| 100 days since 7/10 09:51 - Jan 14 with 4673 views | GlasgowBlue |
Release the hostages.
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| 100 days since 7/10 on 12:07 - Jan 15 with 1118 views | J2BLUE |
| 100 days since 7/10 on 11:59 - Jan 15 by NthQldITFC |
One could write a similarly one-sided, non-difficult solution from a Palestinian perspective, which would be equally ridiculous and offensive. |
Isn't that why we have Bankster?
Agree though, realism works both sides. Hamas will not surrender and Israel cannot punish innocent Gazans for the crimes of Hamas. This needs a negotiated settlement. Neither side can be expected to just give up because it won't happen.
I would support a temporary ceasefire so they could negotiate and hopefully it would become permanent. |  |
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| 100 days since 7/10 on 12:08 - Jan 15 with 1111 views | LeoMuff |
| 100 days since 7/10 on 10:59 - Jan 15 by blueasfook |
Release the hostage and surrender. Give yourselves up to Israeli forces. Job done.
Why is this so difficult? Even the Hamas apologists shouldn't have a problem with that. |
I would be very surprised if surrender is an option for them. Release of the hostages was offered some time back if Israel stopped the bombing permanently. |  |
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| 100 days since 7/10 on 12:20 - Jan 15 with 1064 views | blueasfook |
| 100 days since 7/10 on 12:07 - Jan 15 by J2BLUE |
Isn't that why we have Bankster?
Agree though, realism works both sides. Hamas will not surrender and Israel cannot punish innocent Gazans for the crimes of Hamas. This needs a negotiated settlement. Neither side can be expected to just give up because it won't happen.
I would support a temporary ceasefire so they could negotiate and hopefully it would become permanent. |
to be serious myself... Agree. A ceasefire might enable all sides to get round the table and negotiate what the future might look like for Gaza and Israel to co-exist peacefully. A long term solution is needed - something that both sides are happy with.
I will also say it doesn't help that Iran are stoking the fire. |  |
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| 100 days since 7/10 on 12:23 - Jan 15 with 1059 views | positivity |
| 100 days since 7/10 on 12:08 - Jan 15 by LeoMuff |
I would be very surprised if surrender is an option for them. Release of the hostages was offered some time back if Israel stopped the bombing permanently. |
didn't 3 israeli hostages try surrendering to the idf and got killed? |  |
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| 100 days since 7/10 on 14:21 - Jan 15 with 962 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| 100 days since 7/10 on 09:49 - Jan 15 by GlasgowBlue |
Respectful? The first reply was. The majority of comments are much the same stuff that has been posted ad infinitum on the scores of other threads of the subject of the Israel/Gaza conflict. With lip service to the plight of the hostages.
It was a thread to mark 100 days since the hostages were taken. I’m pretty sure that a thread marking 100 days since Israel launched its disproportionate and indiscriminate bombing campaign in Gaza will not be dominated by posts condemning the hostage taking whilst paying lip service to those innocent Palestinian civilians killed by the IDF.
My final comment in this as I can see the way it’s going, so better to let the thread be forgotten like the hostages,
There was a ceasefire on the evening of October 6th, when these poor souls said goodnight to their loved ones, many for the last time. The release of the hostages should be unconditional.
edit. You realise that not all the victims of the Hamas atrocities of October 7TH and not all of the hostages taken by Hamas are Jewish. Perhaps you should be taking issue with people staring and contributing to threads entitled "How many Palestinian lives are sufficient?"
Surely they are separating Palestinian deaths from "Jewish deaths". A bit of a nasty undercurrent to that accusation AM and one I would be grateful that you address. [Post edited 15 Jan 2024 15:25]
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"....lip service...."
The absolute state of you! |  |
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| 100 days since 7/10 on 14:27 - Jan 15 with 953 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| 100 days since 7/10 on 12:07 - Jan 15 by J2BLUE |
Isn't that why we have Bankster?
Agree though, realism works both sides. Hamas will not surrender and Israel cannot punish innocent Gazans for the crimes of Hamas. This needs a negotiated settlement. Neither side can be expected to just give up because it won't happen.
I would support a temporary ceasefire so they could negotiate and hopefully it would become permanent. |
Still struggling to see that a ceasefire is in the best interests of the hostages J2?
Where have I ever condoned or supported Hamas over the last few months?
Nice to see you accept the need for an immediate ceasefire though. | |
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| 100 days since 7/10 on 14:29 - Jan 15 with 944 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| 100 days since 7/10 on 12:20 - Jan 15 by blueasfook |
to be serious myself... Agree. A ceasefire might enable all sides to get round the table and negotiate what the future might look like for Gaza and Israel to co-exist peacefully. A long term solution is needed - something that both sides are happy with.
I will also say it doesn't help that Iran are stoking the fire. |
Lol....even you have got there in the end. If only you hadn't treated it like a football team thing up until now. | |
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| 100 days since 7/10 on 14:33 - Jan 15 with 933 views | blueasfook |
| 100 days since 7/10 on 14:29 - Jan 15 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Lol....even you have got there in the end. If only you hadn't treated it like a football team thing up until now. |
I still think Israel is right to go after Hamas. But for the longer term peace, diplomatic solutions are needed. | |
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| 100 days since 7/10 on 14:45 - Jan 15 with 912 views | pointofblue |
| 100 days since 7/10 on 09:52 - Jan 15 by DJR |
This (also involving commemoration of 100 days) doesn't seem right to me.
An Israeli footballer who displayed a message referring to the Israel-Gaza war during a match in Turkey has been arrested, according to reports in Turkish media.
After scoring a goal for his team against Trabsonspor, Sagiv Jehezkel revealed a message that read “100 days. 07/10” on a bandage on his left wrist.
Earlier on Sunday, the country’s justice minister announced an investigation into Jehezkel over the incident for suspected “incitement to hate”, after his club, Antalyaspor, sacked him over the matter. |
It's ridiculous. If he said destroy Gaza or even eliminate Hamas I would understand with the reaction but he's referring to the plight of the hostages. Hopefully he gets safely back to Israel, and not punished for this. | |
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| 100 days since 7/10 on 15:09 - Jan 15 with 867 views | DJR |
| 100 days since 7/10 on 14:45 - Jan 15 by pointofblue |
It's ridiculous. If he said destroy Gaza or even eliminate Hamas I would understand with the reaction but he's referring to the plight of the hostages. Hopefully he gets safely back to Israel, and not punished for this. |
It has since been announced that he will be allowed to leave for Israel after diplomatic pressure from Israel. [Post edited 15 Jan 2024 15:26]
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| 100 days since 7/10 on 15:14 - Jan 15 with 851 views | J2BLUE |
| 100 days since 7/10 on 14:27 - Jan 15 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Still struggling to see that a ceasefire is in the best interests of the hostages J2?
Where have I ever condoned or supported Hamas over the last few months?
Nice to see you accept the need for an immediate ceasefire though. |
A temporary one with a set end or Hamas have no reason to release any hostages, although that seems fine for some reason. | |
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| 100 days since 7/10 on 15:17 - Jan 15 with 839 views | eireblue |
| 100 days since 7/10 on 11:14 - Jan 15 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Israel have claimed to have eliminated 8,000 Hamas fighters since the outset of the war. I found that quite staggering, and must admit I didn’t realise quite how many militants they had. Whether or not that claim is accurate I don’t know, it’s quite difficult to find any estimates of combatants killed, or whether they are included in the civilian deaths (which would constitute a third of the 24k people estimated to have been killed in Gaza). |
The estimates were up to 20,000 combatants.
That force was being built during the ceasefire prior to 7th of October, and to some extent by repressing the Palestinians in Gaza, stealing money, food and not investing in things like hospitals.
Hamas could surrender anytime they like, give up their weapons, and return the hostages.
I could use a phrase containing an exclamation point, the words surrender and Hamas, and also some form wording to suggest it should be done forthwith and a degree of immediacy. But I don’t think it will help. |  | | |
| 100 days since 7/10 on 16:14 - Jan 15 with 764 views | mutters |
| 100 days since 7/10 on 08:00 - Jan 15 by GlasgowBlue |
Well that’s a shame. Istarted a thread where people could leave their sympathy for the men, women, children and babies who were abducted from their homes on 7/10. Many of whom had witnessed members of their families murdered, raped and mutilated in front of their eyes.
What a shame that the majority of people contributing to this thread were unable to do so.
For those who aren’t aware, there is a thread entitled “How many Palestinian lives are sufficient…” and another dozen or so threads started by banksy where the majority of these replies would have found a perfect home.
Like the thread on antisemitism that Instarted, some people just can’t help themselves. |
Looking at the OP there were no specific instructions about what people could reply with, so you can't just say that people aren't posting what you wanted.
Another point, just because people have a different view from yourself doesn't automatically make them antisemitic. I abhor what events that occurred on the 7th of October, likewise I abhor the treatment of the Palestinians by Israel over the last 7 decades. I also detest the way Hamas goes about things.
Am I antisemitic or am I Islamophobic or maybe I am both or maybe neither? |  |
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| 100 days since 7/10 on 16:26 - Jan 15 with 735 views | Blueschev |
| 100 days since 7/10 on 16:14 - Jan 15 by mutters |
Looking at the OP there were no specific instructions about what people could reply with, so you can't just say that people aren't posting what you wanted.
Another point, just because people have a different view from yourself doesn't automatically make them antisemitic. I abhor what events that occurred on the 7th of October, likewise I abhor the treatment of the Palestinians by Israel over the last 7 decades. I also detest the way Hamas goes about things.
Am I antisemitic or am I Islamophobic or maybe I am both or maybe neither? |
I have no doubt that every contributor to this thread wants the hostages returned to their families. It would be a step towards de-escalation (hopefully) and the sooner it happens the better.
Indiscriminately destroying the territory in which they are being held captive does nothing to further the likelihood of their return. It puts their lives in increased danger from both the bombings and Hamas acts of vengeance.
For the sake of the hostages, ceasefire now. |  | | |
| 100 days since 7/10 on 16:53 - Jan 15 with 691 views | GlasgowBlue |
| 100 days since 7/10 on 16:14 - Jan 15 by mutters |
Looking at the OP there were no specific instructions about what people could reply with, so you can't just say that people aren't posting what you wanted.
Another point, just because people have a different view from yourself doesn't automatically make them antisemitic. I abhor what events that occurred on the 7th of October, likewise I abhor the treatment of the Palestinians by Israel over the last 7 decades. I also detest the way Hamas goes about things.
Am I antisemitic or am I Islamophobic or maybe I am both or maybe neither? |
What an odd post. Where have I said that anyone disagreeing with me is antisemitic? The only time I have ever accused anyone n here of being antisemitic is when they have actually posted something antisemitic.
Being appalled at Israel's "indiscriminate and disproportionate" doesn't make somebody antisemitic. I've never seem a single person on here being accused of being antisemitic for putting that point f view over. It's a view I've poste myself several times. Even on this thread.
Why did you even bring the subject of antisemitism into the thread? Please link a single thread where somebody has been accused of being antisemitic for simply disagreeing with my point of view. Either put up or shut up. [Post edited 15 Jan 2024 17:05]
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