| Great Players, good managers. 11:12 - Oct 30 with 4267 views | GeoffSentence |
Prompted by this line in an EADT article about Harness that ended up reflecting on our upcoming game with Brum
"Great players don’t make good managers. Fact. "
I was wondering is that true? Sweeping statements like that are often bollox and I reckon this might be one of them. Of course it depends on who you inlcude as a 'great players', Sir Alf and Sir Bob were both international players, but would you call them 'great players' for instance.
Anyhow, I reckon Johan Cruyff at least proves that statement to be guff. Undeniably a great player and has massive success as manager of Barca.
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| Great Players, good managers. on 12:44 - Oct 30 with 866 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Beckenbauer and Zoff won the World Cup as players and managers. Kevin Keegan and Klinsman made good managers while their hearts were in it.
The point is surely that you don’t need to have been a good player to be a good manager |  |
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| Great Players, good managers. on 12:49 - Oct 30 with 842 views | Steve_M |
| Great Players, good managers. on 12:36 - Oct 30 by DanTheMan |
Zagallo, won the World Cup as both a player and manager.
Depending on your definition of great, Mancini and Simeone as well.
Another one, Deschamps as well. [Post edited 30 Oct 2023 12:41]
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Beckenbauer did too. |  |
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| Great Players, good managers. on 12:50 - Oct 30 with 848 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Great Players, good managers. on 12:44 - Oct 30 by ElephantintheRoom |
Beckenbauer and Zoff won the World Cup as players and managers. Kevin Keegan and Klinsman made good managers while their hearts were in it.
The point is surely that you don’t need to have been a good player to be a good manager |
There's also the other dimension of course, with the likes of David Wagner who neither had glittering playing careers or seem particularly adept at management. |  | | |
| Great Players, good managers. on 12:54 - Oct 30 with 839 views | gordon |
Think it's more that great players, even those patently unsuited for management and without ever really demonstrated an aptitude for tactical thinking etc, are likely to still get quite a few chances to manage at relatively good clubs, e.g. Keane, Gerrard, Rooney etc. So there are going to be lots of examples of high profile failure amongst top players. They don't fail because they were great players though.
While for the likes of McKenna, Potter, Wenger, Ten Hag, Mourinho, Klopp etc to get equally high profile jobs, they have to have worked incredibly hard over a sustained period of time on coaching, tactics etc etc, putting them potentially in a better position to succeed - though they all basically fail in the end. |  | | |
| Great Players, good managers. on 12:55 - Oct 30 with 830 views | Wacko |
| Great Players, good managers. on 11:22 - Oct 30 by nodge_blue |
Hoddle maybe.
I do think most great players don't become great managers. Bryan Robson. Roy Keane. Steve Gerrard. Bobby Charlton. |
I think the point is that most players (good or bad) don’t become good managers. Now that the myth of “you have to play football to know football” has been shattered, there will be more and more people from all walks of life showing aptitude for this kind of role | |
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| Great Players, good managers. on 13:00 - Oct 30 with 819 views | PhilTWTD |
| Great Players, good managers. on 12:38 - Oct 30 by TractorCam |
Both mentioned in the OP. |
Ah yes, ignore me! |  | | |
| Great Players, good managers. on 13:04 - Oct 30 with 814 views | Beattie78 |
Zinedine Zidane |  |
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| Great Players, good managers. on 13:04 - Oct 30 with 812 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Great Players, good managers. on 11:55 - Oct 30 by LeoMuff |
Clough, Capello, Ferguson, Klinsmann |
Klinsmann? |  | | |
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| Great Players, good managers. on 13:15 - Oct 30 with 783 views | blueasfook |
| Great Players, good managers. on 12:50 - Oct 30 by _clive_baker_ |
There's also the other dimension of course, with the likes of David Wagner who neither had glittering playing careers or seem particularly adept at management. |
Leave Wagner alone! He's doing a fantastic job at Norwich. I love him. |  |
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| Great Players, good managers. on 13:20 - Oct 30 with 777 views | blueasfook |
| Great Players, good managers. on 13:04 - Oct 30 by Beattie78 |
Zinedine Zidane |
You have to say he's a great manager if you don't want to get headbutted. | |
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| Great Players, good managers. on 14:00 - Oct 30 with 747 views | HalifaxBlue |
| Great Players, good managers. on 13:20 - Oct 30 by blueasfook |
You have to say he's a great manager if you don't want to get headbutted. |
Xabi Alonso is about to be one of the best in the world.
Ancelotti and Zidane are interesting examples in that they have both had tremendous success with pragmatism and a focus on relationships and man-management rather than playing identity, something a world-class ex-pro would certainly have an advantage in. |  |
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| Great Players, good managers. on 14:03 - Oct 30 with 742 views | SE1blue |
| Great Players, good managers. on 12:43 - Oct 30 by DanTheMan |
Paul Ince, Gary Neville. |
Graeme Sounness and Gordon Strachan. |  |
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