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He's gaslighting us now surely? 22:20 - Jun 20 with 2340 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

From the post-match interview:

Manager Gareth Southgate says England are struggling in midfield at Euro 2024 and have not found a “natural replacement for Kalvin Phillips”.

Ye gods.


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He's gaslighting us now surely? on 00:04 - Jun 21 with 2016 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

To be fair, the system worked better with a prime Kalvin Phillips.

But we do have plenty of options.

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He's gaslighting us now surely? on 04:56 - Jun 21 with 1800 viewsMK1

Gallagher can fill that roll. TAA isn't a midfielder, not in a 2 anyway.

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He's gaslighting us now surely? on 05:10 - Jun 21 with 1790 viewsitfcsuth

The best managers find solutions to problems.

We’ve had a year to find an alternative solution to Phillips since he’s been so far away for so long.

Still feel best option is Rice/Bellingham combo with Bellingham being a box to box role from a deeper start in the 4-2-3-1.

We have huge issues at left back as well, lack of balance, how Mitchell or Davis weren’t looked at more in friendlies is a crime, and how Chilwell or another didn’t go as secondary left back is also a crime.
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He's gaslighting us now surely? on 05:17 - Jun 21 with 1777 viewsMK1

He's gaslighting us now surely? on 05:10 - Jun 21 by itfcsuth

The best managers find solutions to problems.

We’ve had a year to find an alternative solution to Phillips since he’s been so far away for so long.

Still feel best option is Rice/Bellingham combo with Bellingham being a box to box role from a deeper start in the 4-2-3-1.

We have huge issues at left back as well, lack of balance, how Mitchell or Davis weren’t looked at more in friendlies is a crime, and how Chilwell or another didn’t go as secondary left back is also a crime.


Nothing wrong with the squad, just the way they are being asked to play. Best player in their best position and all this goes away. No shoehorning players to try and make it fit. Best team X1 and we will be fine. Sure Southgate knows this now. All will be good.

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He's gaslighting us now surely? on 06:15 - Jun 21 with 1684 viewsitfcsuth

He's gaslighting us now surely? on 05:17 - Jun 21 by MK1

Nothing wrong with the squad, just the way they are being asked to play. Best player in their best position and all this goes away. No shoehorning players to try and make it fit. Best team X1 and we will be fine. Sure Southgate knows this now. All will be good.


The squad is littered with talent, of course it is.

There is an issue with balance on the left though.

To take 4 right backs and 1 injured left back is ridiculous, and then to play a left midfielder who comes inside to play centrally with no Leif Davis esq left back to hold the width is strange in my mind.

You shouldn’t be at game 3 in a major tournament and be this disjointed if you’re serious about winning the competition.
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He's gaslighting us now surely? on 06:23 - Jun 21 with 1650 viewsChurchman

He's gaslighting us now surely? on 05:17 - Jun 21 by MK1

Nothing wrong with the squad, just the way they are being asked to play. Best player in their best position and all this goes away. No shoehorning players to try and make it fit. Best team X1 and we will be fine. Sure Southgate knows this now. All will be good.


The trouble is weak and clueless managers always shoehorn players in to make them fit. How many idiots tried to play Lampard and Gerrard in the same team?

Decide how you want to play and get in the best players for the positions in your system. I agree with the comment regarding left back. Taking a proper one might have been a good idea. Why take Shaw when he’s barely played and clearly not going to be match fit even if he does a Lazarus and tears himself away from his treatment table and comics.

Southgate could have done a lot worse than take Davis.
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He's gaslighting us now surely? on 07:39 - Jun 21 with 1399 viewsBattersea_Blue

He's gaslighting us now surely? on 05:17 - Jun 21 by MK1

Nothing wrong with the squad, just the way they are being asked to play. Best player in their best position and all this goes away. No shoehorning players to try and make it fit. Best team X1 and we will be fine. Sure Southgate knows this now. All will be good.


All maybe good if Shaw is fit for the knockout stage, if we even get through, as Slovenia looked pretty good against Serbia and the 2nd half against Denmark.

In my humble opinion Southgate has lost the plot. How he can't get a tune out of an attacking quartet of Saka, Foden, Bellingham and Kane is beyond me.

So many bad performances last night. Even Rice was giving the ball away and the time he smacked it straight out for a corner was ridiculous.

In both Serbia and Denmark games it looked like they had 14 players on the pitch. They both closed us down extremely well, many times when an England player got the ball there were 3 of them all over him.

No energy, lethargic, pedestrian, no plan B and some players hiding at times. Didn't even look as if we had a plan A the majority of the time.

Woeful in both games imho and simply not good enough with the talent we have.
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He's gaslighting us now surely? on 07:40 - Jun 21 with 1407 viewsHighgateBlue

Yes that was a stand out line! I reckon he's got posters of Kalvin on his wall...

On a slightly different note - there was a lot of talk here recently about certain female pundits. I'm really sorry for not knowing the name of the female interviewer who questioned Southgate after the game, but I just wanted to say that I thought she did an excellent job.

At that moment the whole country was very frustrated and really wanted answers, and even the BBC pundits (the English ones at least) were unanimous and equally frustrated. So it was a really important post-match interview.

The questions put to Southgate pulled no punches and were admirably specific. Not just "talk us through X...?", or "how important is Y...?" (where Y is something blindingly obvious that needs to happen). First, setting him up with a general question that allows him to accept that the performance wasn't tip top, then asking whether it's HIM that's making them defend too deep, then implying that one of his specific team selection issues isn't working (TAA), then repeating that last question when he batted it off. Then dealing with another specific issue in Kane, and Southgate's failure to get the attack firing. Then asking what he needs to do now. So that we either know he gets it or has his head in the clouds, and can hold him to account later.

Not rocket science, but serious, to the point, SPECIFIC, and respectful enough.

And I suppose, well done to Southgate for not throwing toys when it got personal. We've all seen enough youtube videos of managers storming out of press conferences when their role is criticised.

On the Kalvin Phillips point, although it's a hilarious line, England do have an embarrassment of riches further up the park, but don't have an obvious partner for Rice who has experience. I'd be tempted to try Mainoo. Whilst I, like many, just shoved all of our best attacking players into a pre-tournament 'what I'd do' XI, we wouldn't seriously expect Kieran to take Morsy or Luongo out of the starting XI and replace him with a Sarmiento or a Jackson. England's midfield is looking all wrong at the moment, but I don't think the Keegan approach is necessarily the answer. Would be more entertaining than last night, mind...
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He's gaslighting us now surely? on 08:08 - Jun 21 with 1334 viewsBattersea_Blue

He's gaslighting us now surely? on 07:40 - Jun 21 by HighgateBlue

Yes that was a stand out line! I reckon he's got posters of Kalvin on his wall...

On a slightly different note - there was a lot of talk here recently about certain female pundits. I'm really sorry for not knowing the name of the female interviewer who questioned Southgate after the game, but I just wanted to say that I thought she did an excellent job.

At that moment the whole country was very frustrated and really wanted answers, and even the BBC pundits (the English ones at least) were unanimous and equally frustrated. So it was a really important post-match interview.

The questions put to Southgate pulled no punches and were admirably specific. Not just "talk us through X...?", or "how important is Y...?" (where Y is something blindingly obvious that needs to happen). First, setting him up with a general question that allows him to accept that the performance wasn't tip top, then asking whether it's HIM that's making them defend too deep, then implying that one of his specific team selection issues isn't working (TAA), then repeating that last question when he batted it off. Then dealing with another specific issue in Kane, and Southgate's failure to get the attack firing. Then asking what he needs to do now. So that we either know he gets it or has his head in the clouds, and can hold him to account later.

Not rocket science, but serious, to the point, SPECIFIC, and respectful enough.

And I suppose, well done to Southgate for not throwing toys when it got personal. We've all seen enough youtube videos of managers storming out of press conferences when their role is criticised.

On the Kalvin Phillips point, although it's a hilarious line, England do have an embarrassment of riches further up the park, but don't have an obvious partner for Rice who has experience. I'd be tempted to try Mainoo. Whilst I, like many, just shoved all of our best attacking players into a pre-tournament 'what I'd do' XI, we wouldn't seriously expect Kieran to take Morsy or Luongo out of the starting XI and replace him with a Sarmiento or a Jackson. England's midfield is looking all wrong at the moment, but I don't think the Keegan approach is necessarily the answer. Would be more entertaining than last night, mind...


Absolutely agree with you about that female interviewer. I didn't catch who it was either, but superb, direct and insightful questioning put over in exactly the correct, respectful way.

They were the questions we all wanted to ask.
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He's gaslighting us now surely? on 09:05 - Jun 21 with 1108 viewsRobTheMonk

I hope that puts an end to the Trent midfield experiment. Ward Prowse would have been a good option, especially with how pedestrian we play.

If you don’t have a player that’s a natural replacement for your system, you tweak the system to accommodate someone else. It’s not rocket science.
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