| The legacy of Marcus Evans 07:24 - May 1 with 2178 views | PioneerBlue |
An [crossed out - small blot -] unwelcome blot on the history books. Now corrected.
But what is the actual legacy? I can only see two things, a small one and a massive one.
1-SeatGeek - it has survived everything
2-New owners, with cash to invest and they get football and how to create and extract value - we are on our way, presumably the value side will become more and more important as the Championship is a quick way to lose a lot of money but I will forever be grateful to ME for finding this new ownership group and for season we are being gifted. [Post edited 1 May 2023 8:42]
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| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 07:38 - May 1 with 2110 views | Lord_Lucan |
I know I’m gonna be in the minority but I quite liked ME however In hindsight his years were bloody awful. I think he was a bit unlucky at times but I admit I was wrong to have backed him so much.
The difference now is night and day. I wager it was awful working under ME.
I wish him well though - but what got to me most was the little things like the overgrown weeds around the ticket office. I mean, we all fail at things now and again but some things just shouldn’t happen and it shows your eye is not on the ball.
Failure is acceptable if you give it your best, but he didn’t give it his best. |  |
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| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 07:43 - May 1 with 2089 views | PioneerBlue |
| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 07:38 - May 1 by Lord_Lucan |
I know I’m gonna be in the minority but I quite liked ME however In hindsight his years were bloody awful. I think he was a bit unlucky at times but I admit I was wrong to have backed him so much.
The difference now is night and day. I wager it was awful working under ME.
I wish him well though - but what got to me most was the little things like the overgrown weeds around the ticket office. I mean, we all fail at things now and again but some things just shouldn’t happen and it shows your eye is not on the ball.
Failure is acceptable if you give it your best, but he didn’t give it his best. |
I don’t disagree but I was looking at the legacy. Do we add weeds to the current list of 2 legacy things to remember him for?!! | |
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| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 07:48 - May 1 with 2067 views | clive_baker |
Smallish, not small enough for my liking. Owned the club for 10% of its entire existence and starved a whole generation. Very damaging really, we’re lucky we now have Ashton and co and the new owners to inject a bit of impetus, as the cuts really do run deep and was never going to change overnight.
At least he didn’t bin off the academy. Under invested in it, but didn’t bin it altogether. At a push could give him some credit for Woolfy, Clarke, Humphries etc, as well as Downes & Dozzell who arguably funded a number of those players who got us up this season.
That really is about it. |  |
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| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 08:14 - May 1 with 1946 views | wingerii |
I’m not a fan a of the Marcus Evans era at all, he should have moved on quickly and it’s great to be loose of those shackles, however, I think people forget that actually when the club needed him the most, when we were in deep financial s***, he was the one that rescued us an stabilised the club.
However, he wasn’t a risk taker, and ended up stagnating what he had. Stayed too long. But I still give him credit for helping keep the club alive when it needed it most. | | | |
| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 08:18 - May 1 with 1921 views | Pippin1970 |
Initially under first two managers we spent big transfer fees. Especially when Keane rocked up possible promotion charge. Then the rest is history after that. | | | |
| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 08:42 - May 1 with 1839 views | Lord_Lucan |
| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 08:18 - May 1 by Pippin1970 |
Initially under first two managers we spent big transfer fees. Especially when Keane rocked up possible promotion charge. Then the rest is history after that. |
He also offered to back Mick Mack after we beat Brentford to go top on Boxing Day but MM said he didn’t need it.
This was my issue with MM, I think he liked to play the martyr. | |
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| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 08:54 - May 1 with 1795 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 07:38 - May 1 by Lord_Lucan |
I know I’m gonna be in the minority but I quite liked ME however In hindsight his years were bloody awful. I think he was a bit unlucky at times but I admit I was wrong to have backed him so much.
The difference now is night and day. I wager it was awful working under ME.
I wish him well though - but what got to me most was the little things like the overgrown weeds around the ticket office. I mean, we all fail at things now and again but some things just shouldn’t happen and it shows your eye is not on the ball.
Failure is acceptable if you give it your best, but he didn’t give it his best. |
I think you'll be in the minority to admit it, but there were a large number of us who were repeatedly shot down for any criticism of Evans, all the way up to the end of his tenure, when the GC20 rumours first started.
With Evans, it was the constant corner cutting, and that corner cutting ultimately led us to League one. I'll bet he loved it after Mick when we all started demanding a young up and coming manager, as that meant he could get a cheaper one. Many on here, are rightly critical of Hurst, but this notion that Hurst dismantled that team on his own, is fanciful at best. Evans was front and centre in that process and it was all, 100% about slashing the wage budget.
Today, most say he was awful, but 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it. |  |
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| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 09:02 - May 1 with 1751 views | Stewart27 |
| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 07:38 - May 1 by Lord_Lucan |
I know I’m gonna be in the minority but I quite liked ME however In hindsight his years were bloody awful. I think he was a bit unlucky at times but I admit I was wrong to have backed him so much.
The difference now is night and day. I wager it was awful working under ME.
I wish him well though - but what got to me most was the little things like the overgrown weeds around the ticket office. I mean, we all fail at things now and again but some things just shouldn’t happen and it shows your eye is not on the ball.
Failure is acceptable if you give it your best, but he didn’t give it his best. |
Walking towards Portman Road form the town and it looking like a scene from an apocalypse movie will unfortunately live long in my memory.
I thank Marcus Evans for nothing.
He stole 15 good years of supporting town away from me. I’m just grateful that I can remember the before and am now here for the after. | | | |
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| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 09:06 - May 1 with 1737 views | RegencyBlue |
I wouldn’t describe Evans as a small blot in the clubs history. He was destroying it on and off the pitch through sheer incompetence!
He didn’t have a clue how to run a football club and never employed anyone who did. The appointment of Clegg was a prime example of Evans priorities, wanting to use Clegg contacts to get his grubby little paws on London 2012 tickets for his other business ‘activities’ rather than for the good of Ipswich Town.
As for SeatGeek, Ashton said at a supporters meeting ages ago that the Club had been trying to terminate the contract but without success. I don’t know when the contract runs out but I think it’s fair to say it’s unlikely to be renewed!
Finally, who says Evans found Gamechanger? My understanding from reports at the time was that Gamechanger found us, after a recommendation from Frank Yallop. There were people who gave Evans credit for writing off the £100 million debt on the books but let’s be honest, nobody was going to buy the club in the state it was in and take on the debt as well. Evans had no choice if he wanted to sell to anyone and I think even he knew the game was up with increasing fan unrest and poor season ticket sales at the end.
Personally I’d describe Evans as a major stain on our history and the only legacy is the lesson that the Club must never fall into the hands of such a charlatan again! |  | | |
| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 09:12 - May 1 with 1703 views | wkj |
| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 07:38 - May 1 by Lord_Lucan |
I know I’m gonna be in the minority but I quite liked ME however In hindsight his years were bloody awful. I think he was a bit unlucky at times but I admit I was wrong to have backed him so much.
The difference now is night and day. I wager it was awful working under ME.
I wish him well though - but what got to me most was the little things like the overgrown weeds around the ticket office. I mean, we all fail at things now and again but some things just shouldn’t happen and it shows your eye is not on the ball.
Failure is acceptable if you give it your best, but he didn’t give it his best. |
I'm sure he believed in himself and his 5 point plans, but year after year of giving us weird communications via some mouthpiece lead me to dislike him very much. Fact of the matter is, he really never had a clue on how to build a backroom team to manage a football team. The biggest evidence of this is the fact we let so many players walk out of contracts and signed a staggering number of players with no resale value.
In short, Evans really did very little to protect his asset which is not the kind of output you'd expect from a successful business person, so on that note - there is little I can really like him for other than his ambition. |  |
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| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 09:16 - May 1 with 1688 views | mrshallisfit |
I'm as glad as anyone else he is gone but we have to credit him with one thing. He wiped the rest of our debt. | | | |
| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 09:31 - May 1 with 1629 views | RegencyBlue |
| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 09:16 - May 1 by mrshallisfit |
I'm as glad as anyone else he is gone but we have to credit him with one thing. He wiped the rest of our debt. |
As I said in an earlier reply, what choice did he have?
Nobody was going to buy the club, stump up the investment required to put right the damage inflicted by Evans and take on the debt as well.
Evans time here was up, he knew it and did the only thing he could! | | | |
| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 10:01 - May 1 with 1535 views | LeoMuff |
| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 07:38 - May 1 by Lord_Lucan |
I know I’m gonna be in the minority but I quite liked ME however In hindsight his years were bloody awful. I think he was a bit unlucky at times but I admit I was wrong to have backed him so much.
The difference now is night and day. I wager it was awful working under ME.
I wish him well though - but what got to me most was the little things like the overgrown weeds around the ticket office. I mean, we all fail at things now and again but some things just shouldn’t happen and it shows your eye is not on the ball.
Failure is acceptable if you give it your best, but he didn’t give it his best. |
For a man worth the best part of £1bn he criminally underfunded us, and for a hugely successful business person he was utterly utterly clueless.
Only thing he got right was selling to Gamechanger, who have subsequently shown that getting people in who know something about football and taking some calculations risks gets results.
I don’t think he was a malicious owner but criminally negligent to be still making the same mistakes after a decade. |  |
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| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 10:07 - May 1 with 1514 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 10:01 - May 1 by LeoMuff |
For a man worth the best part of £1bn he criminally underfunded us, and for a hugely successful business person he was utterly utterly clueless.
Only thing he got right was selling to Gamechanger, who have subsequently shown that getting people in who know something about football and taking some calculations risks gets results.
I don’t think he was a malicious owner but criminally negligent to be still making the same mistakes after a decade. |
Him being a hugely successful business person is what doomed us.
He tried to run this place like his other businesses, and the bit he NEVER understood is that football is not like any other business. | |
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| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 10:10 - May 1 with 1504 views | azuremerlangus |
Let's be clear about this; yes he did rescue us but he was in it for a quick profit.
What I found strange was there was no tea or coffee refreshments at the very first shareholders AGM after he took over. Small detail I know but considering his company is trumpeted as the world leader at conferencing it struck me as very odd, and didn’t leave me a very good first impression of him or his organisation.
Our new owners seem to be the opposite where every detail (large or small) is looked at and a plan created in line with a clear vision.
We are a classic car that is finally getting a proper rebuild after a dodgy respray by the previous owner. [Post edited 1 May 2023 10:12]
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| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 10:14 - May 1 with 1475 views | Ryorry |
| The legacy of Marcus Evans on 10:07 - May 1 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Him being a hugely successful business person is what doomed us.
He tried to run this place like his other businesses, and the bit he NEVER understood is that football is not like any other business. |
If he ran his other businesses' catering like he ran it at PR, how on earth did he ever become a "successful businessman"?!
Either luck, reasons which I'd better not suggest on here for Phil n' Gav's sakes, or a combination of those maybe 🤔 |  |
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and kept quiet about around £20m of required upgrades.