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'Earlier, Israel’s government approved “phase one” of a ceasefire agreement, which will see captives exchanged and Israel withdraw from parts of Gaza, but details of how it fits into a wider plan to bring lasting peace remain unclear.' https://www.aljazeera.com/news
Not the end, not even the beginning of the end but, for goodness sake, let us hope that it is the end of the beginning.
Will the killing stop ? on 09:55 - Oct 10 by WeWereZombies
'Earlier, Israel’s government approved “phase one” of a ceasefire agreement, which will see captives exchanged and Israel withdraw from parts of Gaza, but details of how it fits into a wider plan to bring lasting peace remain unclear.' https://www.aljazeera.com/news
Not the end, not even the beginning of the end but, for goodness sake, let us hope that it is the end of the beginning.
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[Post edited 10 Oct 2025 17:09]
Interesting extracts from an article on the Sky News website which appear to reflect this.
"Satellite imagery reveals 90% of IDF bases in Gaza will be allowed to remain under deal
Out of 40 observed bases active since late September, only four sit beyond the line of withdrawal and will therefore need to be vacated. The remaining 90% will be allowed to remain in place.
Once the IDF has completed its withdrawal to this line, Hamas will have 72 hours to complete the handover of all remaining hostages.
Further negotiations are then expected to lead to a further withdrawal, though the timeline for this is less clear."
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Will the killing stop ? on 17:17 - Oct 10 with 1467 views
Will the killing stop ? on 09:55 - Oct 10 by WeWereZombies
'Earlier, Israel’s government approved “phase one” of a ceasefire agreement, which will see captives exchanged and Israel withdraw from parts of Gaza, but details of how it fits into a wider plan to bring lasting peace remain unclear.' https://www.aljazeera.com/news
Not the end, not even the beginning of the end but, for goodness sake, let us hope that it is the end of the beginning.
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[Post edited 10 Oct 2025 17:09]
I guess not much comment on this so far because we're all holding our breath :
“We’ve identified seven members of an anti-Islamic biker gang who oversaw security teams at aid sites for starving Palestinians, run by the controversial Gaza Humanitarian Foundation”
And who videod themselves wearing red baseball caps with logos “Make Gaza Great Again”, posted those clips and others of their work in Gaza on sm, and then used them to upsell the caps and other items in their ‘catalogue’…
Still room left to be shocked, even after everything.
“We’ve identified seven members of an anti-Islamic biker gang who oversaw security teams at aid sites for starving Palestinians, run by the controversial Gaza Humanitarian Foundation”
And who videod themselves wearing red baseball caps with logos “Make Gaza Great Again”, posted those clips and others of their work in Gaza on sm, and then used them to upsell the caps and other items in their ‘catalogue’…
Still room left to be shocked, even after everything.
There was this article about the GHF (Trump and Bibi's baby) in last Sunday's Observer which also mentioned the involvement of the biker gang although it didn't mention the upselling.
In late May, Aguilar filmed one of the UG Solutions contractors “shooting at an unarmed crowd of civilians who not only were unarmed and not a threat, but were actually walking away from us. Their backs turned to us as they walked away from the site, carrying their bags or their boxes of food, and he’s shooting into the crowd.”
In the video, the contractor then cheered. A contractor nearby added: “Damn, boy, I think you got one.”
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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 09:01 - Nov 3 with 1123 views
Leaving aside the estimated 10-14,000 bodies buried under the rubble, it is telling to read that the 61 million tonnes of debris is 20 times more than the combined mass of all debris generated by conflicts since 2008.
That's a lot of destruction in such a small area.
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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 12:17 - Feb 1 with 839 views
Rather than create a new thread, I thought it worth highlighting three things relating to the occupied territories that appear to have been rather overshadowed in the last couple of days.
"British activist Peter Tatchell arrested for carrying 'intifada' placard
The 74-year-old campaigner said his arrest in central London amounted to "an attack on free speech"."
I would never in a million years use the slogan "globalise the intifada" because it is upsetting to many Jewish people, but what happened to Tatchell is clear mission creep, and speaking as a lawyer I don't think he has committed any offence at all. Indeed, I am sure no charges will follow. And without some proof of some antisemetic intent, I don't think there would be an offence, even if his placard didn't contains the words "Non-violent resistance".
It also worth pointing out that Tatchell was someone who was more than content to accept the IHRA definition of antisemitism, and took the view that it was possible to criticise what is going on in the occupied territories without breaching that definition.
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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 17:48 - Feb 1 with 768 views
Israel to ban MSF from working in Gaza over refusal to provide staff list
MSF said in a statement on Friday that it had informed Israeli authorities that, as an "exceptional measure", it would share a list of names of its Palestinian and international staff, "subject to clear parameters, with our staff safety at its core".
"However, despite repeated efforts, it became evident in recent days that we were unable to build engagement with Israeli authorities on the concrete assurances required," it said.
"These included that any staff information would be used only for its stated administrative purpose and would not put colleagues at risk."
Sam Rose, director of Gaza affairs for the UN's Palestinian refugee agency Unrwa, told the BBC that this will have "major negative consequences on the ability of international organisations to provide healthcare inside Gaza".
He said MSF had its own reasons for not handing over staff lists "given the large numbers of staff of medical organisations and international organisations that have been killed over the past two years".
A total of 1,700 healthcare staff have been killed in the war, including 15 MSF staff, the medical charity says.
MSF says it currently provides at least 20% of hospital beds in Gaza and operates around 20 health centres. Last year, it carried out more than 800,000 medical consultations and more than 10,000 infant deliveries, while providing drinking water.
Israel to ban MSF from working in Gaza over refusal to provide staff list
MSF said in a statement on Friday that it had informed Israeli authorities that, as an "exceptional measure", it would share a list of names of its Palestinian and international staff, "subject to clear parameters, with our staff safety at its core".
"However, despite repeated efforts, it became evident in recent days that we were unable to build engagement with Israeli authorities on the concrete assurances required," it said.
"These included that any staff information would be used only for its stated administrative purpose and would not put colleagues at risk."
Sam Rose, director of Gaza affairs for the UN's Palestinian refugee agency Unrwa, told the BBC that this will have "major negative consequences on the ability of international organisations to provide healthcare inside Gaza".
He said MSF had its own reasons for not handing over staff lists "given the large numbers of staff of medical organisations and international organisations that have been killed over the past two years".
A total of 1,700 healthcare staff have been killed in the war, including 15 MSF staff, the medical charity says.
MSF says it currently provides at least 20% of hospital beds in Gaza and operates around 20 health centres. Last year, it carried out more than 800,000 medical consultations and more than 10,000 infant deliveries, while providing drinking water.
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Go ahead, start a new thread. Multiple new threads are started all the time by people who want their posts seen - especially when the majority appear to have become jaded with existing threads.
And yes, you should make these posts a habit. When those that care stop voicing their opinions, the evil people committing this genocide and all that back them actively or tacitly win.
There is NO EXCUSE for GENOCIDE - ever.
Your efforts for keeping this topic alive are appreciated by many, not just here at TWTD but by the long-time supporters of the people of Palestine who have largely been forgotten by the world for decades.
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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 20:52 - Feb 1 with 655 views
Israel to ban MSF from working in Gaza over refusal to provide staff list
MSF said in a statement on Friday that it had informed Israeli authorities that, as an "exceptional measure", it would share a list of names of its Palestinian and international staff, "subject to clear parameters, with our staff safety at its core".
"However, despite repeated efforts, it became evident in recent days that we were unable to build engagement with Israeli authorities on the concrete assurances required," it said.
"These included that any staff information would be used only for its stated administrative purpose and would not put colleagues at risk."
Sam Rose, director of Gaza affairs for the UN's Palestinian refugee agency Unrwa, told the BBC that this will have "major negative consequences on the ability of international organisations to provide healthcare inside Gaza".
He said MSF had its own reasons for not handing over staff lists "given the large numbers of staff of medical organisations and international organisations that have been killed over the past two years".
A total of 1,700 healthcare staff have been killed in the war, including 15 MSF staff, the medical charity says.
MSF says it currently provides at least 20% of hospital beds in Gaza and operates around 20 health centres. Last year, it carried out more than 800,000 medical consultations and more than 10,000 infant deliveries, while providing drinking water.
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As a follow up, there is talk of the Rafah crossing opening after about 18 months, but it looks like access in an out will be severely restricted.
According to a Sky reports, there are 20,000 needing medical treatment and wanting to leave Gaza to get it.
Given that the Fourth Geneva Convention requires the occupying power (Israel) to provide or ensure adequate heath care, Israel has throughout the conflict been in breach of that rule of international law.
But this point never really gets mentioned, outside press releases by the UNWRA and the like.
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Gaza is mainly rubble it seems on 05:00 - Feb 2 with 596 views
How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 12:17 - Feb 1 by DJR
Rather than create a new thread, I thought it worth highlighting three things relating to the occupied territories that appear to have been rather overshadowed in the last couple of days.
"British activist Peter Tatchell arrested for carrying 'intifada' placard
The 74-year-old campaigner said his arrest in central London amounted to "an attack on free speech"."
I would never in a million years use the slogan "globalise the intifada" because it is upsetting to many Jewish people, but what happened to Tatchell is clear mission creep, and speaking as a lawyer I don't think he has committed any offence at all. Indeed, I am sure no charges will follow. And without some proof of some antisemetic intent, I don't think there would be an offence, even if his placard didn't contains the words "Non-violent resistance".
It also worth pointing out that Tatchell was someone who was more than content to accept the IHRA definition of antisemitism, and took the view that it was possible to criticise what is going on in the occupied territories without breaching that definition.
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If you have not already watched this episode of HARDtalk is worth a watch as the interview is with a UN official who has access to Gaza that is unavailable to the BBC:
Gaza is mainly rubble it seems on 05:00 - Feb 2 by WeWereZombies
If you have not already watched this episode of HARDtalk is worth a watch as the interview is with a UN official who has access to Gaza that is unavailable to the BBC:
Gaza is mainly rubble it seems on 08:57 - Feb 2 by DJR
It seems to me extraordinary that a supposed liberal democracy (Israel) has and will continue to ban foreign journalists.
The fact that no stink about this has been made by Western governments and Western media organisations reflects very badly on them all.
The fact that no stink about this has been made by Western governments and Western media organisations reflects very badly on them all.
Let's not beat around the bush here. For Western governments and Western media to condemn many of the State of Israel's actions at present to the extent that it is meaningful and might provoke change, would fall foul of the IHRA’s definition of antisemitism. That's why they don't make a stink about it.
Unfortunately, the IHRA’s non-legally binding, working definition of antisemitism is so weak that it means, at times, that the truth itself is antisemitic.
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Gaza is mainly rubble it seems on 16:33 - Feb 4 with 366 views
Gaza is mainly rubble it seems on 16:04 - Feb 4 by Cafe_Newman
The fact that no stink about this has been made by Western governments and Western media organisations reflects very badly on them all.
Let's not beat around the bush here. For Western governments and Western media to condemn many of the State of Israel's actions at present to the extent that it is meaningful and might provoke change, would fall foul of the IHRA’s definition of antisemitism. That's why they don't make a stink about it.
Unfortunately, the IHRA’s non-legally binding, working definition of antisemitism is so weak that it means, at times, that the truth itself is antisemitic.
Personally, I don't think the IHRA definition plays a part in this.
In my view, the main factor is that Israel is considered an ally, and allies tend not to criticise each other.
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Gaza is mainly rubble it seems on 16:48 - Feb 4 with 354 views
Gaza is mainly rubble it seems on 16:33 - Feb 4 by DJR
Personally, I don't think the IHRA definition plays a part in this.
In my view, the main factor is that Israel is considered an ally, and allies tend not to criticise each other.
That is the most acceptable public response to my post. I'm sure the upvotes / downvotes will also prove it to be the most popular public response too.
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Gaza is mainly rubble it seems on 17:26 - Feb 4 with 320 views
Gaza is mainly rubble it seems on 16:48 - Feb 4 by Cafe_Newman
That is the most acceptable public response to my post. I'm sure the upvotes / downvotes will also prove it to be the most popular public response too.
I'm not really holding my breath about any response given how little reaction there has been to what I've posted on this thread in the last couple of days.
Maybe people have just moved on from Gaza.
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Gaza is mainly rubble it seems on 17:32 - Feb 4 with 315 views
Gaza is mainly rubble it seems on 17:26 - Feb 4 by DJR
I'm not really holding my breath about any response given how little reaction there has been to what I've posted on this thread in the last couple of days.
Maybe people have just moved on from Gaza.
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Sadly, I think you're right. I appreciate your efforts at least.
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Gaza is mainly rubble it seems on 21:51 - Feb 4 with 255 views
Gaza is mainly rubble it seems on 17:26 - Feb 4 by DJR
I'm not really holding my breath about any response given how little reaction there has been to what I've posted on this thread in the last couple of days.
Maybe people have just moved on from Gaza.
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Start some new threads.
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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