| Cricket Day Four 11:28 - Jul 1 with 4067 views | gainsboroughblue |
As much as he may hate it, Stokes may just have to settle for draw at best here.
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| Cricket Day Four on 18:13 - Jul 1 with 1619 views | BloomBlue |
| Cricket Day Four on 17:50 - Jul 1 by Samuelowen88 |
Ohs dear oh dear. Where do we go from here |
Try and avoid a whitewash |  | | |
| Cricket Day Four on 18:57 - Jul 1 with 1566 views | gainsboroughblue |
Classic jinxing from Aggers.
5 down. Goodnight.
Edit. Scrub that. Ball grounded! [Post edited 1 Jul 2023 18:58]
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| Cricket Day Four on 19:00 - Jul 1 with 1557 views | Plums |
| Cricket Day Four on 18:57 - Jul 1 by gainsboroughblue |
Classic jinxing from Aggers.
5 down. Goodnight.
Edit. Scrub that. Ball grounded! [Post edited 1 Jul 2023 18:58]
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Amazing that they even tried to claim that! |  |
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| Cricket Day Four on 19:00 - Jul 1 with 1556 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Cricket Day Four on 19:00 - Jul 1 by Plums |
Amazing that they even tried to claim that! |
McGrath spitting feathers on TMS. You love to hear it. | |
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| Cricket Day Four on 19:13 - Jul 1 with 1522 views | Chrisd |
| Cricket Day Four on 19:00 - Jul 1 by gainsboroughblue |
McGrath spitting feathers on TMS. You love to hear it. |
I tend to agree with McGrath. Starc had that catch under control, that’s out for me all day long. |  |
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| Cricket Day Four on 19:13 - Jul 1 with 1521 views | rkc123 |
| Cricket Day Four on 19:00 - Jul 1 by Plums |
Amazing that they even tried to claim that! |
He obviously felt he was in control of it though, I think he just put his hand down as it was an easier way to fall than going down to his elbows; of course that is the point of the law though, as going down to his elbows could have knocked the ball loose. I can see why Stark claimed it, to him that catch is done before he even touches the ground, but I think not out is correct. | | | |
| Cricket Day Four on 19:48 - Jul 1 with 1470 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Cricket Day Four on 19:13 - Jul 1 by rkc123 |
He obviously felt he was in control of it though, I think he just put his hand down as it was an easier way to fall than going down to his elbows; of course that is the point of the law though, as going down to his elbows could have knocked the ball loose. I can see why Stark claimed it, to him that catch is done before he even touches the ground, but I think not out is correct. |
He literally landed with it on the ground and slid it along under his hands... | | | |
| Cricket Day Four on 19:49 - Jul 1 with 1467 views | Samuelowen88 |
| Cricket Day Four on 19:13 - Jul 1 by Chrisd |
I tend to agree with McGrath. Starc had that catch under control, that’s out for me all day long. |
Makes up for the one from yesterday |  |
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| Cricket Day Four on 20:50 - Jul 1 with 1428 views | Ftnfwest |
| Cricket Day Four on 19:13 - Jul 1 by Chrisd |
I tend to agree with McGrath. Starc had that catch under control, that’s out for me all day long. |
Not by the letter of the law which states the ball has to be under control for the whole motion of the catch and body movement. Plus the blindingly obvious law which states if it touches the ground it’s not actually a catch. Otherwise every catch there’s ever been that popped out of a fielders hand when he impacted the ground was actually out.
If Starcs motion had carried him over the boundary it would have been a 4 or 6 regardless of whether he was considered to have control or not.
so not out.
If I were McGrath I’d be more mad at starc who could have easily got both hands around the ball but pulled his right hand away for some reason. |  | | |
| Cricket Day Four on 21:00 - Jul 1 with 1402 views | Chrisd |
| Cricket Day Four on 20:50 - Jul 1 by Ftnfwest |
Not by the letter of the law which states the ball has to be under control for the whole motion of the catch and body movement. Plus the blindingly obvious law which states if it touches the ground it’s not actually a catch. Otherwise every catch there’s ever been that popped out of a fielders hand when he impacted the ground was actually out.
If Starcs motion had carried him over the boundary it would have been a 4 or 6 regardless of whether he was considered to have control or not.
so not out.
If I were McGrath I’d be more mad at starc who could have easily got both hands around the ball but pulled his right hand away for some reason. |
That maybe true, but it serves to highlight the law is an ass. Let’s be fair, we could all see he clearly caught the ball and had it under control. It still won’t make any difference to the outcome, the Aussies have put too many on the board to chase down. | |
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| Cricket Day Four on 21:27 - Jul 1 with 1386 views | Ftnfwest |
| Cricket Day Four on 21:00 - Jul 1 by Chrisd |
That maybe true, but it serves to highlight the law is an ass. Let’s be fair, we could all see he clearly caught the ball and had it under control. It still won’t make any difference to the outcome, the Aussies have put too many on the board to chase down. |
He dragged it along the ground while still moving. My reaction if the roles were reversed would have been along the lines of ‘you bl**dy idiot!’ Rather than what a great catch. Of course they’ll win anyway which will stop them sulking for five minutes with a bit of luck | | | |
| Cricket Day Four on 21:57 - Jul 1 with 1367 views | Chrisd |
| Cricket Day Four on 21:27 - Jul 1 by Ftnfwest |
He dragged it along the ground while still moving. My reaction if the roles were reversed would have been along the lines of ‘you bl**dy idiot!’ Rather than what a great catch. Of course they’ll win anyway which will stop them sulking for five minutes with a bit of luck |
That ball was in his hand long enough to show it was catch and it was under control. If the shoe was on the other foot, there would be a lot of bleating and moaning. England got away with that, after yet another daft shot selection by one of our batsman. | |
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| Cricket Day Four on 22:08 - Jul 1 with 1332 views | Ftnfwest |
| Cricket Day Four on 21:57 - Jul 1 by Chrisd |
That ball was in his hand long enough to show it was catch and it was under control. If the shoe was on the other foot, there would be a lot of bleating and moaning. England got away with that, after yet another daft shot selection by one of our batsman. |
Probably a tenth of a second yes so fair enough. If it had popped out when he hit the ground it would have still been out as well. | | | |
| Cricket Day Four on 22:17 - Jul 1 with 1324 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Cricket Day Four on 21:00 - Jul 1 by Chrisd |
That maybe true, but it serves to highlight the law is an ass. Let’s be fair, we could all see he clearly caught the ball and had it under control. It still won’t make any difference to the outcome, the Aussies have put too many on the board to chase down. |
Under control, but on the ground..... | | | |
| Cricket Day Four on 08:19 - Jul 2 with 1233 views | rkc123 |
| Cricket Day Four on 19:48 - Jul 1 by redrickstuhaart |
He literally landed with it on the ground and slid it along under his hands... |
I agree that it was the right decision ultimately, but if we're being pedantic the fact he slid the ball along the ground like that if anything showed he was in control of it and had it well in his grasp, for if he hadn't then the sliding of the ball along the ground would have caused him to fumble it. Unfortunately I can't see it making a huge difference, but if we did somehow pull off this chase the fury of the Aussie's would be a beautiful thing to enjoy. | | | |
| Cricket Day Four on 08:41 - Jul 2 with 1217 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Cricket Day Four on 08:19 - Jul 2 by rkc123 |
I agree that it was the right decision ultimately, but if we're being pedantic the fact he slid the ball along the ground like that if anything showed he was in control of it and had it well in his grasp, for if he hadn't then the sliding of the ball along the ground would have caused him to fumble it. Unfortunately I can't see it making a huge difference, but if we did somehow pull off this chase the fury of the Aussie's would be a beautiful thing to enjoy. |
I think that if you are using the ground to control it, and sliding the ball on the ground to control your landing, it would be bizarre to say you had caught it without it touching the ground... | | | |
| Cricket Day Four on 09:10 - Jul 2 with 1205 views | Samuelowen88 |
Tuffers just trying not to laugh at Glen's reaction in brilliant 🤣
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| Cricket Day Four on 09:24 - Jul 2 with 1191 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Cricket Day Four on 09:10 - Jul 2 by Samuelowen88 |
Tuffers just trying not to laugh at Glen's reaction in brilliant 🤣
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I looked at the rules. Its absolutely clear when you apply them correctly.
"The striker is out Caught if a ball delivered by the bowler, ..... and is subsequently **held by a fielder as a fair catch**, as described in 33.2 and 33.3, before it touches the ground."
"The act of making a catch shall start from the time when the ball first comes into contact with a fielder’s person and shall end when a fielder obtains complete control over both the ball **and his/her own movement.**"
So he has to have complete control over the ball and his own movement before it touches the ground. A person sliding along the ground clearly doesnt have control over his own movement.
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| Cricket Day Four on 10:31 - Jul 2 with 1150 views | Whos_blue |
| Cricket Day Four on 17:50 - Jul 1 by Samuelowen88 |
Ohs dear oh dear. Where do we go from here |
Is it down to the lake I fear? |  |
| Distortion becomes somehow pure in its wildness. |
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| Cricket Day Four on 10:33 - Jul 2 with 1147 views | Chrisd |
| Cricket Day Four on 10:31 - Jul 2 by Whos_blue |
Is it down to the lake I fear? |
Ay ay ay ay ay ah, Ay ay ay ay ay ah…. | |
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