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39% turn out. 09:53 - Mar 1 with 4534 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Approaching Iranian levels of engagement.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/01/iran-election-expected-turnout-mah

I know Rochdale is an unusual set of circumstances but I fully expect this disengagement with the political process to continue across the globe.

Time for a None of the Above option?

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39% turn out. on 09:56 - Mar 1 with 2800 viewsWeWereZombies

I wonder how many would have voted if an 'Anyone but George Galloway' option had been on the ballot paper ?

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39% turn out. on 09:57 - Mar 1 with 2794 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

In Iran the elections are widely regarded as not free, or fair so it’s hardly surprising they don’t turn out.

As for Galloway; “I don’t like Labour’s stance on the massacre in Gaza, so I’m going to vote for a racist who shilled for Assad whilst he was gassing Muslim civilians “.
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39% turn out. on 10:01 - Mar 1 with 2764 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

39% turn out. on 09:56 - Mar 1 by WeWereZombies

I wonder how many would have voted if an 'Anyone but George Galloway' option had been on the ballot paper ?


Exactly.....N.O.T.A.

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39% turn out. on 10:02 - Mar 1 with 2754 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Similar turnout in Kingswood (39%) and in Wellingborough (38%).

Turnout in by-elections has been on a general downward trend since the mid 80's, but the average is still around 50%.

General elections average a 69% turnout, but again there is a downward trend developing, voter apathy is a big issue, importantly the feeling that 'it makes no difference'.

A bigger issue is the percentage of 18-25 year olds that have never cast a vote.

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39% turn out. on 10:03 - Mar 1 with 2750 viewsGuthrum

It's a by-election. By-elections always have something between a half and two-thirds the turn-out of a general election. They don't change the government.

I fully expect the GE turn-out to be in the order of 70% nationally.

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39% turn out. on 10:03 - Mar 1 with 2741 viewsBlueschev

I'd quite happily see voting made compulsory, provided there was a none of the above option. It would lead to further engagement and therefore better candidates.
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39% turn out. on 10:06 - Mar 1 with 2712 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

39% turn out. on 10:03 - Mar 1 by Blueschev

I'd quite happily see voting made compulsory, provided there was a none of the above option. It would lead to further engagement and therefore better candidates.


I think that it is probably engagement that the political class fear the most!

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39% turn out. on 10:10 - Mar 1 with 2671 viewsWeWereZombies

39% turn out. on 10:01 - Mar 1 by BanksterDebtSlave

Exactly.....N.O.T.A.


Not quite, because Labour fouled up their candidate vetting the constituency was left with an attention seeking issue chaser with a dubious record of appalling moral stances as the only viable alternative to the Conservatives (that a local businessman who only decided to stand four weeks ago actually came second speaks volumes about the perception of our ruling party at the moment.)

If 'none of the above' was the option that would show a lack of faith in representational democracy, if 'anyone but George Galloway' was the option that would show a lack of faith in one particular politician.

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39% turn out. on 10:10 - Mar 1 with 2669 viewsBlueschev

39% turn out. on 10:06 - Mar 1 by BanksterDebtSlave

I think that it is probably engagement that the political class fear the most!


Further engagement is the last thing the main political parties want. Apathy keeps them on the gravy train.
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39% turn out. on 10:11 - Mar 1 with 2657 viewsCheltenham_Blue

39% turn out. on 10:01 - Mar 1 by BanksterDebtSlave

Exactly.....N.O.T.A.


We already have a none of the above option.
Draw a big cock on your paper, or a shi^^ing arse.

Its called spoiling your paper and the number of spoilt papers has to be recorded by law.

I don't get what difference a little box will make.

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39% turn out. on 10:15 - Mar 1 with 2620 viewsWeWereZombies

39% turn out. on 10:10 - Mar 1 by Blueschev

Further engagement is the last thing the main political parties want. Apathy keeps them on the gravy train.


What about rather than compulsory voting being the proposal an alternative of MP's pay being linked to voter turnout ? Anything below 40% and the MP is on minimum wage and then a rising scale with a cut off point of 85% voter turn out giving the current MP's pay and allowances. I would allow MPs on minimum wage to attend training courses at their local Jobcentre though...

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39% turn out. on 10:28 - Mar 1 with 2566 viewsPinewoodblue

I find the turnout at recent by elections worrying.

We have a government which, in the opinion of a big majority, is worse than useless but at the last three by elections less than 40% of the electorate bothered to vote.

With so many people supposedly sick & tired of this government you would expect this to lead to an increase in the number voting.
Doesn’t show a lot of faith in the alternatives available.

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39% turn out. on 10:33 - Mar 1 with 2550 viewsCheltenham_Blue

39% turn out. on 10:28 - Mar 1 by Pinewoodblue

I find the turnout at recent by elections worrying.

We have a government which, in the opinion of a big majority, is worse than useless but at the last three by elections less than 40% of the electorate bothered to vote.

With so many people supposedly sick & tired of this government you would expect this to lead to an increase in the number voting.
Doesn’t show a lot of faith in the alternatives available.


In this country we are becoming far more partisan in regards to voting, "I'll never vote Tory/Labour".

It seems, as a result, the method of displaying dissatisfaction with your party is to not put your coat on.

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39% turn out. on 10:35 - Mar 1 with 2536 viewsPinewoodblue

39% turn out. on 10:33 - Mar 1 by Cheltenham_Blue

In this country we are becoming far more partisan in regards to voting, "I'll never vote Tory/Labour".

It seems, as a result, the method of displaying dissatisfaction with your party is to not put your coat on.


Yep. Get your core support to vote and you win. Fail to get them to vote and you lose.

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39% turn out. on 10:46 - Mar 1 with 2493 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

39% turn out. on 10:11 - Mar 1 by Cheltenham_Blue

We already have a none of the above option.
Draw a big cock on your paper, or a shi^^ing arse.

Its called spoiling your paper and the number of spoilt papers has to be recorded by law.

I don't get what difference a little box will make.


More cock votes.

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39% turn out. on 10:49 - Mar 1 with 2478 viewsCotty

The GE turnout will be far higher. I think I would've stayed at home if I lived in Rochdale.
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39% turn out. on 11:29 - Mar 1 with 2421 viewstractorboy1978

39% turn out. on 10:28 - Mar 1 by Pinewoodblue

I find the turnout at recent by elections worrying.

We have a government which, in the opinion of a big majority, is worse than useless but at the last three by elections less than 40% of the electorate bothered to vote.

With so many people supposedly sick & tired of this government you would expect this to lead to an increase in the number voting.
Doesn’t show a lot of faith in the alternatives available.


I'm personally expecting the next GE to be a Labour victory with the lowest voter turnout/highest number of spoiled votes in a long time.

The story of the election will be the number of people clearly totally disillusioned with the two biggest parties being 'two cheeks of the same backside' as Galloway put it last night. We have a Labour party that isn't really a Labour party and a Conservative party that isn't really a Conservative party.

A newly formed right of centre party will then come to the fore and start causing the sort of disruption the likes of Wilders and Le Pen are in the Netherlands and France.
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39% turn out. on 11:33 - Mar 1 with 2378 viewsBlueschev

39% turn out. on 11:29 - Mar 1 by tractorboy1978

I'm personally expecting the next GE to be a Labour victory with the lowest voter turnout/highest number of spoiled votes in a long time.

The story of the election will be the number of people clearly totally disillusioned with the two biggest parties being 'two cheeks of the same backside' as Galloway put it last night. We have a Labour party that isn't really a Labour party and a Conservative party that isn't really a Conservative party.

A newly formed right of centre party will then come to the fore and start causing the sort of disruption the likes of Wilders and Le Pen are in the Netherlands and France.


Both Wilders and Le Pen would be at home in the current Conservative Party.
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39% turn out. on 11:35 - Mar 1 with 2350 viewsGlasgowBlue

39% turn out. on 11:29 - Mar 1 by tractorboy1978

I'm personally expecting the next GE to be a Labour victory with the lowest voter turnout/highest number of spoiled votes in a long time.

The story of the election will be the number of people clearly totally disillusioned with the two biggest parties being 'two cheeks of the same backside' as Galloway put it last night. We have a Labour party that isn't really a Labour party and a Conservative party that isn't really a Conservative party.

A newly formed right of centre party will then come to the fore and start causing the sort of disruption the likes of Wilders and Le Pen are in the Netherlands and France.


The two cheeks of the same arsehole are the far right and the far left.


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39% turn out. on 11:51 - Mar 1 with 2301 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

39% turn out. on 11:35 - Mar 1 by GlasgowBlue

The two cheeks of the same arsehole are the far right and the far left.



George seems to have a point in his tweet there.

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39% turn out. on 11:58 - Mar 1 with 2271 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

39% turn out. on 11:51 - Mar 1 by BanksterDebtSlave

George seems to have a point in his tweet there.


Yeah he was another one gullible enough to think Farage and JRM would bring a glorious socialist LEXIT.

Fortunately now Brexit has been implemented we are all enjoying a union led labour market with huge, above inflation pay rises….
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39% turn out. on 12:25 - Mar 1 with 2225 viewsBlueschev

39% turn out. on 11:35 - Mar 1 by GlasgowBlue

The two cheeks of the same arsehole are the far right and the far left.



Galloway isn't far left, he's a populist chancer who plays both sides. Who knows what he actually thinks about immigration. He's just saying what he believes people want to hear.
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39% turn out. on 12:28 - Mar 1 with 2212 viewsCBBlue

39% turn out. on 10:11 - Mar 1 by Cheltenham_Blue

We already have a none of the above option.
Draw a big cock on your paper, or a shi^^ing arse.

Its called spoiling your paper and the number of spoilt papers has to be recorded by law.

I don't get what difference a little box will make.


In our local election last year 10% of the papers (including mine) were recorded as spoilt. Our choices were - Tory, Tory, Tory, Reform.

And then one of the Tories who (unsurprisingly) got elected had the cheek to moan about the number of people choosing the spoil their papers.

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39% turn out. on 12:55 - Mar 1 with 2173 viewsGlasgowBlue

39% turn out. on 12:25 - Mar 1 by Blueschev

Galloway isn't far left, he's a populist chancer who plays both sides. Who knows what he actually thinks about immigration. He's just saying what he believes people want to hear.


He’s a far left populist in the same way Farage is a far right populist .

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39% turn out. on 13:01 - Mar 1 with 2153 viewsBlueschev

39% turn out. on 12:55 - Mar 1 by GlasgowBlue

He’s a far left populist in the same way Farage is a far right populist .


Which of his policies are far left?
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