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Tom Hunt denying the far right were at the Novotel protests, now defending Nazis on 00:43 - Apr 1 by bournemouthblue
...Last weekend there was a protest outside the Novotel opposing its use by the Home Office. I have no idea who was there. I spoke to Suffolk Police before the protest. And I spoke to them after. They informed me the organiser wasn’t connected to the “far right”, and they said after the protest that there was no confirmation the “far right” were present at the protest. Due to other protests around the country that had got out of hand I made sure I was in frequent contact with the Police.
There was a counter protest that took place at the same time. Those who were at this protest have made a number of allegations about the far right being present at the main protest against the use of the Novotel but I’m going off the reports I get from the Police, not them.
I’m not entirely sure what these protestors were looking to achieve or why they were there. I can only assume they were there because they supported the Novotel being used by those who have come here illegally from France (having refused to claim asylum in France and other safe European countries). Accommodated at the hotel at the taxpayer’s expense. There were a number of posters opposing all national borders. ...
Tom Hunt's actual words, quick to flag far right in speech marks and then making ridiculous assumptions about why the 'left' might want to counter protest against Nazis
Interestingly, we have two local Tories, trying to defend Tom now
And
Alcohol is the answer but I can't remember the question!
Tom Hunt denying the far right were at the Novotel protests, now defending Nazis on 12:36 - Apr 8 by BanksterDebtSlave
You can almost hear the sound of pennies dropping regarding Starmer's Labour even here on the forum. They really are red tories now and what sort of arse votes tory?
Reminds me of this thread I came across recently
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Tom Hunt denying the far right were at the Novotel protests, now defending Nazis on 22:32 - Apr 8 with 1364 views
Tom Hunt denying the far right were at the Novotel protests, now defending Nazis on 22:10 - Apr 8 by bournemouthblue
She's the one that got in trouble of a Grenfell Tower tweet or something like that?
Her partner had got in hot water for posting various stuff as well
Ipswich Tory Party really are some pieces of work, no wonder they are so unelectable!
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Wasn’t that Rees-Mogg? Tweeted that people who died in that fire lacked common sense because they did what the fire services told them to do and stay where they were.
If I’m remembering that properly it’s shocking that he’s still a MP and served in government after that.
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Tom Hunt denying the far right were at the Novotel protests, now defending Nazis on 02:51 - Apr 9 with 1268 views
Tom Hunt denying the far right were at the Novotel protests, now defending Nazis on 22:32 - Apr 8 by MattinLondon
Wasn’t that Rees-Mogg? Tweeted that people who died in that fire lacked common sense because they did what the fire services told them to do and stay where they were.
If I’m remembering that properly it’s shocking that he’s still a MP and served in government after that.
Tom Hunt denying the far right were at the Novotel protests, now defending Nazis on 14:49 - Apr 8 by DJR
As to the purge going on in the Labour Party, this is well worth a watch.
Part of the problem it seems to me is that the views and people the Labour Party are seeking to suppress are portrayed as being hard left, but that is far from case for me, or several decent friends of mine who have resigned their membership in protest at the direction Starmer is taking the party.
[Post edited 8 Apr 2023 14:59]
Friend of mine has left the party after 60 years in protest at Tory MP who defected to Labour being imposed as his local candidate.
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Tom Hunt denying the far right were at the Novotel protests, now defending Nazis on 05:04 - Apr 9 with 1249 views
Tom Hunt denying the far right were at the Novotel protests, now defending Nazis on 05:04 - Apr 9 by bournemouthblue
Crikey, strange time to be doing it, given Labour will get into power again
I appreciate they're essentially New New Labour now but it's better than this rabid Tory mob who call themselves a government
Oh, to have the luxury of being a member in a constituency with any hope of a Labour MP!
But I think the principle, as a member, would be having someone (and a former Tory to boot) imposed as the candidate.
This (and the fixing of selection panels elsewhere) flies in the face of the following tweet from Starmer.
This, along with the ditching of various pledges he made when running for leader, opens up him up to a charge of hypocrisy, and the following video sums this up quite well.
The problem it seems to me is that it is not really clear what Labour now stands for, and for every supporter they might gain by moving to the right, they might lose another disillusioned by what is going.
Interestingly, the following from today's Observer suggests the Tories are making a bit of a comeback.
"Meanwhile Labour jitters over its own ballot performance will be increased by the latest Opinium poll for the Observer which shows that the party’s lead has dropped by four points to 11% since last weekend, while Sunak’s approval rating has improved from -15% to -6%. The poll was conducted before news of the row over the poster broke on social media.
Labour is on 41% (-3), the Conservatives 30% (+1), the Lib Dems 10% (+1), Reform 7% (unchanged) and the Greens are also unchanged on 5%.
Starmer still holds a narrow lead over Sunak on the question of who would be the best prime minister: 28% say Starmer would be the best, against 26% who would prefer Sunak.
Adam Drummond of Opinium said it was too early to say whether the result, showing the lowest Labour lead for months, was part of a trend: this would become clearer with more polls in the coming weeks."
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Tom Hunt denying the far right were at the Novotel protests, now defending Nazis on 08:25 - Apr 9 with 1152 views
Tom Hunt denying the far right were at the Novotel protests, now defending Nazis on 12:06 - Apr 8 by DJR
And Labour aren't really much better. This from an article I came across on the internet, which has links to various newspaper articles that justify the claims made.
"Want to know what the main difference would be between a Labour government and a Tory government on immigration? The cruelty would be more efficient.
Sir Keir Starmer, the Labour Party Leader, said he would support GPS tagging of asylum seekers, which a coalition of charities said would amount to ‘psychological torture’. Remember, this guy is meant to be a human rights lawyer.
He remained silent as Patriotic Alternative, a neo-Nazi group, inflamed local tensions in Knowsley, Merseyside towards asylum seekers taking up residence in a local hotel. The protest descended into violence as protestors set fire to a police van and fifteen people were arrested.
Similar protests are now happening across the country.
By not denouncing this far-right activity, in the hope that they can appeal to a distorted and offensive caricature of ‘red wall’ voters, Labour are complicit.
Rachel Reeves, the Shadow Chancellor, said the low levels of deportation were a ‘problem’ and she urged Braverman to speed up deportations.
Shadow Home Secretary Yvette Cooper confirmed this morning that Labour would not scrap the Nationality and Borders Act, which criminalises those arriving by small boats, putting Labour on a collision course with the UN Refugee Convention.
The Shadow Minister for Immigration, Stephen Kinnock, posted a graphic on social media which further inflamed the rhetoric by saying the Tories had ‘failed on small boat crossings’, featuring headlines on the high cost of asylum seekers staying in hotels and the amount of people that has crossed the English Channel.
This is nothing new from Labour. Apart from a brief period from 2015-19, the Labour Party have always been right-wing on immigration.
During the New Labour years there was a whole host of anti-refugee bills pushed through by Home Secretaries under Tony Blair, who himself set a target to cut the number of people applying for refugee status in Britain by 50%.
Whether it was Jacqui Smith, who banned unskilled immigrants from outside the EU with a points-based Australian-style immigration system, Jack Straw, who stripped refugees of benefits and made them use vouchers to buy food, Ruth Kelly, who told councils to stop translating things into other languages to make life more difficult for immigrants who didn’t speak English, ‘as an incentive’, or John Reid, who whipped up anger against ‘foreigners who come to this country illegitimately and steal our benefits’ .
And we can’t forget the worst of the bunch, David Blunkett, a current Labour Party advisor, who introduced a series of right-wing laws as Home Secretary, from banning asylum seekers from working while their claims were being assessed, to trying to force failed asylum seekers to do unwaged work in exchange for ‘basic subsistence’ or banning their children from attending state schools. He brought a bill to cut benefits for asylum seekers and then take their children away into care once they become destitute and even wanted to send all asylum seekers to offshore processing centres outside Europe (sound familiar?).
In 2007, Margaret Hodge, who is still a Labour MP, called for British-born families to take priority of immigrants in the queue for council homes, with her policy receiving backing from no other than the British National Party (BNP).
And who can forget the infamous ‘Controls on immigration’ mugs that Labour MPs posed with as something to celebrate under the leadership of Ed Miliband?"
And all of the above policies were implemented whilst you were a Labour member and voter? Yes?
Tom Hunt denying the far right were at the Novotel protests, now defending Nazis on 08:16 - Apr 9 by DJR
Oh, to have the luxury of being a member in a constituency with any hope of a Labour MP!
But I think the principle, as a member, would be having someone (and a former Tory to boot) imposed as the candidate.
This (and the fixing of selection panels elsewhere) flies in the face of the following tweet from Starmer.
This, along with the ditching of various pledges he made when running for leader, opens up him up to a charge of hypocrisy, and the following video sums this up quite well.
The problem it seems to me is that it is not really clear what Labour now stands for, and for every supporter they might gain by moving to the right, they might lose another disillusioned by what is going.
Interestingly, the following from today's Observer suggests the Tories are making a bit of a comeback.
"Meanwhile Labour jitters over its own ballot performance will be increased by the latest Opinium poll for the Observer which shows that the party’s lead has dropped by four points to 11% since last weekend, while Sunak’s approval rating has improved from -15% to -6%. The poll was conducted before news of the row over the poster broke on social media.
Labour is on 41% (-3), the Conservatives 30% (+1), the Lib Dems 10% (+1), Reform 7% (unchanged) and the Greens are also unchanged on 5%.
Starmer still holds a narrow lead over Sunak on the question of who would be the best prime minister: 28% say Starmer would be the best, against 26% who would prefer Sunak.
Adam Drummond of Opinium said it was too early to say whether the result, showing the lowest Labour lead for months, was part of a trend: this would become clearer with more polls in the coming weeks."
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"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
Tom Hunt denying the far right were at the Novotel protests, now defending Nazis on 08:25 - Apr 9 by GlasgowBlue
And all of the above policies were implemented whilst you were a Labour member and voter? Yes?
What an unpleasant person you are.
I was not logged in and so (even though you are on ignore) noticed that you had chipped in with your usual smeary comment.
I actually resigned from the party in 2003, not because of the Iraq War but because of the direction that Labour was going in. I rejoined when Brown took over hoping that things might improve.
I am minded to resign at the moment, but think I will stay a member because of an emotional attachment to the party (it still says democratic socialist on my membership card) and because if everyone who shares my views leaves there will be no holding back the right of the party.
And whatever the failings of Labour, they are infinitely better than the Tories.
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Tom Hunt denying the far right were at the Novotel protests, now defending Nazis on 08:52 - Apr 9 with 1102 views
Tom Hunt denying the far right were at the Novotel protests, now defending Nazis on 08:16 - Apr 9 by DJR
Oh, to have the luxury of being a member in a constituency with any hope of a Labour MP!
But I think the principle, as a member, would be having someone (and a former Tory to boot) imposed as the candidate.
This (and the fixing of selection panels elsewhere) flies in the face of the following tweet from Starmer.
This, along with the ditching of various pledges he made when running for leader, opens up him up to a charge of hypocrisy, and the following video sums this up quite well.
The problem it seems to me is that it is not really clear what Labour now stands for, and for every supporter they might gain by moving to the right, they might lose another disillusioned by what is going.
Interestingly, the following from today's Observer suggests the Tories are making a bit of a comeback.
"Meanwhile Labour jitters over its own ballot performance will be increased by the latest Opinium poll for the Observer which shows that the party’s lead has dropped by four points to 11% since last weekend, while Sunak’s approval rating has improved from -15% to -6%. The poll was conducted before news of the row over the poster broke on social media.
Labour is on 41% (-3), the Conservatives 30% (+1), the Lib Dems 10% (+1), Reform 7% (unchanged) and the Greens are also unchanged on 5%.
Starmer still holds a narrow lead over Sunak on the question of who would be the best prime minister: 28% say Starmer would be the best, against 26% who would prefer Sunak.
Adam Drummond of Opinium said it was too early to say whether the result, showing the lowest Labour lead for months, was part of a trend: this would become clearer with more polls in the coming weeks."
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Starmer really is as dishonest as BoJo. Maybe more so because Johnson’s boyish rascal/clownish dishonesty was priced in from the start.
That along with his general emptiness, self-interest and authoritarian streak make him a dangerous individual as a prospective PM.
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Tom Hunt denying the far right were at the Novotel protests, now defending Nazis on 10:23 - Apr 9 with 1056 views
Tom Hunt denying the far right were at the Novotel protests, now defending Nazis on 19:20 - Apr 9 by GlasgowBlue
Meanwhile the Tories are now selecting actual nazis as council candidates.
How far away do you think a massive racism scandal is for the Tories, the Ipswich Tory party seem to have a fairly good crack at themselves with Tom Hunt inferring there were no Neo-Nazis present at the Novotel protest?
I'm genuinely baffled why he is taking this view, it's a really poor look and will bite him in the bum fairly soon, I am expecting
There are Tory members and councillors involved with the Ipswich Tories trying to defend this on Twitter, getting absolutely torn to bits
It's really disappointing to see in any Town, let alone Ipswich
I'm sure there are Conservatives with a small c who would prefer Starmer to this mob now, Tom Hunt is a Brexit Party Mp in Tory clothes really, he's likely to be toast at the next election any way
But it could easily end in tears and soon, if a National paper picks this up and runs with it
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Alcohol is the answer but I can't remember the question!
Tom Hunt denying the far right were at the Novotel protests, now defending Nazis on 08:24 - Apr 10 by Darth_Koont
I get it.
I also get how much you are pwning yourself because you were pushing even harder right over this entire period.
Indeed. I’ve had the same thing thrown at me on here for years. Mostly by people who voted for the party who implemented what was highlighted in DJR’s post. Hence the whooosh.
Despite living here for most of your life you still don’t get English irony.
Tom Hunt denying the far right were at the Novotel protests, now defending Nazis on 00:16 - Apr 10 by bournemouthblue
How far away do you think a massive racism scandal is for the Tories, the Ipswich Tory party seem to have a fairly good crack at themselves with Tom Hunt inferring there were no Neo-Nazis present at the Novotel protest?
I'm genuinely baffled why he is taking this view, it's a really poor look and will bite him in the bum fairly soon, I am expecting
There are Tory members and councillors involved with the Ipswich Tories trying to defend this on Twitter, getting absolutely torn to bits
It's really disappointing to see in any Town, let alone Ipswich
I'm sure there are Conservatives with a small c who would prefer Starmer to this mob now, Tom Hunt is a Brexit Party Mp in Tory clothes really, he's likely to be toast at the next election any way
But it could easily end in tears and soon, if a National paper picks this up and runs with it
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If it stays at a local level then it won’t get much traction nationally. After all, had I not endlessly banged on about it how many people would have been aware that five years ago Labour selected 4 Holocaust deniers and a bloke who posted that “Hitler was right about the Jews” as council candidates.
It will take a high profile national figure to come out blatant racism for the whole thing to blow up.
But that’s even more worrying, as it’s the grass roots who control the agenda nationally. It’s shameful that a fiscally centre right Thatcherite (although socially liberal) like me feels completely disillusioned and disgusted at the Tory party, but former members of the BNP and Britain First feel right at home.
The only way that will change is if the Tories suffer a massive humiliating defeat at the next election.
Tom Hunt denying the far right were at the Novotel protests, now defending Nazis on 08:28 - Apr 10 by GlasgowBlue
Indeed. I’ve had the same thing thrown at me on here for years. Mostly by people who voted for the party who implemented what was highlighted in DJR’s post. Hence the whooosh.
Despite living here for most of your life you still don’t get English irony.
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But it’s not the same thing. It’s literally worse and shows your politics for what they are.
I certainly get the irony of you being an anti-racist. 😂
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Tom Hunt denying the far right were at the Novotel protests, now defending Nazis on 08:48 - Apr 10 with 671 views
Tom Hunt denying the far right were at the Novotel protests, now defending Nazis on 08:46 - Apr 10 by Darth_Koont
But it’s not the same thing. It’s literally worse and shows your politics for what they are.
I certainly get the irony of you being an anti-racist. 😂
Whereas it takes no irony at all for several people on here to have highlighted the sort of bigotry you spout which saw a Jewish poster forced to put you on ignore.
Tom Hunt denying the far right were at the Novotel protests, now defending Nazis on 08:48 - Apr 10 by GlasgowBlue
Whereas it takes no irony at all for several people on here to have highlighted the sort of bigotry you spout which saw a Jewish poster forced to put you on ignore.
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Gmpf. I don’t really worry about what you and the few other die-hard weoponisers say about me.
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