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Living in the knee jerk age 10:34 - Jan 28 with 1754 viewsMariner1974

A few people overnight asked me to repost this here!

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Embarrassing?

Most of your guys should be embarrassed about yourselves and take a long hard look in the mirror.

Knee Jerk reactions from fans who so quickly forget how brilliant we’ve been under McKenna and how we got promoted from League One to now sit in the Championship in 2nd place having lost only 3 League games nestled between Leicester & Southampton/Leeds.

I understand we have loads of Boomers/ Old Timers too in love with the romance of the FA Cup. Don’t worry, I love the Cup too, but I’m not about to lose my head about a game. I spent most of the game having to listen to a bunch of right old moaners around me, picking holes in everything we did even though we were peppering their goal.

Was it really that embarrassing to have 78% possession and 38 shots, but get hit on the break by the opposition's two shots?

Prebbs007
“A few of them should be sacked…went to King Power on Monday and was so proud. Today I’ve never been so embarasssed. A number of these idiots need replacing”

Not Knee Jerk at all there? Proud of your team on Monday and now a few days later you want to put them up against the wall and shoot them all?

TractorBoyBig -
"The worst result and performance of ITFC in it’s history”

Really? The Worst Performance in ITFC History? Did you watch any of those games when Alan Judge was running around like a headless chicken and our team looked totally bereft of ideas during the pandemic? I think you may have missed a fair few eras at Portman Road after the Robson Glory years in there somewhere.

Bezzer ‘ “I’d question our management team…why don’t they show some emotion on the touchline”

Yeh Bezzer…why don’t we question Kieron McKenna and his team who’ve won promotion with us and taken us to 2nd in the Championship on our first season back in it.

As for all you numerous pant soilers such as TexasTom, Len Brennan, BlueSkies (change your name to Grey Clouds). Take a breath guys. Yeh we lost a game of football that we dominated for a fair chunk, and yes we shouldn’t have, but come on. You’ve all seen enough games to know that some days Lady Luck doesn’t shine on your side. We could have been 3 or more up in first 15 mins playing some great football and for a fair chunk of the game , and the ball refused to go into the net on far too many occasions. They scored with 2 chances on the break. Smash and grab.

It happens sometimes in games like when we frustratingly lost to Lincoln last year. Team parks the bus, score on the break and then just block every shot possible to prevent us scoring. We’ve scored goals when we’ve needed to like both games home and away against Leicester when we could so easily have lost. At Watford where we came back and won… Today we were the better team, bossing the possession and game and got sucker punched on two goals, and they bravely defended for their lives. It happens sometimes, and I’d rather take 6 points against Preston and Sunderland, than dwell on not making the next round of the FA Cup. As much fun as it would be to play in the last 16.

JewellintheTown talking rubbish when he said “So many looked outclassed at times by Maidstone”. Outclassed? Really? His point on watching his TV and commenting on hearing Maidstone fans and not ours, was because this was a massive game for them.

If there would have been a quicker uptake and more appetite for the game from our regular season ticket holders & fans, then we wouldn’t have needed to give them the charity of the upper tier and 4500 tickets. That’s naive of the club. If you want to progress and you want to bring more money into the club from making the next round, don’t give the opposition the chance to have a crowd so loud and behind them when playing away, that it spurs on the players. If we’d have just given them the usual amount, they wouldn’t have had a chance to drown us out.

This was a game attended by a lot of people who don’t normally got to games, and where people end up sitting next to people they wouldn’t usually sit next to, so no wonder there isn’t the same collective atmosphere behind the team as normal.

At least everyone was classy enough to clap the Maidstone manager at the end of the game, when he came past and gave his respect to the North Stand.

McKenna made a booboo by taking off Sarmiento and Hutchison who were both the class acts on the day, Burns should never have cut off his hair like Samson, & we should have scored far more of our numerous chances.

Thanks to the likes of SaxonBlue74 , FreddySteady , JoyousBlue & Steve ITFC Sweden for keeping some perspective, and not being so knee jerk and silly as others.

People soiling their pants and obsessing on our need for a striker.

Yes we need a new striker to cover Hirst, Ladapo and Scarlett not being around. We all know that. Us repeating it isn’t gonna solve anything. McKenna, Ashton and co are fully aware & are no doubt trying their hardest to nail the reinforcements.

We’re a fantastic team this season and last thanks to the belief and philosophy installed by McKenna who’s been a godsend. Let’s take the lessons from today, regroup and go and get the win up at Preston.
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Living in the knee jerk age on 10:36 - Jan 28 with 1688 viewsSitfcB

Nobody asked you to re-post that here.

Are they all news commenters? They’re a different breed. Don’t need to bring their views to the forum.

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Living in the knee jerk age on 10:37 - Jan 28 with 1679 viewspointofblue

Re giving Maidstone 4500 tickets, FA Cup rules specify teams have to give their opponents 15% of the ground, and that's what they requested.

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Living in the knee jerk age on 10:38 - Jan 28 with 1630 viewsFrimleyBlue

I loved the BBC highlights.

Showed the game. Showing ipswich absolutely controlling every aspect of the game.
They score 2 goals tho. Fine.


After.

Caused us no end of problems. Barely discuss the 1000 shots but show 40 seconds of 3 maidstone attempts at getting at our defenders as their case of causing us problems.

Waka waka eh eh
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Living in the knee jerk age on 10:42 - Jan 28 with 1593 viewsJ2BLUE

I don't recognise any of those names

Truly impaired.
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Living in the knee jerk age on 10:54 - Jan 28 with 1503 viewsBlue_badge

Uptick from a "boomer/old timer" as I agree about all the pant wetters after yesterday - you don't have to be old to moan though and I'm often amazed at the negativity I hear from 30+ year old dad's, presumably trying to impress their kids.
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Living in the knee jerk age on 11:01 - Jan 28 with 1450 viewsHighgateBlue

I think you can hold the view, as I do, that in isolation it was the worst result in Town's professional history, and that the result was hugely embarrassing, whilst also recognising the obvious truth that in most areas of play we were hugely hugely dominant. Equally, holding the view that it was the worst result in the Club's history doesn't mean that it should make fans more upset than, for example, losing a derby heavily, playing dire defensive football at home, or getting relegated. You don't give a suggestion about which /result/ in our history was worse than yesterday. You just criticise Alan Judge. He was not a result. He was a disappointing midfielder.

And criticising individuals for expressing views on the basis that it won't change anything is unfair. None of our posts will change anything. Plainly. We all know that.

It's quite right that saying we need a striker is not novel or genius. But giving away our one proven striker (Freddie is very substantially better than the National League South) without a replacement is either very stupid or smacks of a disrespect for the Cup. We know KMac is not even slightly stupid, he's an absolute hero with enormous footballing intelligence. So what disappoints me is the lack of respect for the Cup. For Buabo to be the only recognised striker in the whole matchday squad is treating this competition with less respect than we treated the Papa John's, and that to me is a matter of disappointment, because I care about the Cup. The proper Cup. I care about Ipswich and not just in the league.

I'm pleased for Maidstone fans because they care about the Cup and they were passionate about their team. The fashionable reaction to yesterday from our fans seems to be a competition as to who can care least about our team losing (against a team 99 places lower than us). Pointing out, without histrionics, that it was a terrible result, and that the Cup should matter, is not bed-wetting or being a melt (whatever that means). A debate about the importance of the Cup is worth having.

The transfer window was crucial last season in creating our unreal form from February onwards. And we've seen before how a failure to invest at championship level in January can cost us. I just hope that yesterday's failure to convert our gazillion chances may serve as the final piece of impetus to the club hierarchy to go as far as they reasonably can with the chequebook to get us a striker who can hold the ball up decently at this level (we have none at the moment) and a striker who can finish decently at this level (we have none at the moment). If that happens then something good may come out of yesterday. Not many days left now, but the current regime have earned our trust that they are trying to sort out this glaring hole in our squad.

It is of course going too far to say that players need to be sacked on the back of one result, especially given that elements of the performance were quite respectable. But yesterday was an extreme result. An extreme reaction to it is therefore not especially disproportionate.
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Living in the knee jerk age on 11:08 - Jan 28 with 1400 viewspennblue

Living in the knee jerk age on 11:01 - Jan 28 by HighgateBlue

I think you can hold the view, as I do, that in isolation it was the worst result in Town's professional history, and that the result was hugely embarrassing, whilst also recognising the obvious truth that in most areas of play we were hugely hugely dominant. Equally, holding the view that it was the worst result in the Club's history doesn't mean that it should make fans more upset than, for example, losing a derby heavily, playing dire defensive football at home, or getting relegated. You don't give a suggestion about which /result/ in our history was worse than yesterday. You just criticise Alan Judge. He was not a result. He was a disappointing midfielder.

And criticising individuals for expressing views on the basis that it won't change anything is unfair. None of our posts will change anything. Plainly. We all know that.

It's quite right that saying we need a striker is not novel or genius. But giving away our one proven striker (Freddie is very substantially better than the National League South) without a replacement is either very stupid or smacks of a disrespect for the Cup. We know KMac is not even slightly stupid, he's an absolute hero with enormous footballing intelligence. So what disappoints me is the lack of respect for the Cup. For Buabo to be the only recognised striker in the whole matchday squad is treating this competition with less respect than we treated the Papa John's, and that to me is a matter of disappointment, because I care about the Cup. The proper Cup. I care about Ipswich and not just in the league.

I'm pleased for Maidstone fans because they care about the Cup and they were passionate about their team. The fashionable reaction to yesterday from our fans seems to be a competition as to who can care least about our team losing (against a team 99 places lower than us). Pointing out, without histrionics, that it was a terrible result, and that the Cup should matter, is not bed-wetting or being a melt (whatever that means). A debate about the importance of the Cup is worth having.

The transfer window was crucial last season in creating our unreal form from February onwards. And we've seen before how a failure to invest at championship level in January can cost us. I just hope that yesterday's failure to convert our gazillion chances may serve as the final piece of impetus to the club hierarchy to go as far as they reasonably can with the chequebook to get us a striker who can hold the ball up decently at this level (we have none at the moment) and a striker who can finish decently at this level (we have none at the moment). If that happens then something good may come out of yesterday. Not many days left now, but the current regime have earned our trust that they are trying to sort out this glaring hole in our squad.

It is of course going too far to say that players need to be sacked on the back of one result, especially given that elements of the performance were quite respectable. But yesterday was an extreme result. An extreme reaction to it is therefore not especially disproportionate.


I don't get why everyone is so upset. We are not going to win the F.A Cup this year, so unless keeping our 2nd string fit is an objective (now we are approaching Feb and have been hit by illness / injury I don't think this is so valid), it is a massive distraction out the way.

I would far prefer to let Maidstone fans have their day than lose to a 1st div side. Thats what makes football great.

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Living in the knee jerk age on 11:52 - Jan 28 with 1289 viewsRyorry

Living in the knee jerk age on 10:38 - Jan 28 by FrimleyBlue

I loved the BBC highlights.

Showed the game. Showing ipswich absolutely controlling every aspect of the game.
They score 2 goals tho. Fine.


After.

Caused us no end of problems. Barely discuss the 1000 shots but show 40 seconds of 3 maidstone attempts at getting at our defenders as their case of causing us problems.


And the wally on the right of picture didn't think we should have been awarded the penalty - for us to get it, Edmundson should have left his foot on the ground & risked injury, apparently ...

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Living in the knee jerk age on 12:16 - Jan 28 with 1240 viewsMariner1974

Living in the knee jerk age on 10:36 - Jan 28 by SitfcB

Nobody asked you to re-post that here.

Are they all news commenters? They’re a different breed. Don’t need to bring their views to the forum.


Well a few people did!

I actually haven't used the forum before, and it's actually probably alot better spot for me to write one of my long posts, rather than responding to people on the news feed.

Guess I imagined regular contributors use both, but probably as you say there are different breeds of fans.
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Living in the knee jerk age on 12:17 - Jan 28 with 1224 viewsMariner1974

Living in the knee jerk age on 10:37 - Jan 28 by pointofblue

Re giving Maidstone 4500 tickets, FA Cup rules specify teams have to give their opponents 15% of the ground, and that's what they requested.


Ahhh I probably wasn't aware of what's what here.

Just felt that if we really wanted to make this game a priority, we could have given them less chance / less seats to rally behind their team, and make it less of a neutral ground that it felt like on the day
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Living in the knee jerk age on 12:19 - Jan 28 with 1202 viewspointofblue

Living in the knee jerk age on 12:17 - Jan 28 by Mariner1974

Ahhh I probably wasn't aware of what's what here.

Just felt that if we really wanted to make this game a priority, we could have given them less chance / less seats to rally behind their team, and make it less of a neutral ground that it felt like on the day


If we could, I doubt we would have given them 4500, but our hands were tied.

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Living in the knee jerk age on 12:20 - Jan 28 with 1180 viewsMariner1974

Living in the knee jerk age on 10:54 - Jan 28 by Blue_badge

Uptick from a "boomer/old timer" as I agree about all the pant wetters after yesterday - you don't have to be old to moan though and I'm often amazed at the negativity I hear from 30+ year old dad's, presumably trying to impress their kids.


Yeh agreed!

The knee jerk responses can be just as prevalent from the youngsters and people of any age. Just wish people all round would have more positivity in life, and not be so quick to react in either direction.

Guess people spill over their life frustrations onto the terraces and online
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Living in the knee jerk age on 12:22 - Jan 28 with 1158 viewsReusersTown

Living in the knee jerk age on 10:36 - Jan 28 by SitfcB

Nobody asked you to re-post that here.

Are they all news commenters? They’re a different breed. Don’t need to bring their views to the forum.


Is any of what he said wrong, I'd suggest you dry yourself
down.
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Living in the knee jerk age on 12:27 - Jan 28 with 1132 viewsHanser

Living in the knee jerk age on 12:20 - Jan 28 by Mariner1974

Yeh agreed!

The knee jerk responses can be just as prevalent from the youngsters and people of any age. Just wish people all round would have more positivity in life, and not be so quick to react in either direction.

Guess people spill over their life frustrations onto the terraces and online


Agreed.

I've always been proud to say I'm an Ipswich fan, in good times and bad. Being an Ipswich fan is more than about winning

I'd continue to support Ipswich Town even if the team was entirely made up of animals from Baylham Farm Park.
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Living in the knee jerk age on 12:31 - Jan 28 with 1108 viewsibbleobble

I’d like to see a tiered system introduced on here, possibly based on uppies. The mixture of opinion is actually non-sensical at times. Those who are here to troll or rant will no doubt be in a pool of like minded folk and until they start posting sensible things, they’ll remain at that level of discussion until they can hold sensible objective debate which gets rewarded by uppies and moving up the tiered system.

Some of the posts you captured (and well done for doing so) are ridiculous!
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Living in the knee jerk age on 12:47 - Jan 28 with 1071 viewsHong_Kong_Bluey

Living in the knee jerk age on 10:36 - Jan 28 by SitfcB

Nobody asked you to re-post that here.

Are they all news commenters? They’re a different breed. Don’t need to bring their views to the forum.


That is factually incorrect. I for one asked him to repost it.
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Living in the knee jerk age on 14:22 - Jan 28 with 914 viewsMariner1974

Living in the knee jerk age on 11:01 - Jan 28 by HighgateBlue

I think you can hold the view, as I do, that in isolation it was the worst result in Town's professional history, and that the result was hugely embarrassing, whilst also recognising the obvious truth that in most areas of play we were hugely hugely dominant. Equally, holding the view that it was the worst result in the Club's history doesn't mean that it should make fans more upset than, for example, losing a derby heavily, playing dire defensive football at home, or getting relegated. You don't give a suggestion about which /result/ in our history was worse than yesterday. You just criticise Alan Judge. He was not a result. He was a disappointing midfielder.

And criticising individuals for expressing views on the basis that it won't change anything is unfair. None of our posts will change anything. Plainly. We all know that.

It's quite right that saying we need a striker is not novel or genius. But giving away our one proven striker (Freddie is very substantially better than the National League South) without a replacement is either very stupid or smacks of a disrespect for the Cup. We know KMac is not even slightly stupid, he's an absolute hero with enormous footballing intelligence. So what disappoints me is the lack of respect for the Cup. For Buabo to be the only recognised striker in the whole matchday squad is treating this competition with less respect than we treated the Papa John's, and that to me is a matter of disappointment, because I care about the Cup. The proper Cup. I care about Ipswich and not just in the league.

I'm pleased for Maidstone fans because they care about the Cup and they were passionate about their team. The fashionable reaction to yesterday from our fans seems to be a competition as to who can care least about our team losing (against a team 99 places lower than us). Pointing out, without histrionics, that it was a terrible result, and that the Cup should matter, is not bed-wetting or being a melt (whatever that means). A debate about the importance of the Cup is worth having.

The transfer window was crucial last season in creating our unreal form from February onwards. And we've seen before how a failure to invest at championship level in January can cost us. I just hope that yesterday's failure to convert our gazillion chances may serve as the final piece of impetus to the club hierarchy to go as far as they reasonably can with the chequebook to get us a striker who can hold the ball up decently at this level (we have none at the moment) and a striker who can finish decently at this level (we have none at the moment). If that happens then something good may come out of yesterday. Not many days left now, but the current regime have earned our trust that they are trying to sort out this glaring hole in our squad.

It is of course going too far to say that players need to be sacked on the back of one result, especially given that elements of the performance were quite respectable. But yesterday was an extreme result. An extreme reaction to it is therefore not especially disproportionate.


I think it shows less respect to Maidstone to say it’s hugely embarrassing and the worst result in the Club’s history.

Great credit to Maidstone manager and players. They are still 11 men vs 11 men, put out on the pitch and though their shortcomings were evident, they fought hard, scored two great goals on the break, keeper played magnificently and Lady Luck shone on them a fair deal. Great for them. Let's just show them the respect that they raised their game, have done something wonderful for their town, and get the fun of playing 8 games in this year's FA Cup at least.

What I’m saying is that football games play out this way sometimes, and no matter who it is on the pitch, McKenna and the club showed them a lot of respect. We had a great team out there playing from the first whistle, and arguably that team in the first half played a lot better and were more creative than the subs that came on to try and salvage the draw/win.

Freddie was so poor in the last round against Wimbledon, and obviously disgruntlement from the player, and the need to balance the books made the club let Freddie go out on loan when Charlton were keen to take him. I don’t find it disrespectful that we played Omari Hutchison from Chelsea, Jeremy Sarmiento from Brighton, and one of our first team players Nathan Broadhead up front. Buabo being on the bench and not Jackson, no doubt means McKenna plans to play him against Preston and the tiring nature of being a long striker and the pressing involved shows the lad needs rest to be fresh for it. We don’t need to second guess McKenna on that one.

I’d love us to be in the next round of the Cup. Just for people to throw the kitchen sink at players and management is not fair and over reactive.

I just wish people could be more level headed and think before they spout off. We have a great manager and team playing above their level. I’m sure Ashton and co are doing everything in their power to bring in the players that we need to push on for promotion.
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Living in the knee jerk age on 14:29 - Jan 28 with 877 viewsSitfcB

Living in the knee jerk age on 12:22 - Jan 28 by ReusersTown

Is any of what he said wrong, I'd suggest you dry yourself
down.


I don’t know what he said and what was copied and pasted tbh.

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Living in the knee jerk age on 17:20 - Jan 28 with 646 viewsstonojnr

Living in the knee jerk age on 12:20 - Jan 28 by Mariner1974

Yeh agreed!

The knee jerk responses can be just as prevalent from the youngsters and people of any age. Just wish people all round would have more positivity in life, and not be so quick to react in either direction.

Guess people spill over their life frustrations onto the terraces and online


Most of the knee jerking I hear is from the younger fan base, the benefit of getting older is in experience, we've been there, done that, seen far worse, been way more embarrassed multiple times, you eventually realise its just part of being a Town fan so you tend to react to results like yesterday as one of those things, move on and try and forget about it, hope the next game is better

Doesn't mean the older fan base talks sense though, I hear alot more twaddle from older fans during games, I believe young folk would call them bad takes, who should know better, but seemingly don't.
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