| Gamechanger and the ROI 19:05 - May 15 with 7865 views | TalkingBlues |
I haven't been through numbers in any sort of detail, but from memory they have chucked in £14 million so far (?) includes player purchases, new pitch, stand and training ground improvements etc, feels like that money has actually gone quite a long way.
We should receive about £1.3 million for the season we just had in League 1 and and that steps up to between £7 million and £8 million into the coffers next season, so already guaranteed around £8 million to £9 million in receipts from TV/Solidarity (I wanna 'ave babies, and be called Loretta) payments. As far as I can see, they've recouped a massive amount of their initial investment already and the club will benefit long term, from the new pitch and stand upgrades etc, no matter what happens from here on out. They're making the business of football look easy at the moment, aren't they? With a pot of £200,000,000 available for another promotion and the initial outlay they made virtually recovered, I doubt it will take much encouragement to dip their hands even deeper into their pockets this time around.
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| Gamechanger and the ROI on 13:16 - May 16 with 888 views | dirtyboy |
| Gamechanger and the ROI on 12:55 - May 16 by SmithersJones |
"As/when we are established in the Prem and performing no doubt there could be a sale" Lagos, do you think that's their exit strategy? I'm more of the view that they want to get us to the point where we're a championship club ready for the prem and then sell to someone who sees the value add of getting us up. I'm pretty sure in one of the early interviews Brett Johnson said they'd looked at Newcastle but didn't think the ceiling was high enough. If a potential buyer can't see how they increase the value of the asset then they're unlikely to buy, I would have thought. |
I think with Newcastle it was not the ceiling, it was the scope for improvement.
Taking a large prem club performing okay, how do you add significant value to it for the pension owners? |  | | |
| Gamechanger and the ROI on 14:03 - May 16 with 830 views | xrayspecs |
Gamechanger paid off £21m of the clubs debts at the time of the takeover (ME wrote off the remainder).
GC have since paid £19.75m for shares.
So, minimum of £40m to date. [Post edited 16 May 2023 14:08]
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| Gamechanger and the ROI on 14:08 - May 16 with 822 views | TalkingBlues |
There’s frickin hundreds of ‘em on this thread, but they won’t give us any numbers until they have business details to send the invoice to, the charlatans 😂 [Post edited 16 May 2023 14:09]
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| Gamechanger and the ROI on 14:23 - May 16 with 773 views | TalkingBlues |
To all the accountants out there, my Googling suggests that the “Markham Multivariate Method” is the closest thing to identifying a possible value for a club, as most other methods aren’t suitable for the rather specific nature of a football club apparently, but you still need to use a suitable multiplier and then account for Brand value, right then, sounds simple, off you go 😀 | |
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| Gamechanger and the ROI on 15:43 - May 16 with 725 views | bluelagos |
| Gamechanger and the ROI on 14:23 - May 16 by TalkingBlues |
To all the accountants out there, my Googling suggests that the “Markham Multivariate Method” is the closest thing to identifying a possible value for a club, as most other methods aren’t suitable for the rather specific nature of a football club apparently, but you still need to use a suitable multiplier and then account for Brand value, right then, sounds simple, off you go 😀 |
Google tells me the MMM values Man U at around £900m - so it is clearly as useful as a Twtd discussion at valuing footie clubs in the real world.
Said it before, will say it again, the club is worth what someone is willing to pay for it, end of. Given it's not being pitched for sale at the moment, then any estimates will be pure guess work/speculation and not based on any solid knowledge.
If you want to throw some darts around then great, but for now it's an academic exercise and you are going to struggle to find any accurate valuations and/or methods for coming up with one.
It just isn't an exact science I'm afraid. |  |
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| Gamechanger and the ROI on 16:16 - May 16 with 718 views | TalkingBlues |
| Gamechanger and the ROI on 15:43 - May 16 by bluelagos |
Google tells me the MMM values Man U at around £900m - so it is clearly as useful as a Twtd discussion at valuing footie clubs in the real world.
Said it before, will say it again, the club is worth what someone is willing to pay for it, end of. Given it's not being pitched for sale at the moment, then any estimates will be pure guess work/speculation and not based on any solid knowledge.
If you want to throw some darts around then great, but for now it's an academic exercise and you are going to struggle to find any accurate valuations and/or methods for coming up with one.
It just isn't an exact science I'm afraid. |
Agreed, it seems to be rather a subjective topic, negotiations for the purchase of a club must be a bloody nightmare. | |
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| Gamechanger and the ROI on 16:54 - May 16 with 705 views | lurcher |
| Gamechanger and the ROI on 14:23 - May 16 by TalkingBlues |
To all the accountants out there, my Googling suggests that the “Markham Multivariate Method” is the closest thing to identifying a possible value for a club, as most other methods aren’t suitable for the rather specific nature of a football club apparently, but you still need to use a suitable multiplier and then account for Brand value, right then, sounds simple, off you go 😀 |
The club is only part of it. The development of the land around the ground is part of the overall worth of game changer. |  | | |
| Gamechanger and the ROI on 17:12 - May 16 with 694 views | J2BLUE |
| Gamechanger and the ROI on 15:43 - May 16 by bluelagos |
Google tells me the MMM values Man U at around £900m - so it is clearly as useful as a Twtd discussion at valuing footie clubs in the real world.
Said it before, will say it again, the club is worth what someone is willing to pay for it, end of. Given it's not being pitched for sale at the moment, then any estimates will be pure guess work/speculation and not based on any solid knowledge.
If you want to throw some darts around then great, but for now it's an academic exercise and you are going to struggle to find any accurate valuations and/or methods for coming up with one.
It just isn't an exact science I'm afraid. |
£900m being about one fifth of the opening bids though. |  |
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| Gamechanger and the ROI on 19:47 - May 16 with 637 views | TalkingBlues |
| Gamechanger and the ROI on 16:54 - May 16 by lurcher |
The club is only part of it. The development of the land around the ground is part of the overall worth of game changer. |
Yep, it’s a very different proposition to a “normal” business. | |
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| Gamechanger and the ROI on 20:11 - May 16 with 613 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Gamechanger and the ROI on 16:54 - May 16 by lurcher |
The club is only part of it. The development of the land around the ground is part of the overall worth of game changer. |
And I have said since the beginning, too, that an outside bet part of the equation may have been the potential for the women's game to grow, as well.
Gamechanger certainly take a broader view of development and growth than either "What assets can we flog?" or "Premier League or bust!" which can both be seen blighting other historic English clubs. | | | |
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