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Can we just sit back & enjoy him for a few weeks (as long as he's fit) please, without worrying about yet another thing that might be a negative further down the line. These are the good times, let's just bask in the sun while we can :)
I agree. It’s the same with Kieran. We’re lucky to have him. Enjoy him while we’ve got him and let the future take care of itself.
As good as Delap is now, and a ceiling for even higher - he ain’t shifting Haaland out of the starting lineup.
That said, in the medium term he’ll almost certainly be sold for a huge profit (assuming his current trajectory). As Coventry are proving, selling and reinvesting in the squad is not as easy as Brighton make it look.
Had this chat with my son..
If he is the next big thing. I hope the buyback is around the £50 mill mark.
The danger is city buying him back to sell on and gain a big profit if its less than that.
If he is the next big thing. I hope the buyback is around the £50 mill mark.
The danger is city buying him back to sell on and gain a big profit if its less than that.
As an example, these were the reported buy back clauses that Chelsea agreed for Ake and Abraham;
Ake - Sold for £20m, buy back fee £40m.
Abraham - Sold for £34m, buy back fee £68m.
Cant find any reports stating City buy back fee's, but the above two deals suggest 2 x original transfer fee might be the norm.
Reports on the Douglas Luiz sale to Villa suggest their buy back clause ended after 2 years.
EDIT: This report suggests Citys buy back fee for James Trafford is 3 x original fee.
"Transfer expert Fabrizio Romano is reporting that ‘Trafford has already completed medical tests’ ahead of his move to Burnley. He is understood to cost them an initial £14m (plus £5m extra in potential add-ons).
Romano has also pointed out that ‘Man City‘s buy-back clause is triple the fee Burnley are paying for Trafford’ (which equates to at least £42m)."
Isn't the buy-back clause only activated should we decide to sell?
If it's a proper, fully-fledged buy-back clause then no - we will have agreed a personal release fee for City to buy the player back, irrespective of our own desires, but there could still be conditions written into the terms like 'can't be activated in winter transfer windows'. If we do lose him this way then we'll likely make a decent profit (just maybe not superstar money) and will certainly have benefitted from his time here.
Sure, easily available on the internet (not knocking you for having been unaware of it mind, as it wasn't relevant this summer sadly for Hull). It speaks to how reluctant Villa were to part with him probably, while also respecting the reason why Hull signed him (to get out of the league, so the clause couldn't be activated until Hull had completed their objective).
Sure, easily available on the internet (not knocking you for having been unaware of it mind, as it wasn't relevant this summer sadly for Hull). It speaks to how reluctant Villa were to part with him probably, while also respecting the reason why Hull signed him (to get out of the league, so the clause couldn't be activated until Hull had completed their objective).
It sounds like the Hull VC doesnt even know how it works! The last para makes no sense if its a buy back rather than matching rights.🤣....
The Tigers' vice-chairman says having the £15m valuation on Philogene now gives City a base to work from should they receive interest in the pacey winger in the future.
"There is a value that has been put on an identified performance, which is good. Maybe he can never reach there or he can bypass there, but at least for the market, for the industry, we know what he can be worth to leave our club," he explained. "If someone comes in and offers less than his buy-back value, do we consider it? Should we consider it? Probably not. It's a good thing. And having another big club on your side and being able to have some part in Jaden's development plan is good.
"If we promote (to the Premier League), Villa have the right to buy him back for £15m. Having said that, if we have another offer that's worth more than £15m then we would have the right to discuss it, it's not like we're forced to sell to Villa but they would have the first choice and that's part of our agreement.
It sounds like the Hull VC doesnt even know how it works! The last para makes no sense if its a buy back rather than matching rights.🤣....
The Tigers' vice-chairman says having the £15m valuation on Philogene now gives City a base to work from should they receive interest in the pacey winger in the future.
"There is a value that has been put on an identified performance, which is good. Maybe he can never reach there or he can bypass there, but at least for the market, for the industry, we know what he can be worth to leave our club," he explained. "If someone comes in and offers less than his buy-back value, do we consider it? Should we consider it? Probably not. It's a good thing. And having another big club on your side and being able to have some part in Jaden's development plan is good.
"If we promote (to the Premier League), Villa have the right to buy him back for £15m. Having said that, if we have another offer that's worth more than £15m then we would have the right to discuss it, it's not like we're forced to sell to Villa but they would have the first choice and that's part of our agreement.
Yes he contradicts himself and introduces ambiguity at the end doesn't he, after having clearly laid out the framework in most of the article. My guess is he wanted to more staunchly defend Hull's position in front of local media and inflated their control over the situation at the end. If the fee is fixed at £15m and Villa has the right to exercise it following promotion, clearly Hull's discussions wouldn't amount to much unless they were negotiating a sale in the division below, as happened this summer. Sky covered it as a straightforward buy-back option on condition of promotion at the time, without Hull VC's off-script message at the end.
Interestingly the VC does into some detail about the process: how players agree salary / terms with the buy-back club in the event the option is taken, to protect the buy-back club from a potentially uncooperative player later down the line.
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