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All this talk of massive clubs 07:44 - Jun 8 with 4371 views

I would say we are up there with the best

There are only 10 clubs to have won the league the fa cup and a major European cup ie, champions league uefa cup or cup winners cup

Remember when we won the UEFA cup only winners of the league went in the European cup so the UEFA cup was a major European trophy

Remember as well we are the only English club never to have lost at home in Europe

Can anyone name all other 9 clubs to have won all 3 major trophies?

I am so proud to be anIpswich fan

Norwich just can’t compete with that

All this talk of massive clubs on 07:57 - Jun 8 with 3415 views

NeedhamChris

You're forgetting our 4-2 defeat at home against Port Vale in the anglo-Italian cup ðŸ˜‚

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All this talk of massive clubs on 08:03 - Jun 8 with 3393 views

bluelagos

I'll guess

Villa
Man U
Spurs
Forrest
Liverpool
Arsenal
Everton
Newcastle
Chelsea

Edit. Scrub Forest, not won the Fa cup....so one short

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All this talk of massive clubs on 08:07 - Jun 8 with 3364 views

bluelagos

All this talk of massive clubs on 08:03 - Jun 8 by bluelagos
I'll guess Villa Man U Spurs Forrest Liverpool Arsenal Everton Newcastle Chelsea Edit. Scrub Forest, not won the Fa cup....so one short [Post edited 8 Jun 2023 8:05]

Did Man City win the Cup winner cup in the 60s? Did Leeds win a Euopean trophy?

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All this talk of massive clubs on 08:08 - Jun 8 with 3355 views

Swansea_Blue

All this talk of massive clubs on 08:03 - Jun 8 by bluelagos
I'll guess Villa Man U Spurs Forrest Liverpool Arsenal Everton Newcastle Chelsea Edit. Scrub Forest, not won the Fa cup....so one short [Post edited 8 Jun 2023 8:05]

Dirty Leeds probably

edit - ignore that, runners up in European Cup not winners

[Post edited 8 Jun 2023 8:09]

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All this talk of massive clubs on 08:32 - Jun 8 with 3279 views

Tangledupin_Blue

Talk of 'big' or 'massive' clubs is pretty meaningless. Supporters have different notions of what makes a club 'big'. Many will determine their criteria to favour their own club (as in the op).

Where does Huddersfield's three consecutive championships, before the European Cup had been devised, put them in the pantheon of 'big' clubs? And Preston's early achievements. What about Bury's two record breaking FA Cups? That must make them bigger than Crystal Palace. How big a club is 'The Wanderers' these days?

We have been shrinking compared to others. There is a reasonable case that we are now smaller than Bournemouth or Brentford - or Norwich.

All meaningless.

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All this talk of massive clubs on 08:36 - Jun 8 with 3253 views

DJR

All this talk of massive clubs on 08:08 - Jun 8 by Swansea_Blue
Dirty Leeds probably edit - ignore that, runners up in European Cup not winners [Post edited 8 Jun 2023 8:09]

It is Leeds. They won the Fairs Cup (the predecessor of the UEFA Cup) in 1968 and 1971.

[Post edited 8 Jun 2023 8:36]

All this talk of massive clubs on 08:43 - Jun 8 with 3220 views

bluelagos

So we have

Villa
Everton
Liverpool
Man C
Man U
Arsenal
Spurs
Chelsea
Newcastle
Leeds

So the OP should be "10 other clubs"...?

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All this talk of massive clubs on 09:31 - Jun 8 with 3104 views

Sharkey

I don't really understand how the UEFA Cup worked. In 80-81 there were five West German teams, and just three each from England, France, and Spain. Also three from E. Germany, the same as the Soviet Union (Dynamo Kiev, Donetsk, Dynamo Moscow).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980%E2%80%9381_UEFA_Cup

The Cup Winner's Cup of course had some huge clubs, and some tiny ones. (Newport County won 6-0 on aggregate in the 2nd round!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980%E2%80%9381_European_Cup_Winners%27_Cup

All this talk of massive clubs on 09:34 - Jun 8 with 3092 views

GeoffSentence

All this talk of massive clubs on 07:57 - Jun 8 by NeedhamChris
You're forgetting our 4-2 defeat at home against Port Vale in the anglo-Italian cup ðŸ˜‚

On the positive side, if you consider the anglo-italian cup to be a european trophy despite only involving teams from two UEFA nations, then that means that the Texaco Cup was as well and we have won two European trophies.

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All this talk of massive clubs on 09:58 - Jun 8 with 3037 views

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Royal Engineers have won the FA Cup

All this talk of massive clubs on 10:08 - Jun 8 with 2994 views

Pinewoodblue

All this talk of massive clubs on 08:03 - Jun 8 by bluelagos
I'll guess Villa Man U Spurs Forrest Liverpool Arsenal Everton Newcastle Chelsea Edit. Scrub Forest, not won the Fa cup....so one short [Post edited 8 Jun 2023 8:05]

The missing team is, I think, Derby.

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All this talk of massive clubs on 10:14 - Jun 8 with 2983 views

Sharkey

Speaking of massive, which club in what is now Essex (i.e. not Orient, not W.Ham) has played in front of the biggest crowd?

All this talk of massive clubs on 10:28 - Jun 8 with 2956 views

Pinewoodblue

All this talk of massive clubs on 10:14 - Jun 8 by Sharkey
Speaking of massive, which club in what is now Essex (i.e. not Orient, not W.Ham) has played in front of the biggest crowd?

Colchester at Wembley.

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All this talk of massive clubs on 10:35 - Jun 8 with 2935 views

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All this talk of massive clubs on 08:03 - Jun 8 by bluelagos
I'll guess Villa Man U Spurs Forrest Liverpool Arsenal Everton Newcastle Chelsea Edit. Scrub Forest, not won the Fa cup....so one short [Post edited 8 Jun 2023 8:05]

I thought Forest won the FA Cup way back when. Beat Luton in the final?

All this talk of massive clubs on 10:38 - Jun 8 with 2913 views

farkenhell

All this talk of massive clubs on 10:08 - Jun 8 by Pinewoodblue
The missing team is, I think, Derby.

I don't think Derby have won a major European Cup.

All this talk of massive clubs on 10:39 - Jun 8 with 2906 views

DJR

All this talk of massive clubs on 09:31 - Jun 8 by Sharkey

I always thought the UEFA Cup was the most difficult to win, because, although it didn't have the previous season's league winners, it had the next three or so in the big leagues some of whom were more likely to be doing well than the previous season's league winners.

All this talk of massive clubs on 10:47 - Jun 8 with 2824 views

farkenhell

All this talk of massive clubs on 10:39 - Jun 8 by DJR
I always thought the UEFA Cup was the most difficult to win, because, although it didn't have the previous season's league winners, it had the next three or so in the big leagues some of whom were more likely to be doing well than the previous season's league winners.

Yes that's right. Also there were always at least 2 powerful clubs from each major country, so one (or more) would enter the Uefa Cup each year. Plus of course more teams entered, so the winners had to negotiate more rounds to win the competition than the European Cup. That is why we were, without doubt, the best club team in Europe in 1980-81.

All this talk of massive clubs on 11:04 - Jun 8 with 2787 views

farkenhell

All this talk of massive clubs on 09:31 - Jun 8 by Sharkey

I remember listening to the, ahem, wireless, when Newport County played the eloquently names Carl Zeiss Jena (from East Germany) in the quarter finals. They had drawn the first leg in Germany and the home leg was on R2 Midweek Sport Special. From the commentary, Newport completely outplayed CZJ and for a long time, it looked like they would be reaching the semi-final. As you can imagine, Alan Parry was on fine form that night.

I didn't realise until glancing at your link that CZJ beat Roma and Valencia in previous rounds that year. Puts Newport's achievement into some sort of perspective.

All this talk of massive clubs on 11:12 - Jun 8 with 2754 views

Herbivore

We certainly aren't a massive club, or even a big club. We punched above our weight and won three major trophies in a twenty year spell but before that we weren't up to much and since then we've spent more time in the second and third tiers than in the top flight. I've been going to Town games for 34 years and we've only had 5 seasons in the top division in that time. That's not the record of a big club, and in terms of things like fan base we're alongside a whole raft of similar size clubs whose natural level is probably the second tier but with the ability to punch above our weight from time to time. I don't think our haul of three major trophies, as amazing as it was for us to achieve them, is something we can dine off forever.

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All this talk of massive clubs on 11:13 - Jun 8 with 2746 views

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All this talk of massive clubs on 10:28 - Jun 8 by Pinewoodblue
Colchester at Wembley.

No, I think that was only twenty-something thousand, each time. (Colchester's record attendance was in 2019, away at Old Trafford in the League Cup quarter-final. 55,000 or so, I think)

But this Essex team had much bigger, as big as any crowd Town has played in front of, I think. (I could be wrong.)

All this talk of massive clubs on 11:14 - Jun 8 with 2740 views

Pique

All this talk of massive clubs on 08:03 - Jun 8 by bluelagos
I'll guess Villa Man U Spurs Forrest Liverpool Arsenal Everton Newcastle Chelsea Edit. Scrub Forest, not won the Fa cup....so one short [Post edited 8 Jun 2023 8:05]

Forest have won the FA Cup twice.

All this talk of massive clubs on 11:16 - Jun 8 with 2716 views

Sharkey

All this talk of massive clubs on 10:39 - Jun 8 by DJR
I always thought the UEFA Cup was the most difficult to win, because, although it didn't have the previous season's league winners, it had the next three or so in the big leagues some of whom were more likely to be doing well than the previous season's league winners.

Town certainly beat some star-studded teams, but if Alkmaar had won the final it would have been hard to argue they'd had a tougher run than Liverpool had in the European Cup.

All this talk of massive clubs on 11:20 - Jun 8 with 2698 views

MattinLondon

All this talk of massive clubs on 08:32 - Jun 8 by Tangledupin_Blue

[Post edited 8 Jun 2023 8:33]

That’s the thing - posters on here have labelled a side like Bournemouth as ‘tinpot’ but their recent history is a lot more successful than what ours is.

Going back in time, if social media was around in the early 60s, Ipswich world have been seen by some as a tinpot club in comparison to Blackburn and Burnley.

Football evolves quickly - much more so than its fans who hark back to days long long gone when their club happened to be big and won stuff.

All this talk of massive clubs on 12:18 - Jun 8 with 2609 views

Illinoisblue

Utter nonsense. We’ve never been massive and never will be. And that’s just fine.

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All this talk of massive clubs on 12:47 - Jun 8 with 2551 views

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All this talk of massive clubs on 12:18 - Jun 8 by Illinoisblue
Utter nonsense. We’ve never been massive and never will be. And that’s just fine.

This ‘massive club’ stuff does my head in. Sheffield Wednesday are parroting that stuff and it’s just sad - especially as last years gates were less than ours. They were mocking Barnsley about the size of their support and it was both pathetic and irrelevant.

The few hundred that followed their team to PR last season were just as passionate as supporters of any other club, large or small.

We are a medium sized club. We have a good catchment area and scope to grow to a limited degree. But we are never going to draw the crowds of Newcastle, Sunderland, the Manchester and London clubs plus Villa. It’s not going to happen. And who the heck cares. We are what we are and that’s more than enough for me.

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