| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? 09:31 - Feb 5 with 11519 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
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| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 15:11 - Feb 7 with 1210 views | flykickingbybgunn |
| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 11:09 - Feb 5 by baxterbasics |
I don't think 43 qualifies me as a "young'un" anymore, sadly. But given I do not own my home I fully expect to be working until I am 95 or until I drop, whichever comes sooner.
And that's even with my decent-ish workplace pension scheme.
Only possible light at the end of the tunnel is if my long-hold of approx £1k in bitcoin and sh!tcoins rockets into the stratosphere. |
Dont underestimate the difference the ten years difference between 60-70 makes. There are many things that I cant do now (at 70) that I could do easily then. Working full time is one of them. |  | | |
| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 17:47 - Feb 7 with 1154 views | mutters |
| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 15:11 - Feb 7 by flykickingbybgunn |
Dont underestimate the difference the ten years difference between 60-70 makes. There are many things that I cant do now (at 70) that I could do easily then. Working full time is one of them. |
I concur. Having seen my parent's energy levels drop dramatically as they approached 65 it was crazy. Fortunately, they could afford to step back when they needed to. Many will not be able to do so. It's a ticking timebomb as a lot of jobs will not be suitable for older people who won't have the updated skill set. Guess they could just do manual labour..... |  |
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| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 18:51 - Feb 7 with 1126 views | Churchman |
| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 17:47 - Feb 7 by mutters |
I concur. Having seen my parent's energy levels drop dramatically as they approached 65 it was crazy. Fortunately, they could afford to step back when they needed to. Many will not be able to do so. It's a ticking timebomb as a lot of jobs will not be suitable for older people who won't have the updated skill set. Guess they could just do manual labour..... |
That’s the other point. Who is going to employ them? Ageism is about the biggest ‘ism’ we have in this country. If you try getting a new job at 20, dead easy. At 37, finding work is still pretty easy, not least because by then you’ve acquired a skill or two hopefully. Get into your 40s and it becomes a lot harder. I know because I’ve done it.
What I’ve not done is look for work in my 50s and I dread to think what chance you have in your 60s. Greeter at Asda? Cleaning the bogs? Bit of shelf stacking for the minimum wage at a garden centre?
Some forms of employment you can get work if you have the skills - my dad did self employed planning consultancy well into his 60s and an acquaintance does medical research still and he’s 68.
The reality though is that many (not all) companies don’t want older people because it’s impossible for them to do the work and by and large they are harder to train. Employ them in the public sector? Doing what? Call centre? Tax collection? Maybe things like Ushers in Court and working the door? Prison Warders maybe. Yep, can see a problem there when it all kicks off.
But anyway, since the government view the public sector as the dead hand (Francis Maude) and are busy trying to get rid of it, they’re hardly going to be employing 60-70 year olds.
The objective is all about not paying out state pension. It’s all that matters. They couldn’t give a flying fat one about the consequences. |  | | |
| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 08:02 - Feb 9 with 1028 views | DJR |
More news on the cancer front.
More than a third of cancer patients in England are facing potentially deadly delays, leading doctors have said, with thousands of people forced to wait months to begin treatment.
Doctors raised concerns that cancer targets across the NHS were still being missed, even when somebody has been diagnosed with the disease, with one vital target now not hit for eight years.
The proportion of patients waiting less than 62 days in December from an urgent suspected cancer referral or consultant upgrade to their first definitive treatment for cancer was 65.9%, up slightly from 65.2% in November. The target is 85% and was last met in December 2015. |  | | |
| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 08:23 - Feb 9 with 1009 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 18:51 - Feb 7 by Churchman |
That’s the other point. Who is going to employ them? Ageism is about the biggest ‘ism’ we have in this country. If you try getting a new job at 20, dead easy. At 37, finding work is still pretty easy, not least because by then you’ve acquired a skill or two hopefully. Get into your 40s and it becomes a lot harder. I know because I’ve done it.
What I’ve not done is look for work in my 50s and I dread to think what chance you have in your 60s. Greeter at Asda? Cleaning the bogs? Bit of shelf stacking for the minimum wage at a garden centre?
Some forms of employment you can get work if you have the skills - my dad did self employed planning consultancy well into his 60s and an acquaintance does medical research still and he’s 68.
The reality though is that many (not all) companies don’t want older people because it’s impossible for them to do the work and by and large they are harder to train. Employ them in the public sector? Doing what? Call centre? Tax collection? Maybe things like Ushers in Court and working the door? Prison Warders maybe. Yep, can see a problem there when it all kicks off.
But anyway, since the government view the public sector as the dead hand (Francis Maude) and are busy trying to get rid of it, they’re hardly going to be employing 60-70 year olds.
The objective is all about not paying out state pension. It’s all that matters. They couldn’t give a flying fat one about the consequences. |
The other point is (as always) MP’s pension age has not risen in line with the state pension. Since they aren’t private schemes, we are funding it which is the real kicker. “You plebs can all work till you drop, we’ll retire early on our gold plated pension”.
They really do lack any self awareness or shame. |  | | |
| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 08:23 - Feb 9 with 1005 views | Churchman |
| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 08:02 - Feb 9 by DJR |
More news on the cancer front.
More than a third of cancer patients in England are facing potentially deadly delays, leading doctors have said, with thousands of people forced to wait months to begin treatment.
Doctors raised concerns that cancer targets across the NHS were still being missed, even when somebody has been diagnosed with the disease, with one vital target now not hit for eight years.
The proportion of patients waiting less than 62 days in December from an urgent suspected cancer referral or consultant upgrade to their first definitive treatment for cancer was 65.9%, up slightly from 65.2% in November. The target is 85% and was last met in December 2015. |
Ok it’s a sample of one. Mrs C is due to go in for her operation next week and it will be exactly one month since the diagnosis. In that time, she has had consultations face to face, by phone, scans x2, pre-op stuff taking a good chunk of yesterday.
But this is just one person. Your stats suggest a patchy service; a postcode lottery across the country. Does the government care? Of course not any more than they’re interested in any other aspect of health from the care of the elderly to dentistry (see other thread). It’s nowhere near good enough.
For this reason alone the primitive scum running the country should be thrown out, before you get to all their other incompetencies, lies and deceit. | | | |
| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 08:56 - Feb 9 with 982 views | itfcjoe |
| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 08:23 - Feb 9 by Churchman |
Ok it’s a sample of one. Mrs C is due to go in for her operation next week and it will be exactly one month since the diagnosis. In that time, she has had consultations face to face, by phone, scans x2, pre-op stuff taking a good chunk of yesterday.
But this is just one person. Your stats suggest a patchy service; a postcode lottery across the country. Does the government care? Of course not any more than they’re interested in any other aspect of health from the care of the elderly to dentistry (see other thread). It’s nowhere near good enough.
For this reason alone the primitive scum running the country should be thrown out, before you get to all their other incompetencies, lies and deceit. |
Sorry to hear about Mrs C and sounds as though she's getting great care and has been fortunate with that when you look around at the moment.
My Mum had a discrepancy last year, not a lump but a different feel, last year, and could barely get a Drs appointment, they were telling her to send a photo in it etc and then they'd look at and come back.....fortunately we have private health care so at that point she went to Vitality and 2 months later she was under the knife and now is totally cancer free after some extensive surgery without the need for any radiotherapy......I dread to think what could have happened had we not been in that position as the postcode lottery here wasn't working......at the very best outcome it would have slowed it down and when she was under the knife it turned out to be much more aggressive than they realised so it really was in the nick of the time.
All the best to yourself and Mrs C for the upcoming treatments |  |
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| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 08:59 - Feb 9 with 975 views | OldFart71 |
Not that I feel ,if true, that this is fair as MP's only have to "Work" for 13 years in order to get a pension and as we have been made aware many ministers have quite their jobs and still got payouts. A PM after leaving this job is entitled to a £115,000 a year allowance. This would include people like Truss who was only in the job a couple of months. Is it any wonder that people are totally fed up with how one section of society is treated as opposed to another. My real point though is what's wrong with working until 71 ? I'm now mid 70's, but worked until 71 and believe me if I was able I would still be working. It will of course vary on what type of work you are doing. What sort of strain on your body and how healthy you are. If you really want to give up work early and if you can start putting money aside a.s.a.p. but don't forget to live a life as well. | | | |
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| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 09:10 - Feb 9 with 958 views | baxterbasics |
| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 15:11 - Feb 7 by flykickingbybgunn |
Dont underestimate the difference the ten years difference between 60-70 makes. There are many things that I cant do now (at 70) that I could do easily then. Working full time is one of them. |
It helps that my job is sat at a desk and PC all day - so long as my eyesight (not yet needing glasses), brain, and hand dexterity are good I should be able to continue (if not replaced by AI at some point of course).
If I was doing something more demanding - teacher, policeman, nurse - then agreed, working to 70 is or more is unrealistic for most. |  |
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| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 11:15 - Feb 9 with 915 views | Churchman |
| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 08:56 - Feb 9 by itfcjoe |
Sorry to hear about Mrs C and sounds as though she's getting great care and has been fortunate with that when you look around at the moment.
My Mum had a discrepancy last year, not a lump but a different feel, last year, and could barely get a Drs appointment, they were telling her to send a photo in it etc and then they'd look at and come back.....fortunately we have private health care so at that point she went to Vitality and 2 months later she was under the knife and now is totally cancer free after some extensive surgery without the need for any radiotherapy......I dread to think what could have happened had we not been in that position as the postcode lottery here wasn't working......at the very best outcome it would have slowed it down and when she was under the knife it turned out to be much more aggressive than they realised so it really was in the nick of the time.
All the best to yourself and Mrs C for the upcoming treatments |
Thank you Joe. It looks like it’s been caught pretty early so she is looking at a hysterectomy and possibly some radiotherapy at the moment. A tough time but the outlook is positive. They’ve moved quickly and thoroughly but if I get any sense of delay we will go privately.
I’m glad your mum is through it and is ok. Your experience is evidence of the lottery we are talking about. It’s not good enough. | | | |
| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 18:46 - Feb 9 with 869 views | DJR |
As this thread has touched on hospital delays, interesting to note that the waiting time for non-urgent cases in A&E today in Aintree General Hospital in Liverpool is 20 hours | | | |
| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 18:52 - Feb 9 with 862 views | bluelagos |
| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 18:46 - Feb 9 by DJR |
As this thread has touched on hospital delays, interesting to note that the waiting time for non-urgent cases in A&E today in Aintree General Hospital in Liverpool is 20 hours |
Let's hope they feed them when they get in. This story is so fcked - guy had downs and dementia - basically starved to death in a hospital.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-68251142 |  |
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| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 20:12 - Feb 9 with 841 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 18:46 - Feb 9 by DJR |
As this thread has touched on hospital delays, interesting to note that the waiting time for non-urgent cases in A&E today in Aintree General Hospital in Liverpool is 20 hours |
I’m not surprised. Aintree was a shthole at the best of times, so god knows what it’s like after the Tories have spent 14 years attacking the NHS. My mum had the most horrendous last 48 hours of her life in a general ward there. The system was obviously broken and nonsensical, but worst than that some of the staff couldn’t give a crap. It’s the only time I’ve experienced that in the NHS. In contrast, their intensive care unit was run by angels. It was unbelievable. General ward though? Nah, fk you, you’re on your own even if you can’t move, and don’t you dare complain about it. Utter ****s. |  |
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| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 08:40 - Feb 10 with 767 views | DJR |
| Any of you young'uns seen the exciting pension news? on 20:12 - Feb 9 by Swansea_Blue |
I’m not surprised. Aintree was a shthole at the best of times, so god knows what it’s like after the Tories have spent 14 years attacking the NHS. My mum had the most horrendous last 48 hours of her life in a general ward there. The system was obviously broken and nonsensical, but worst than that some of the staff couldn’t give a crap. It’s the only time I’ve experienced that in the NHS. In contrast, their intensive care unit was run by angels. It was unbelievable. General ward though? Nah, fk you, you’re on your own even if you can’t move, and don’t you dare complain about it. Utter ****s. |
Interesting.
My father died in a hospital in Eastbourne in 2010 at a time when there was record satisfaction with the NHS, but in the three weeks I visited him before his death I could not create any rapport with any of the staff, something that in other settings I'm pretty good at.
Maybe it's just general wards, where they are often just waiting for people to die, which in turn feeds itself through to the attitude of the staff..
The contrast with the time, 20 years ago, when my 3 year old son was in hospital for a week or so couldn't be greater. The staff there were fantastic. [Post edited 10 Feb 2024 8:47]
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