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Australian top five 18:42 - Jun 7 with 1235 viewsgordon

Some serious batting averages - appreciate there's more to cricket than averages but still!

Warner: 46
Khawaja: 48
Labuschagne :57
Smith: 60
Head: 48

*And obviously Harry Brook (82) makes these all look rubbish.
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Australian top five on 22:32 - Jun 7 with 1133 viewsChrisd

Yes, they look a very good top 5. My concern is that I just don’t see that we’ve got enough firepower to bowl them out. The decision of bringing Ali back I find a total farce. What message does that send out to the County bowlers? Ali’s bowling average is so poor against them too, that Aussie top 5 will be licking their lips to bring those averages up by the time this Ashes series finishes.
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Australian top five on 22:51 - Jun 7 with 1106 viewsredrickstuhaart

Australian top five on 22:32 - Jun 7 by Chrisd

Yes, they look a very good top 5. My concern is that I just don’t see that we’ve got enough firepower to bowl them out. The decision of bringing Ali back I find a total farce. What message does that send out to the County bowlers? Ali’s bowling average is so poor against them too, that Aussie top 5 will be licking their lips to bring those averages up by the time this Ashes series finishes.
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Your take on Moeen is a minority one. It says to county bowlers that we havent got any decent spinners. As usual. Its a fair message.
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Australian top five on 04:38 - Jun 8 with 1050 viewsChrisd

Australian top five on 22:51 - Jun 7 by redrickstuhaart

Your take on Moeen is a minority one. It says to county bowlers that we havent got any decent spinners. As usual. Its a fair message.


Is it? I’d have a look at what a lot of ex professional cricketers are saying about this situation, I’m certainly not in the minority where this topic is concerned. We’ve got a young lad in Ahmed who is an attacking spinner, who can bat, we’ve also got Liam Dawson who’d be able to control an end and he also bats. Moeen retired for a reason. His bowling average against the Aussies is 64.65!! Really think this is a backward step by England, like many others.
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Australian top five on 08:17 - Jun 8 with 992 viewsDBaldy

Australian top five on 04:38 - Jun 8 by Chrisd

Is it? I’d have a look at what a lot of ex professional cricketers are saying about this situation, I’m certainly not in the minority where this topic is concerned. We’ve got a young lad in Ahmed who is an attacking spinner, who can bat, we’ve also got Liam Dawson who’d be able to control an end and he also bats. Moeen retired for a reason. His bowling average against the Aussies is 64.65!! Really think this is a backward step by England, like many others.
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Agree with all of that. IMO sends out the wrong message, especially to Ahmed, & what happens if Moeen struggles or even decides to retire again mid-series?

I hope he proves me wrong, but just got a bad feeling about it, especially given that Stokes is unlikely to be able to bowl much himself, if at all, which will put even more pressure on Jimmy, Broad & Robinson.
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Australian top five on 08:27 - Jun 8 with 981 viewsitfcjoe

Lets see what their averages are in England with a Duke ball...!

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Australian top five on 08:32 - Jun 8 with 951 viewsredrickstuhaart

Australian top five on 04:38 - Jun 8 by Chrisd

Is it? I’d have a look at what a lot of ex professional cricketers are saying about this situation, I’m certainly not in the minority where this topic is concerned. We’ve got a young lad in Ahmed who is an attacking spinner, who can bat, we’ve also got Liam Dawson who’d be able to control an end and he also bats. Moeen retired for a reason. His bowling average against the Aussies is 64.65!! Really think this is a backward step by England, like many others.
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A very young attacking spinner, in an Ashes match where we will want to tie down an end given the absence of fit all rounders?

Aussies will likely ruin him for life.

Dawson is the only other realistic option.
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Australian top five on 09:02 - Jun 8 with 897 viewsSaleAway

Australian top five on 08:27 - Jun 8 by itfcjoe

Lets see what their averages are in England with a Duke ball...!


Khawaja 47(All) 18(Eng)
Warner 46(all) 27(Eng)
Labushagne 57(all) (47( eng)
Smith - 60(All) 63(Eng)
Head - 48(all) 48( Eng)

for comparison - Englands top 5 records

Duckett 47(All) Eng ( 182)
Crawley 28 (All) Eng (33)
Pope 35(all) Eng (37)
Root 50(All), 54(eng)
Brook 81 (all) 21(eng)

caveat - Ducket and Brook haven't got a very big England sample size!

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Australian top five on 16:18 - Jun 8 with 807 viewsSaleAway

Indian top order showing how good that batting performance ( or how bad the indian bowling performance) was yesterday. Quality display of fast bowling from Australia put india in deep trouble...

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