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Declan Rice red card 09:18 - Sep 2 with 5765 viewsPinewoodblue

Disappointed Ref hasn’t been man enough to admit he made a mistake.

OK Rice did kick the ball away but since it was still moving he didn’t delay play as kick would have had to be taken again.


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Declan Rice red card on 14:46 - Sep 2 with 1112 viewsReusersTown

Declan Rice red card on 11:03 - Sep 2 by PhilTWTD

Shouldn't the Brighton player have been sent off for deliberately kicking Rice? I can see why the ref sent Rice off for kicking the ball away but the greater offence was surely the Brighton playing kicking him.


It can easily be argued that he wasn't trying to kick Rice who steps across to nudge the ball away. I also don't think he would have made contact with Rice if it wasn't for Rice's actions.
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Declan Rice red card on 16:01 - Sep 2 with 1059 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

Declan Rice red card on 14:46 - Sep 2 by ReusersTown

It can easily be argued that he wasn't trying to kick Rice who steps across to nudge the ball away. I also don't think he would have made contact with Rice if it wasn't for Rice's actions.


What, so the Brighton player was trying to welly the moving ball away? This thread is bizarre

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Declan Rice red card on 16:09 - Sep 2 with 1034 viewsgoperryrevs

Declan Rice red card on 16:01 - Sep 2 by C_HealyIsAPleasure

What, so the Brighton player was trying to welly the moving ball away? This thread is bizarre


People are quick to point out that Declan Rice 'knew what he was doing'. If so, it's a huge strain to suggest Veltman didn't know exactly what he was doing too. Rice was looking at the ref most of the time, and only glanced down at the ball as he was walking away and nudged it (kicked is too strong a word).

A reasonable ref would have had a chat with both of them, and maybe booked Veltman. If they're really wanting to get their cards out, send them both off. Just giving Rice a second yellow was bizarre.
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Declan Rice red card on 16:46 - Sep 2 with 998 viewsBiGDonnie

Ha! Ol Speccy Deccy can do one. Sh*t player, glad he got booked.

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Declan Rice red card on 16:51 - Sep 2 with 992 viewsPhilTWTD

Declan Rice red card on 16:09 - Sep 2 by goperryrevs

People are quick to point out that Declan Rice 'knew what he was doing'. If so, it's a huge strain to suggest Veltman didn't know exactly what he was doing too. Rice was looking at the ref most of the time, and only glanced down at the ball as he was walking away and nudged it (kicked is too strong a word).

A reasonable ref would have had a chat with both of them, and maybe booked Veltman. If they're really wanting to get their cards out, send them both off. Just giving Rice a second yellow was bizarre.


Agreed, if he was going to be card happy then both should have gone. Veltman clearly knew what he was doing.
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Declan Rice red card on 17:10 - Sep 2 with 957 viewsReusersTown

Declan Rice red card on 16:51 - Sep 2 by PhilTWTD

Agreed, if he was going to be card happy then both should have gone. Veltman clearly knew what he was doing.


Isn't that the proof in point though. All anyone is able to say about Veltman is that he "knew what he was doing" an interpretation. Whereas it's pretty clear what Rice did kicking the ball away, which is why he got booked and Veltman didn't get punished.
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Declan Rice red card on 17:16 - Sep 2 with 944 viewsReusersTown

Declan Rice red card on 16:01 - Sep 2 by C_HealyIsAPleasure

What, so the Brighton player was trying to welly the moving ball away? This thread is bizarre


He'd rolled the ball, it was about to stop.
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Declan Rice red card on 17:17 - Sep 2 with 941 viewsPhilTWTD

Declan Rice red card on 17:10 - Sep 2 by ReusersTown

Isn't that the proof in point though. All anyone is able to say about Veltman is that he "knew what he was doing" an interpretation. Whereas it's pretty clear what Rice did kicking the ball away, which is why he got booked and Veltman didn't get punished.


He was clearly deliberately kicking Rice, that's what I mean by he knew what he was doing! That it wasn't done accidentally.
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Declan Rice red card on 21:03 - Sep 2 with 802 viewsITFC_History

Declan Rice red card on 17:17 - Sep 2 by PhilTWTD

He was clearly deliberately kicking Rice, that's what I mean by he knew what he was doing! That it wasn't done accidentally.


Clear look at the incident here.
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Declan Rice red card on 21:21 - Sep 2 with 787 viewsGeoffSentence

Declan Rice red card on 09:28 - Sep 2 by BrentwoodBlagger2

The mistake by the ref was not yellow carding the Brighton player for blasting the ball away in the first half when it was clearly out for a throw in.


I dont know what the rules say regarding that, but given there is a multiball system it's not like him kicking the ball down the line was delaying anything. Whoever went to take the throw still had a ball or two to choose from in the vicinity of the throw in. Would have felt harsh to book him, for me.

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Declan Rice red card on 21:36 - Sep 2 with 776 viewsTrequartista

Declan Rice red card on 21:03 - Sep 2 by ITFC_History

Clear look at the incident here.


The Brighton player actually looks up the field as if to see where he is going to send the free-kick, but is that all part of the act as he must know he can't kick a moving ball.

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Declan Rice red card on 07:16 - Sep 3 with 662 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

Declan Rice red card on 17:16 - Sep 2 by ReusersTown

He'd rolled the ball, it was about to stop.


He rolled the ball into Rice (it has already touched Rice before he nudged it away), Rice was still going to be there whether he nudged it away or not and the kick was nearly knee high. Other than that though, he was definitely just trying to take the free kick

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