| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah 22:39 - Jul 27 with 9334 views | GlasgowBlue |
whilst playing football in northern Israel, with dozens more wounded?
Would have been sure [redacted] [redacted] and [redacted], who normally post with such outrage when innocents are brutally murdered by rockets, would have been all over this as soon as the news hit. Oddly enough they had nothing to say about the Russian bombing of the children's hospital in Ukraine as well.
Surely there will be protest marches across British cities tomorrow in support of those murdered and condemning the terrorists? |  |
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| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 16:39 - Jul 28 with 2490 views | JackNorthStand |
Those causing harm on both sides are evil. And that’s both sides, fact. Have these idiots learnt nothing from years of war and death. |  | | |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 19:04 - Jul 28 with 2382 views | Hiphopopotamus |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 11:21 - Jul 28 by GlasgowBlue |
Calling out the rank hypocrisy of those who have been using the situation in Gaza for exactly what you are accusing me of is not point scoring.
Russia bombs a children's hospital in Ukraine.Not a peep out of the those who were quick enough to link Hamas propaganda on here and falsely accuse Israel of bombing the al-Ahli Hospital, when in fact it was a rocket sent to kill Israelis by Palestinian Islamic Jihad that fell short.
The people who profess to care about Arab children start thread after thread of moral outrage when they are killed by the Israelis. But when Arab Druze children, who live in peaceful coexistence with the Jewish people (apartheid not) are killed by Islamist terrorists it’s all Whatabouttery and context.
I guess some Arab children’s lives are more important than others.
Of course these are the same people who condemn Israel for the lack of aid coming in through their border with Gaza but say nothing about the fact that not a single bag of grain has entered Gaza from it border with Egypt.
The same people who weren’t outraged enough to post when 160,000 Palestinian refugees were displaced when Assad bombed the fcuk out of the Yarmouk refugee camp.
The same people who turned their gaze away when the Egyptian Prime Minister said “We are prepared to sacrifice millions of [Palestinian] lives to ensure that no one encroaches upon our territory,”
As always it’s no Jews no news.
I'm not looking to score points, although as an avid downvoter of my posts through the years your post certainly is. I'm exposing the rank hypocrisy of so board members who pick and chose which atrocities is worthy of the virtue signaling.
Meanwhile the world’s only Jewish state is attacked every day since October 8th from the north by Hezbollah, attacked from the south by Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad, attacked by the Houthis in Yemen and attacked by the Iranians, yet its Israeli who are the aggressors. |
“Meanwhile the world’s only Jewish state is attacked every day since October 8th from the north by Hezbollah, attacked from the south by Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad, attacked by the Houthis in Yemen and attacked by the Iranians, yet its Israeli who are the aggressors”.
THIS IS A VERY COMPLETE AND ACCURATE PORTRAYAL OF EVENTS!!!!! [Post edited 28 Jul 2024 20:55]
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| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 19:17 - Jul 28 with 2337 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 11:21 - Jul 28 by GlasgowBlue |
Calling out the rank hypocrisy of those who have been using the situation in Gaza for exactly what you are accusing me of is not point scoring.
Russia bombs a children's hospital in Ukraine.Not a peep out of the those who were quick enough to link Hamas propaganda on here and falsely accuse Israel of bombing the al-Ahli Hospital, when in fact it was a rocket sent to kill Israelis by Palestinian Islamic Jihad that fell short.
The people who profess to care about Arab children start thread after thread of moral outrage when they are killed by the Israelis. But when Arab Druze children, who live in peaceful coexistence with the Jewish people (apartheid not) are killed by Islamist terrorists it’s all Whatabouttery and context.
I guess some Arab children’s lives are more important than others.
Of course these are the same people who condemn Israel for the lack of aid coming in through their border with Gaza but say nothing about the fact that not a single bag of grain has entered Gaza from it border with Egypt.
The same people who weren’t outraged enough to post when 160,000 Palestinian refugees were displaced when Assad bombed the fcuk out of the Yarmouk refugee camp.
The same people who turned their gaze away when the Egyptian Prime Minister said “We are prepared to sacrifice millions of [Palestinian] lives to ensure that no one encroaches upon our territory,”
As always it’s no Jews no news.
I'm not looking to score points, although as an avid downvoter of my posts through the years your post certainly is. I'm exposing the rank hypocrisy of so board members who pick and chose which atrocities is worthy of the virtue signaling.
Meanwhile the world’s only Jewish state is attacked every day since October 8th from the north by Hezbollah, attacked from the south by Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad, attacked by the Houthis in Yemen and attacked by the Iranians, yet its Israeli who are the aggressors. |
But the thing is it is only Israel’s atrocities that some seek to excuse in the name of self defence. Why would anyone need to condemn that which is inexcusable as in your other examples. |  |
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| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 20:15 - Jul 28 with 2259 views | NthQldITFC |
Biden's administration being an enabler of Netanyahu's murderous regime sickens me. The imbalance in local power and casualty rates in relation to Western outrage is another thing which sickens me. |  |
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| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 20:35 - Jul 28 with 2219 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 12:12 - Jul 28 by Hiphopopotamus |
I’M JUST GLAD BRITAIN IS STAYING NEUTRAL AND NOT SUPPLYING WEAPONS TO ANYONE INVOLVED!!!! [Post edited 28 Jul 2024 12:12]
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Can you advise exactly what weapons we are supplying Israel?
Is it not the fact that we just supply a few components that are used in the manufacturing of fighter aircraft - to the value per annum of about 1 x Omari Hutchinson?
I've kept well away of Palestine / Israel threads and for good reason.
Looking at some of the rubbish posted about it it might be a good idea for some others to do the same. More distastefully it's become a numbers tit for tat.
Most normal Israelis and Palestinians just want to live their lives, unfortunately they are governed by a maniac using his position to avoid a prison sentence and a genuine world leading terrorist organisation respectively. [Post edited 29 Jul 2024 7:35]
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| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 21:02 - Jul 28 with 2146 views | Lord_Lucan |
Your post pretty much backs everything I said up.
Data on exports to Israel
Since 2008, the UK has licenced arms worth over £576 million to Israel, according to analysis of Government export data by CAAT, a UK based pressure group that seeks an end to the global arms trade.
****The value of licences granted has declined from £42 million in 2022 to £18.2 million in 2023.****
On 13 June 2024, the government published data on licences granted to Israel since 7 October 2023 as an ad hoc publication. This followed pressure from MPs and the chair of the Business and Trade Committee to release such statistics. According to this publication, the government issued 42 licences between 7 October 2023 and 31 May 2024. [Post edited 28 Jul 2024 21:03]
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| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 21:14 - Jul 28 with 2103 views | Hiphopopotamus |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 21:02 - Jul 28 by Lord_Lucan |
Your post pretty much backs everything I said up.
Data on exports to Israel
Since 2008, the UK has licenced arms worth over £576 million to Israel, according to analysis of Government export data by CAAT, a UK based pressure group that seeks an end to the global arms trade.
****The value of licences granted has declined from £42 million in 2022 to £18.2 million in 2023.****
On 13 June 2024, the government published data on licences granted to Israel since 7 October 2023 as an ad hoc publication. This followed pressure from MPs and the chair of the Business and Trade Committee to release such statistics. According to this publication, the government issued 42 licences between 7 October 2023 and 31 May 2024. [Post edited 28 Jul 2024 21:03]
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“The true value of the UK’s exports to Israel is likely to be much higher. The way the system works also allows companies to sell unlimited amounts of specified equipment under ‘open licences’ without reporting its value”.
https://www.greenpeace.org.uk/news/why-the-uk-must-stop-selling-weapons-to-israe
YES, WE’RE ONLY PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE. SOMETHING WE CAN ALL FEEL VERY PATRIOTIC ABOUT!!!! | | | |
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| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 21:22 - Jul 28 with 2075 views | Churchman |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 19:04 - Jul 28 by Hiphopopotamus |
“Meanwhile the world’s only Jewish state is attacked every day since October 8th from the north by Hezbollah, attacked from the south by Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad, attacked by the Houthis in Yemen and attacked by the Iranians, yet its Israeli who are the aggressors”.
THIS IS A VERY COMPLETE AND ACCURATE PORTRAYAL OF EVENTS!!!!! [Post edited 28 Jul 2024 20:55]
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While I’m sure you have full and complete knowledge of all the facts (I do not so will not comment on this subject), why all the capital letters in your posts? |  | | |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 21:23 - Jul 28 with 2071 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 21:02 - Jul 28 by Lord_Lucan |
Your post pretty much backs everything I said up.
Data on exports to Israel
Since 2008, the UK has licenced arms worth over £576 million to Israel, according to analysis of Government export data by CAAT, a UK based pressure group that seeks an end to the global arms trade.
****The value of licences granted has declined from £42 million in 2022 to £18.2 million in 2023.****
On 13 June 2024, the government published data on licences granted to Israel since 7 October 2023 as an ad hoc publication. This followed pressure from MPs and the chair of the Business and Trade Committee to release such statistics. According to this publication, the government issued 42 licences between 7 October 2023 and 31 May 2024. [Post edited 28 Jul 2024 21:03]
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I don’t think you can understate the UK’s involvement as “just supplying a few components”. The planes we help source and arm killed at least 50 just this weekend https://amp.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/27/israeli-airstrikes-that-hi (Guardian link sorry, but it’s because they have no paywall and rank high in search engines). We’re contributing to the slaughter of people in the Middle East. Any life list through this conflict is one too many and Israeli jets are taking as many lives as anyone.
I don’t blame you for steering clear of posts on this. I try to do the same. It’s unhealthily polarised and I can’t see how people arguing and point scoring from the safety of their UK homes is in any way respectful to the tens of thousands of lives lost to this conflict. |  |
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| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 21:31 - Jul 28 with 2049 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 21:23 - Jul 28 by Swansea_Blue |
I don’t think you can understate the UK’s involvement as “just supplying a few components”. The planes we help source and arm killed at least 50 just this weekend https://amp.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/27/israeli-airstrikes-that-hi (Guardian link sorry, but it’s because they have no paywall and rank high in search engines). We’re contributing to the slaughter of people in the Middle East. Any life list through this conflict is one too many and Israeli jets are taking as many lives as anyone.
I don’t blame you for steering clear of posts on this. I try to do the same. It’s unhealthily polarised and I can’t see how people arguing and point scoring from the safety of their UK homes is in any way respectful to the tens of thousands of lives lost to this conflict. |
The reason I bought up the component facts are because the way some people comment about how we "Arm Israel" , it is pretty obvious they actually believe we send them hundreds of tonnes of missiles.
Must be a full moon tonight, TW4TD div brigade is off the scale this evening. [Post edited 28 Jul 2024 21:32]
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| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 21:33 - Jul 28 with 2044 views | Hiphopopotamus |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 21:22 - Jul 28 by Churchman |
While I’m sure you have full and complete knowledge of all the facts (I do not so will not comment on this subject), why all the capital letters in your posts? |
SIMPLY EXCITED MY MAIN SOURCE FOR IMPARTIAL AND GOOD-FAITH ACCOUNTS OF CURRENT AFFAIRS HAD NAILED IT AGAIN!!!!! | | | |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 21:37 - Jul 28 with 2031 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 21:22 - Jul 28 by Churchman |
While I’m sure you have full and complete knowledge of all the facts (I do not so will not comment on this subject), why all the capital letters in your posts? |
Perhaps he’s talking about the quarter of a million missiles Iran has proliferated across the region to enable its proxies to attack Israel and the West. The US as the biggest supplier of weapons to Isreal needs to attach conditions to its use. Much of it goes into keeping the Iron Dome operational - crucial at a time Hezbollah are pushing for all out conflict. Hezbollah are armed with suicide drones , guided missiles and heavy artillery. They are better armed than the Lebanese state, and as such have de facto control of southern Lebanon and the Israeli border. They are itching to spread the war to Lebanon, with the Lebanese military and state powerless to intervene.
The Houthis are also causing the biggest hunger problem in the region - far worse than in Gaza, with millions going hungry and on the verge of starvation. At the moment the entire region is a tinder box, completely cutting weapons supplies is going to lead to a vacuum which Iran will take advantage of. Unfortunately Biden has been weak on Israel - the USA could have pressured Israel into a ceasefire (leveraging military aid) with the details to be worked out after. Netanyahu unfortunately is a sociopath, and is clinging on to power at the cost of tens of thousands of Palestinians dead. What a mess. [Post edited 28 Jul 2024 21:38]
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| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 21:38 - Jul 28 with 2026 views | Churchman |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 21:33 - Jul 28 by Hiphopopotamus |
SIMPLY EXCITED MY MAIN SOURCE FOR IMPARTIAL AND GOOD-FAITH ACCOUNTS OF CURRENT AFFAIRS HAD NAILED IT AGAIN!!!!! |
From my limited experience there is no such thing as impartial when it comes to news reporting and it’s very rare for there to be complete or even partial accuracy.
Regardless, you are the expert on this subject but capitals are distracting and unnecessary. Just my view - others may disagree. | | | |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 22:25 - Jul 28 with 1950 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 21:37 - Jul 28 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Perhaps he’s talking about the quarter of a million missiles Iran has proliferated across the region to enable its proxies to attack Israel and the West. The US as the biggest supplier of weapons to Isreal needs to attach conditions to its use. Much of it goes into keeping the Iron Dome operational - crucial at a time Hezbollah are pushing for all out conflict. Hezbollah are armed with suicide drones , guided missiles and heavy artillery. They are better armed than the Lebanese state, and as such have de facto control of southern Lebanon and the Israeli border. They are itching to spread the war to Lebanon, with the Lebanese military and state powerless to intervene.
The Houthis are also causing the biggest hunger problem in the region - far worse than in Gaza, with millions going hungry and on the verge of starvation. At the moment the entire region is a tinder box, completely cutting weapons supplies is going to lead to a vacuum which Iran will take advantage of. Unfortunately Biden has been weak on Israel - the USA could have pressured Israel into a ceasefire (leveraging military aid) with the details to be worked out after. Netanyahu unfortunately is a sociopath, and is clinging on to power at the cost of tens of thousands of Palestinians dead. What a mess. [Post edited 28 Jul 2024 21:38]
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How have you come to the conclusion that Hezbollah are pushing for all out conflict when their stated position is that all operations will cease when a ceasefire is announced in Gaza? | |
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| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 23:05 - Jul 28 with 1894 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 22:25 - Jul 28 by BanksterDebtSlave |
How have you come to the conclusion that Hezbollah are pushing for all out conflict when their stated position is that all operations will cease when a ceasefire is announced in Gaza? |
“all operations will cease when a ceasefire is announced in Gaza?”
Weird that you’d believe that, I’ve got some magic beans to sell you. This is a group that went to war with Israel in 2006 and has attacked Isreal virtually every day since (whilst killing UN peacekeepers on the border). They are the most heavily armed no -state entity in the world, they aren’t going to pack up and behave. | | | |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 23:16 - Jul 28 with 1876 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 23:05 - Jul 28 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
“all operations will cease when a ceasefire is announced in Gaza?”
Weird that you’d believe that, I’ve got some magic beans to sell you. This is a group that went to war with Israel in 2006 and has attacked Isreal virtually every day since (whilst killing UN peacekeepers on the border). They are the most heavily armed no -state entity in the world, they aren’t going to pack up and behave. |
Thanks for confirming you just made it up. Guess what, if they wanted an all out conflict I think they wouldn't find it too hard to get one if wished.
All just goes to confirm that Netanyahu had no interest in a ceasefire or releasing hostages alive. | |
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| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 01:06 - Jul 29 with 1835 views | Europablue |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 00:40 - Jul 28 by BlueBadger |
Gotta love the the old 'you can't trust reliable sources' grift. |
The BBC feels like a reliable source until you know something about the subject and they state opinion as fact. Articles about the two topics I know a lot about: ITFC and videogames are often either full of mistakes or poorly put together and written badly. Other sites like the Telegraph and the Guardian are very biased in one direction and particularly the Telegraph are clickbaiting and producing articles for engagement rather than newsworthiness. | | | |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 01:15 - Jul 29 with 1827 views | mutters |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 00:40 - Jul 28 by BlueBadger |
Gotta love the the old 'you can't trust reliable sources' grift. |
Absolutely, in a world when they have no real counter argument, they start attacking the source that is being used to explain why they are wrong.
Absolutely textbook play from extremists/head in the sand |  |
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| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 06:59 - Jul 29 with 1749 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 23:16 - Jul 28 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Thanks for confirming you just made it up. Guess what, if they wanted an all out conflict I think they wouldn't find it too hard to get one if wished.
All just goes to confirm that Netanyahu had no interest in a ceasefire or releasing hostages alive. |
Bloody hell banksy. We’ve seen you push Hamas propaganda on here and refuse to delete it when it was proven to be false, side with the Houthis, and now you are taking what terrorist group Hezbollah say at face value.
Your hatred of Israel has brought you to a very dark place.
BTW, Since October 8th, Hezbollah launched 2,295 attacks against Israel, killing people, destroying hundreds of homes, displacing tens of thousands of people. Does that look like a group who want peace in the region? | |
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| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 07:32 - Jul 29 with 1709 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 06:59 - Jul 29 by GlasgowBlue |
Bloody hell banksy. We’ve seen you push Hamas propaganda on here and refuse to delete it when it was proven to be false, side with the Houthis, and now you are taking what terrorist group Hezbollah say at face value.
Your hatred of Israel has brought you to a very dark place.
BTW, Since October 8th, Hezbollah launched 2,295 attacks against Israel, killing people, destroying hundreds of homes, displacing tens of thousands of people. Does that look like a group who want peace in the region? |
There was no point in deleting that and making a thread meaningless and my information was not directly sourced from Hamas. Side with the Houthis, I don't think so and as opposed to who? Hate Israel, did you misspell Nethanyahu's right wing government?
So you think Hezbollah fancy a full on Israeli invasion of Lebanon?
Anyway you keep doing you.....disingenuous as ever.
Edit...strange you keep bringing up that solitary incident in Gaza...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/29/conflict-monitor-names-pal
'Airwars was able to name 65 people killed in what is believed to have been an Israeli airstrike on a market in Jabalia refugee camp on 9 October, the most deadly single incident covered by in the initial period, the first two and a half weeks of a war that has now lasted more than nine months.'
'Each death recorded is linked to one of 346 specific incidents examined so far – “we know how and when each person was killed,” Tripp said – and the aim of Airwars is to produce a dossier on each episode that could serve as the basis of future efforts to achieve accountability.
Children represented the largest single group of those recorded as killed by Airwars, at 1,129 or 37.7%, while 28.4% were men and 23.5% women. Ages of the remainder were unknown and so could not be firmly categorised.' [Post edited 29 Jul 2024 7:46]
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| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 07:59 - Jul 29 with 1659 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 23:16 - Jul 28 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Thanks for confirming you just made it up. Guess what, if they wanted an all out conflict I think they wouldn't find it too hard to get one if wished.
All just goes to confirm that Netanyahu had no interest in a ceasefire or releasing hostages alive. |
“I think they wouldn't find it too hard to get one if wished”
So you agree that’s what they are pushing for then. They have been stockpiling weapons and are far more heavily armed than when they conducted their last war with Isreal in 2006.
Perhaps you’d like to read about some of their atrocities before taking their word at face value:-
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-hezbollah
Once this conflict is over, Hezbollah will conduct cross border raids into Israel, and frequent shelling and missile strikes as they did before (and is one of the main reasons Israel is so reliant on its Iron Dome). The UN force on the border may as well not be there. I know you like to view everything though a black and white lens, but Hezbollah are bad actors (to put it mildly), and Netanyahu is a murderous despot - it’s not either/or. [Post edited 29 Jul 2024 8:17]
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| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 08:21 - Jul 29 with 1621 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 07:59 - Jul 29 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
“I think they wouldn't find it too hard to get one if wished”
So you agree that’s what they are pushing for then. They have been stockpiling weapons and are far more heavily armed than when they conducted their last war with Isreal in 2006.
Perhaps you’d like to read about some of their atrocities before taking their word at face value:-
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-hezbollah
Once this conflict is over, Hezbollah will conduct cross border raids into Israel, and frequent shelling and missile strikes as they did before (and is one of the main reasons Israel is so reliant on its Iron Dome). The UN force on the border may as well not be there. I know you like to view everything though a black and white lens, but Hezbollah are bad actors (to put it mildly), and Netanyahu is a murderous despot - it’s not either/or. [Post edited 29 Jul 2024 8:17]
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We got there in the end then...so things will likely, in time, return to what was before after a ceasefire is your new position not "an all out conflict!" It's like pulling teeth at times on here. | |
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| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 08:47 - Jul 29 with 1591 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 08:21 - Jul 29 by BanksterDebtSlave |
We got there in the end then...so things will likely, in time, return to what was before after a ceasefire is your new position not "an all out conflict!" It's like pulling teeth at times on here. |
I hope you are right regarding escalation, and the analysts are wrong. | | | |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 09:16 - Jul 29 with 1546 views | Hiphopopotamus |
| Nothing about the 11 Druze children killed by Hezbollah on 21:38 - Jul 28 by Churchman |
From my limited experience there is no such thing as impartial when it comes to news reporting and it’s very rare for there to be complete or even partial accuracy.
Regardless, you are the expert on this subject but capitals are distracting and unnecessary. Just my view - others may disagree. |
IF YOU’RE DISTRACTED BY SOME CAPITAL LETTERS, I SURE HOPE YOU DON’T FIND OUT ABOUT BRITAINS COMPLICITY IN AN ON-GOING GENOCIDE!!!!!!!! | | | |
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