| Heck of a game of rugby 22:07 - Oct 14 with 3486 views | the_toff |
Pretty pleased to see NZ win. For a nation that’s never got past a World Cup 1/4 final Ireland don’t half believe their own hype a bit much.
Dancing around on the pitch to the Cranberries after winning your opening group game looks a bit silly now. |  | | |  |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 22:47 - Oct 14 with 3358 views | Chrisd |
Felt Ireland weren’t quite up to their usual high standard tonight, but credit to NZ they were back to their imperious best, so clinical. Thought it was a terrific QF between two heavyweights. Looking forward to tomorrow’s games. What are the odds on an all semi finalists being from the Southern Hemisphere? | |
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| Heck of a game of rugby on 22:58 - Oct 14 with 3331 views | the_toff |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 22:47 - Oct 14 by Chrisd |
Felt Ireland weren’t quite up to their usual high standard tonight, but credit to NZ they were back to their imperious best, so clinical. Thought it was a terrific QF between two heavyweights. Looking forward to tomorrow’s games. What are the odds on an all semi finalists being from the Southern Hemisphere? |
Hard to know if it was Ireland falling a little short or NZ just being so good. Their defence was incredible and discipline largely on point (odd saying that after 2 yellow cards). Either way that game was worthy of being the final and I feel the winner of it was going to win the tournament. South Africa or France might put up a fight though.
Every chance of a Fiji and SA double tomorrow. Both those games are close to call. Depends which Fiji turns up as they ripped England apart at twickenham in the summer but have also looked poor at times this World Cup. France have flair but are perennial bottle jobs and SA will do what SA so with a huge pack, not a style that’s easy on the eye but they know how to win big games. | | | |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 22:59 - Oct 14 with 3328 views | Enigma_Blue |
Ireland have massively underachieved in WC's particularly the past 20 years given the players they have had, but they are ranked number 1 in the world and NZ had to massively raise their game to beat them.
It was a fantastic game of rugby though and a great advertisement for the WC. [Post edited 14 Oct 2023 23:00]
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| Heck of a game of rugby on 23:14 - Oct 14 with 3282 views | the_toff |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 22:59 - Oct 14 by Enigma_Blue |
Ireland have massively underachieved in WC's particularly the past 20 years given the players they have had, but they are ranked number 1 in the world and NZ had to massively raise their game to beat them.
It was a fantastic game of rugby though and a great advertisement for the WC. [Post edited 14 Oct 2023 23:00]
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NZ played very well but I wouldn’t say they raised their game. They’ve been criminally overlooked by the media here despite their red hot form. I’ve sensed some over confidence among Ireland fans so I quite enjoyed seeing them humbled tonight.
Ireland were playing against 14 for 25% of the game and still couldn’t take them. Of course going out in the 1/4’s is down to the draw as much as anything on this occasion, but if you’re going to win a World Cup you need to beat the best at some stage.
Agree it was a great game. It always promised to be and more than delivered, top level sport at its best. | | | |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 23:43 - Oct 14 with 3226 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 23:14 - Oct 14 by the_toff |
NZ played very well but I wouldn’t say they raised their game. They’ve been criminally overlooked by the media here despite their red hot form. I’ve sensed some over confidence among Ireland fans so I quite enjoyed seeing them humbled tonight.
Ireland were playing against 14 for 25% of the game and still couldn’t take them. Of course going out in the 1/4’s is down to the draw as much as anything on this occasion, but if you’re going to win a World Cup you need to beat the best at some stage.
Agree it was a great game. It always promised to be and more than delivered, top level sport at its best. |
Ireland would have won if had managed the maul from the lineout better. Very small margin in this one and NZ had to play out of their skin to win so I think you might be a tad biased in your assessment. We did beat the current world champions and France will beat New Zealand again in the Final. We were below par in the tight and New Zealand deserved to win but enjoy your gloating. |  | | |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 00:12 - Oct 15 with 3184 views | the_toff |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 23:43 - Oct 14 by Eireannach_gorm |
Ireland would have won if had managed the maul from the lineout better. Very small margin in this one and NZ had to play out of their skin to win so I think you might be a tad biased in your assessment. We did beat the current world champions and France will beat New Zealand again in the Final. We were below par in the tight and New Zealand deserved to win but enjoy your gloating. |
I’m not gloating, no real skin in this game. Definite fine lines, it was incredibly close, I just think if you want to be regarded as the best in the world there comes a point where you need to go and demonstrate it on the biggest stage. Should haves and would haves doesn’t cut it. Ireland fans have been crowing for a long time about their dominance but have little to show for it by way of World Cup exploits, and against a side that had 2 yellow cards it feels like a bit of a bottle job again. | | | |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 00:19 - Oct 15 with 3177 views | Perublue |
Incredible 8 quarter finals in a row....they are the equivalent of the South African cricket team me thinks.
To be fair though for the majority of the last near 40 years of World cup rugby Ireland were not really that good. [Post edited 15 Oct 2023 0:19]
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| Heck of a game of rugby on 09:03 - Oct 15 with 2956 views | DJR |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 23:43 - Oct 14 by Eireannach_gorm |
Ireland would have won if had managed the maul from the lineout better. Very small margin in this one and NZ had to play out of their skin to win so I think you might be a tad biased in your assessment. We did beat the current world champions and France will beat New Zealand again in the Final. We were below par in the tight and New Zealand deserved to win but enjoy your gloating. |
Really sorry for you and your team, but there's something not right with the seedings when the best four nations in World rugby meet each other in the quarter finals, and, speaking selfishly, when the fifth seed (Scotland) ends up in a group with the first and third seeds.
As it is, yesterday's game goes to prove that there isn't any sport with as much drama and gut-wrenching tension as international rugby at its highest level. [Post edited 15 Oct 2023 9:07]
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| Heck of a game of rugby on 09:20 - Oct 15 with 2915 views | MattinLondon |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 09:03 - Oct 15 by DJR |
Really sorry for you and your team, but there's something not right with the seedings when the best four nations in World rugby meet each other in the quarter finals, and, speaking selfishly, when the fifth seed (Scotland) ends up in a group with the first and third seeds.
As it is, yesterday's game goes to prove that there isn't any sport with as much drama and gut-wrenching tension as international rugby at its highest level. [Post edited 15 Oct 2023 9:07]
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Apart from most other international sports. |  | | |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 09:26 - Oct 15 with 2903 views | Darth_Koont |
To be fair, in rugby at least, the world ranking shows how good a side are over a number of years. And this is where they’re predominantly playing the other best teams in the world with the odd training game against middle-ranking sides and pretty much no games against minnows unless it’s the World Cup.
Ireland fully deserved their number one ranking. And not reaching a WC semi-final is a bit of an anomaly but not much considering it’s only in the last 10 years that Ireland have been beating the Southern hemisphere nations to be enough of a challenger.
It’s also important to note that the top 5 sides were all on the same side of the draw to this point, so 3 of Ireland, South Africa, New Zealand, France and Scotland were never going to make the semis from the start. |  |
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| Heck of a game of rugby on 09:27 - Oct 15 with 2897 views | DJR |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 09:20 - Oct 15 by MattinLondon |
Apart from most other international sports. |
We can obviously agree to disagree, but I think it's the physicality that adds to the tension, and the fact that when scores are close it only requires one score to turn a winning team into a losing team which only adds to the drama and nerves. | | | |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 09:30 - Oct 15 with 2880 views | Tractorboy24 |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 09:03 - Oct 15 by DJR |
Really sorry for you and your team, but there's something not right with the seedings when the best four nations in World rugby meet each other in the quarter finals, and, speaking selfishly, when the fifth seed (Scotland) ends up in a group with the first and third seeds.
As it is, yesterday's game goes to prove that there isn't any sport with as much drama and gut-wrenching tension as international rugby at its highest level. [Post edited 15 Oct 2023 9:07]
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Seedings are done very early in the WC cycle, but I’m not sure much can be done to mitigate from good or bad. The other side of it is that the world rankings from now will probably affect the next WC draw, so Scotland will likely be second seeds and could end up with a plumb draw.
As someone has mentioned, to win a WC you have to beat the top sides at some point, whether that’s at QF/SF/Final. |  | | |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 09:35 - Oct 15 with 2858 views | DJR |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 09:30 - Oct 15 by Tractorboy24 |
Seedings are done very early in the WC cycle, but I’m not sure much can be done to mitigate from good or bad. The other side of it is that the world rankings from now will probably affect the next WC draw, so Scotland will likely be second seeds and could end up with a plumb draw.
As someone has mentioned, to win a WC you have to beat the top sides at some point, whether that’s at QF/SF/Final. |
But it undoubtedly makes it easier if the draw is less harsh to a particular team, and I think the viewer/spectator misses out without the possibility of a semi-final involving the top four sides. [Post edited 15 Oct 2023 11:09]
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| Heck of a game of rugby on 10:44 - Oct 15 with 2788 views | Guthrum |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 23:43 - Oct 14 by Eireannach_gorm |
Ireland would have won if had managed the maul from the lineout better. Very small margin in this one and NZ had to play out of their skin to win so I think you might be a tad biased in your assessment. We did beat the current world champions and France will beat New Zealand again in the Final. We were below par in the tight and New Zealand deserved to win but enjoy your gloating. |
I reckon the loss was mainly down to Porter repeatedly not driving straight in the scrum. Without those penalties/lost opportunities earlier in the game, it would, IMO, have been even closer. Ireland may have been ahead or, at worst, within a drop-goal in the last minutes.
Fantastic game of rugby, tho. And incredibly clean in terms of personal (rather than technical) fouls. |  |
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| Heck of a game of rugby on 11:24 - Oct 15 with 2740 views | the_toff |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 10:44 - Oct 15 by Guthrum |
I reckon the loss was mainly down to Porter repeatedly not driving straight in the scrum. Without those penalties/lost opportunities earlier in the game, it would, IMO, have been even closer. Ireland may have been ahead or, at worst, within a drop-goal in the last minutes.
Fantastic game of rugby, tho. And incredibly clean in terms of personal (rather than technical) fouls. |
He didn’t help, but NZ played him like a fiddle in that respect.
I thought Irelands decision making was poor, especially inside the NZ 22. The amount of times they tried the Hollywood pass or kick on the 3rd or 4th phase was frustrating. A couple of massive get out of jail cards served up at the wrong times. Gibson-Park was guilty on more than 1 occasion and I would’ve preferred to see Ireland keep the ball in hand and work through the phases more. Especially as for 20 minutes of the game they had the man advantage and didn’t capitalise. NZ defence was stubborn but I think Ireland played in to their hands at times. A golden opportunity to not just progress past the 1/4’s but win the whole thing has passed them by again.
Looking forward to tonight’s game. Clash of styles in France & South Africa but should be an interesting watch. | | | |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 11:51 - Oct 15 with 2697 views | Darth_Koont |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 11:24 - Oct 15 by the_toff |
He didn’t help, but NZ played him like a fiddle in that respect.
I thought Irelands decision making was poor, especially inside the NZ 22. The amount of times they tried the Hollywood pass or kick on the 3rd or 4th phase was frustrating. A couple of massive get out of jail cards served up at the wrong times. Gibson-Park was guilty on more than 1 occasion and I would’ve preferred to see Ireland keep the ball in hand and work through the phases more. Especially as for 20 minutes of the game they had the man advantage and didn’t capitalise. NZ defence was stubborn but I think Ireland played in to their hands at times. A golden opportunity to not just progress past the 1/4’s but win the whole thing has passed them by again.
Looking forward to tonight’s game. Clash of styles in France & South Africa but should be an interesting watch. |
Think the decision-making in the NZ 22 was more a testament to the NZ defence and Ireland’s inability to turn their usual dominance in possession into points and tries. It was exceptionally tight and you had to make and take your chances rather than rely on the usual reward of multi-phase pressure opening up space.
I thought Sexton in particular made some poor choices to kick in behind and seemed to be missing his usual clinical edge. But that’s in a game where the usual space just wasn’t opening up. | |
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| Heck of a game of rugby on 12:04 - Oct 15 with 2666 views | Radlett_blue |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 22:59 - Oct 14 by Enigma_Blue |
Ireland have massively underachieved in WC's particularly the past 20 years given the players they have had, but they are ranked number 1 in the world and NZ had to massively raise their game to beat them.
It was a fantastic game of rugby though and a great advertisement for the WC. [Post edited 14 Oct 2023 23:00]
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Indeed, two thrilling quarter finals, after the lengthy tedium of the group stage, largely involving one sided games against minnows. But that's long been the case in rugby, with only a handful of sides being properly competitive. |  |
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| Heck of a game of rugby on 13:30 - Oct 15 with 2597 views | RadioOrwell |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 10:44 - Oct 15 by Guthrum |
I reckon the loss was mainly down to Porter repeatedly not driving straight in the scrum. Without those penalties/lost opportunities earlier in the game, it would, IMO, have been even closer. Ireland may have been ahead or, at worst, within a drop-goal in the last minutes.
Fantastic game of rugby, tho. And incredibly clean in terms of personal (rather than technical) fouls. |
Yes - Porter was told multiple times about the scrum. No excuse.
Ireland was a Kiwi arse cheek away from a try at the very end which would probably have won it.
Yet multiple internet clowns going on about bottling it.
Wonderful game but as a plastic paddy it was too stressful to enjoy.
Todays matches will be fun cos I don't care who wins. |  | | |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 14:08 - Oct 15 with 2558 views | cressi |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 13:30 - Oct 15 by RadioOrwell |
Yes - Porter was told multiple times about the scrum. No excuse.
Ireland was a Kiwi arse cheek away from a try at the very end which would probably have won it.
Yet multiple internet clowns going on about bottling it.
Wonderful game but as a plastic paddy it was too stressful to enjoy.
Todays matches will be fun cos I don't care who wins. |
Forgot what side of the draw you are on if your the best you will beat whoever in front of you.
Same goes in all sports England in the football World Cup as soon as we meet a good side we have lost be it semi or final although I blame the manager for that. | | | |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 15:42 - Oct 15 with 2470 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Heck of a game of rugby on 14:08 - Oct 15 by cressi |
Forgot what side of the draw you are on if your the best you will beat whoever in front of you.
Same goes in all sports England in the football World Cup as soon as we meet a good side we have lost be it semi or final although I blame the manager for that. |
I like the way you’ve simultaneously argued that having an easier draw doesn’t matter, but also that England have only gone deep in recent tournaments due to not having an easier draw |  |
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