| Elite level blubbing from Arsenal 21:11 - Nov 5 with 5063 views | Illinoisblue |
As if they’ve put out a club statement. What exactly was VAR supposed to overturn? Ball wasn’t out of play, and there was no foul.
Should have brought a striker instead of setting 65 million pounds on fire in the name of Kai Havertz.
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| Elite level blubbing from Arsenal on 10:12 - Nov 6 with 968 views | MattinLondon |
| Elite level blubbing from Arsenal on 07:35 - Nov 6 by bluejacko |
Exactly, the rest of the leagues get on fine without it so why is the premier league any different? And while their at it get Lino’s to put the flag up when the player is offside NOT ten minutes later😡 |
Putting the flag up later makes sense - if the decision is tight, if the flag goes up straightaway then a goal scoring opportunity could well have been lost. |  | | |
| Elite level blubbing from Arsenal on 10:13 - Nov 6 with 973 views | itfcjoe |
Just utterly embarrassing - and tries to link it to the Liverpool incident which was an actual total error that shouldn't have happened.
Clubs doing things like this gives oxygen to the nutters in fanbases who think there is a conspiracy or corruption against their club, as opposed to it just being a cock up (if you even think this was a cock up)
Was the ball totally definitively off the pitch so it could be overturned? No evidence to confirm
Was it a foul on Gabriel? Prob 50-50 on it, he should be stronger for me but couldn't complain if given
Was he offside? VAR couldn't do the angles (that is an issue and needs to be addressed) but as it stands you have to go with the officials
The PL should throw the book at Arteta for his post match comments, and at Arsenal for backing this up outside the heat of the moment |  |
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| Elite level blubbing from Arsenal on 10:15 - Nov 6 with 957 views | portmanroadblue |
| Elite level blubbing from Arsenal on 21:15 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Scrap Var.
Go back to how it was
Footballs always been controversial.. but it was better to be naturally controversial rather than bemoaning video replay decisions. |
Keep VAR sack off the incompetence behind it. |  | | |
| Elite level blubbing from Arsenal on 10:22 - Nov 6 with 934 views | bluejacko |
| Elite level blubbing from Arsenal on 10:12 - Nov 6 by MattinLondon |
Putting the flag up later makes sense - if the decision is tight, if the flag goes up straightaway then a goal scoring opportunity could well have been lost. |
If he is offside then the goal scoring opportunity doesn’t arise tight or not! And as been said it’s only a matter of time before a major injury occurs in the time before the flag goes up. |  | | |
| Pathetic stuff from Arteta and the club on 10:33 - Nov 6 with 928 views | Dyland |
Probably a foul, but not a clear and obvious one, or error for that matter.
The VAR operators are either really inept or corrupt. I don't think it's the latter by the way, but I can see how people's minds can make patterns that aren't actually there.
Guimarães was lucky not to get a yellow for clearly "elbowing" the Arsenal player as he ran past. It wasn't a hard strike and probs not a red, but he wasn't trying to get out of the way was he. He needs his temper reigning in.
VAR should be used only for goal line tech and once off sides can be determined in a similar fashion, automatically. Reviews are completely spoiling the game for fans. Take it to its logical conclusion and fans won't spontaneously celebrate goals when they go in. Yes I know it won't come to that, just making the point. |  |
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| Elite level blubbing from Arsenal on 11:03 - Nov 6 with 903 views | Garv |
| Elite level blubbing from Arsenal on 23:00 - Nov 5 by mylittletown |
Raya and Havertz would appear to be idiotic signings, especially given that Ramsdale could not have been regarded as a weakness last season.
Having said that, it was an obvious foul and how on earth the VAR people didn't give it is beyond me.
There is nothing wrong with VAR or the principle behind it, cf DRS in cricket. The problem is that it has shown up how poor the VAR operators are. You can't blame the ref for not seeing the foul at the far post, he missed it in real time only, but you can absolutely blame the people who saw the same replay as we did. |
A simple challenge to that is that the decision was subjective, like 90% of them.
The problem actually isn't the people operating it. The problem is the idea that there can be a 'right answer' for every decision.
In this case, I've seen probably a 50/50 split on who thinks it was a foul and who doesn't. |  |
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| Elite level blubbing from Arsenal on 11:11 - Nov 6 with 877 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Elite level blubbing from Arsenal on 11:03 - Nov 6 by Garv |
A simple challenge to that is that the decision was subjective, like 90% of them.
The problem actually isn't the people operating it. The problem is the idea that there can be a 'right answer' for every decision.
In this case, I've seen probably a 50/50 split on who thinks it was a foul and who doesn't. |
I'd agree on this occasion but I do think we've seen some absolute howlers this season that bring into question those operating the VAR, both in terms of competence and the way they are using the technology. The penalty given against Wolves this weekend is a clear example of that. Even the most die hard Sheff Utd fan couldn't keep a straight face and tell you that is a foul. Yet we have a VAR official and an on pitch official that maintain it was the right decision even after reviewing it. | | | |
| Elite level blubbing from Arsenal on 11:26 - Nov 6 with 841 views | portmanroadblue |
| Elite level blubbing from Arsenal on 11:03 - Nov 6 by Garv |
A simple challenge to that is that the decision was subjective, like 90% of them.
The problem actually isn't the people operating it. The problem is the idea that there can be a 'right answer' for every decision.
In this case, I've seen probably a 50/50 split on who thinks it was a foul and who doesn't. |
Its not subjective tho, both defenders hands are on the back of the striker using a pushing motion. | | | |
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| Elite level blubbing from Arsenal on 11:26 - Nov 6 with 841 views | MattinLondon |
| Elite level blubbing from Arsenal on 10:22 - Nov 6 by bluejacko |
If he is offside then the goal scoring opportunity doesn’t arise tight or not! And as been said it’s only a matter of time before a major injury occurs in the time before the flag goes up. |
Players can get injured at any point.
Your first sentence is irrelevant as the point of the offside flag being kept down is not to deny a goalscoring opportunity. | | | |
| Elite level blubbing from Arsenal on 11:27 - Nov 6 with 833 views | MattinLondon |
| Elite level blubbing from Arsenal on 11:26 - Nov 6 by portmanroadblue |
Its not subjective tho, both defenders hands are on the back of the striker using a pushing motion. |
It was a clear foul. Don’t understand why people can’t see it. | | | |
| Elite level blubbing from Arsenal on 16:38 - Nov 6 with 739 views | Radlett_blue |
| Elite level blubbing from Arsenal on 10:13 - Nov 6 by itfcjoe |
Just utterly embarrassing - and tries to link it to the Liverpool incident which was an actual total error that shouldn't have happened.
Clubs doing things like this gives oxygen to the nutters in fanbases who think there is a conspiracy or corruption against their club, as opposed to it just being a cock up (if you even think this was a cock up)
Was the ball totally definitively off the pitch so it could be overturned? No evidence to confirm
Was it a foul on Gabriel? Prob 50-50 on it, he should be stronger for me but couldn't complain if given
Was he offside? VAR couldn't do the angles (that is an issue and needs to be addressed) but as it stands you have to go with the officials
The PL should throw the book at Arteta for his post match comments, and at Arsenal for backing this up outside the heat of the moment |
Indeed, a preposterous, pompous statement from Arsenal. I assume they feel the need to back Arteta, despite his immature, emotional protests, maybe in the hope of getting him off an FA charge. Yes, the use of VAR is a mess but, as you say, clubs endorsing this sort of nonsense perpetuates the myth believed by some fans that there is either an FA conspiracy or that some referees are deliberately biased against their club. Referees do make mistakes & many are influenced by a hostile home crowd, but referees are understandably perturbed if they are accused of bias. |  |
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| Elite level blubbing from Arsenal on 17:39 - Nov 6 with 713 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
You can't blame Arsenal really, with all the VAR mistakes this season alone they've made the whole thing completely ambiguous. If I was a top flight manager I'd be contesting anything to do with VAR that was even slightly borderline.
PGMOL have literally done this to themselves.
It's ruining football, and the calls for major changes to it are only getting louder. |  |
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