of playing a short career at a high level, and then coaching at two of the top 5 Premier League Clubs, where he’s worked with squads of elite players, where rotation was / is the norm. He’s hardly likely to abandon what he knows is he?

I think he deserves at least a season’s free hit to get his feet and get to truly understand the League One culture. I don’t think the squad has even finished evolving yet. I also feel that because he analyses the game to such a depth and reflects on things , I’m sure he will adapt his approach, or at least talk about things with his colleagues / friends (I’m thinking the ex Man Utd players he’s friends with). Don’t forget this is a coach that went around the world experiencing different football cultures and coaching styles. He’s one for the future, not a one season suck it and see, option. As we’ve often said ( even though I’m prone to forgetting this myself in the heat of the moment), “ Rome wasn’t built in a day”. Nor is Ipswich under the new owners, and I’m sure whilst they’d like promotion asap, achieving that in McKenna’s first season here, might not have been “ expected”, but more hoped for.


We go again……

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McKenna first season …. on 16:32 - Feb 16 with 385 viewsFrimleyBlue

McKenna first season …. on 16:24 - Feb 16 by The_Flashing_Smile

No response to you getting it totally wrong calling me out for lack of patience with the previous manager then?


No. As I remember you very clearly having a go at me about PC. Remember I was very pro PC despite results. (Well until we played Bolton. Oh why is it always Bolton!)

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McKenna first season …. on 16:32 - Feb 16 with 389 viewstractorboy1978

McKenna first season …. on 14:51 - Feb 16 by jayessess

I can see that teams get stuck in a league despite their resources. You don't need very many things to go wrong to finish outside the top 2 of a division.

11th-9th-11th? Just shouldn't really be possible when 9 out of 10 clubs in your division play in single-tier stadiums with portaloos and sheds.


Spot on re your 1st paragraph, and it's even more the case this season. As disappointing as our results have been over the last 15 games, Sheff Wed/Plymouth are on course for 100 and 99 points respectively. That's a hell of a pace and neither show any signs of letting up.

You have to be absolutely relentless to get automatic promotion - even the great Burley side of 99/00 that ended up finishing 5th in the Prem didn't manage it!
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McKenna first season …. on 16:54 - Feb 16 with 345 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

McKenna first season …. on 13:35 - Feb 16 by The_Flashing_Smile

LOL. I love how you say "Basically none of them" and then list 2.
It's not remotely "none of them" if there's 2. Not sure how putting the word 'basically' in there helps your non-point.


Actually if you’d bothered to read the post I was replying to, Sunderland had already been listed which only leaves Sheffield United, who as I covered in my post had made a much better fist of it than us by now

Nice LOL though

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McKenna first season …. on 18:12 - Feb 16 with 304 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

McKenna first season …. on 16:32 - Feb 16 by FrimleyBlue

No. As I remember you very clearly having a go at me about PC. Remember I was very pro PC despite results. (Well until we played Bolton. Oh why is it always Bolton!)


I had a go at you flip flopping with your support for PC from one week to the next.
I supported him for too long, and got pelters for it. Your memory is obviously failing you.

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McKenna first season …. on 18:18 - Feb 16 with 298 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

McKenna first season …. on 16:54 - Feb 16 by C_HealyIsAPleasure

Actually if you’d bothered to read the post I was replying to, Sunderland had already been listed which only leaves Sheffield United, who as I covered in my post had made a much better fist of it than us by now

Nice LOL though

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If you're going to remove distasteful content it kind of defeats the object to say what it would have been in the edit! For the record, I don't drink.

Regardless of Sunderland already being listed and addressing Sheff U, that's still doesn't mean you can say "basically none". Two is nowhere near "basically none."

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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