| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against 16:29 - Oct 27 with 10190 views | ibbleobble |
KM said there’s no point reflecting on questionable decisions as they even out during the course of the season. Let’s keep this thread going and add to it as the season progresses to see where it nets out:
AGAINST:
1 - vs Man City: Sam Alisson awards a free-kick for a Davis foul on Savio. VAR overrules and awards a penalty, which Haaland converts (VAR official: David Coote).
2 - vs Man City: Sam Alisson fails to award a penalty for a trip on Davis in the box (VAR official: David Coote).
3 - vs Everton: Michael Oliver awards a penalty for a trip on Clarke but VAR overrules it (VAR official: Graham Scott).
4 - vs Brentford: Lewis Smith awards a free kick and yellow card for a foul outside of the box but VAR overrules and awards a penalty, which Mbuemo converts (VAR official: Peter Bankes).
5 - vs Brentford: Lewis Smith awards Clarke a second yellow for a foul on the edge of the box and sends him off (VAR official: Peter Bankes).
6 - vs Leicester: Fatawu bundles Chaplin over in the box in the 77th minute without making an attempt to win the ball but Tim Robinson and VAR fail to award a penalty (VAR official: Stuart Attwell).
7 - vs Leicester: Phillips leaves a leg out as Pereira clears the ball and a second yellow is issued by Tim Robinson and Phillips is dismissed despite looking to pull out of the tackle seconds after the penalty failed to be awarded (VAR official: Stuart Attwell).
8 - vs Nottingham Forest: Szmodics leaves a leg trailing in the box and despite minimal contact, Jota makes a meal of it, goes down and VAR doesn’t overrule Matt Harrington’s penalty decision (VAR official: Matt Donohue)
9 - vs Bournemouth: Burgess heads the ball into the net but Michael Salisbury blows for a foul, an infringement by Delap when there seemed little to anything in it. No VAR intervention. (VAR official: Paul Tierney).
10 - vs Newcastle: VAR intervene in an offside call after Isak scores and after a 3-minute delay overrule the lineswoman’s decision allowing Newcastle’s goal to stand despite the initial angle looking offside and the line call very marginal. A precedent was set earlier in the season with such close call in favour of an offside ruling. Referee was Stuart Atwell (VAR official: Craig Taylor)
11 - vs Brighton: Joao Pedro clatters in to Walton after he’s played the ball seemingly with no intention to avoid the clash, slow his momentum or pull out of the challenge requiring Walton to need treatment. A yellow card was brandished by Tony Harrington when many feel it should have been a red (VAR official: Michael Salisbury).
12 - vs Aston Villa: Referee Robert Jones issues Tuanzebe a yellow card for a foul on Rogers after clearly winning the ball. The yellow is later followed by a second yellow, reducing the side to ten-men.(VAR official: Michael Oliver)
FOR:
1 - vs Liverpool: Burns on a yellow deliberately handles the ball on the ground when contesting possession with Jota but Tim Robinson fails to see it to issue a second yellow.
2 - vs Villa: Morsy tackles Onana and goes over the ball and despite being on a yellow card, gets away without a second yellow from Stuart Atwell (VAR official: Darren England)
3 - vs Chelsea: John Brooks awards a penalty after Delap goes through on goal and despite a stumble and the ball running out of play, he’s caught by Jorgensen whilst getting back to his feet and goes over for a penalty upheld by VAR (VAR official: Michael Oliver) [Post edited 16 Feb 6:02]
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| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 21:07 - Dec 30 with 1458 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 21:04 - Dec 30 by redrickstuhaart |
Not sure the offside was marginal or questionable! |
It was only given by VAR, though, wasn't it? (And in the context of what VAR has failed to award, that is an achievement even if it did take them 5+ minutes to call it.) |  |
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| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 06:27 - Dec 31 with 1409 views | ibbleobble |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 21:07 - Dec 30 by Nthsuffolkblue |
It was only given by VAR, though, wasn't it? (And in the context of what VAR has failed to award, that is an achievement even if it did take them 5+ minutes to call it.) |
Yes exactly. It was tight and wasn’t given by the linesman and the level of deliberation (which we’ve become used to) was protracted. It looked offside to me but then again, so did Murphy’s against Newcastle which wasn’t given - both close or marginal calls in my view.
At the midway point we’re 10-4 on marginal calls so if it’s true that they do even out over the course of a season (give or take) we should look forward to more balances being redressed from here on in. [Post edited 31 Dec 2024 6:50]
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| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 05:18 - Jan 18 with 1210 views | ibbleobble |
Updated with Joao Pedro card incident. | | | |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 11:29 - Jan 18 with 1053 views | bournemouthblue |
Spurs had a goal against us ruled out for VAR
You could add in the Brighton 2nd goal being given after a VAR call as well |  |
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| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 14:05 - Jan 18 with 1016 views | TractorWood |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 11:29 - Jan 18 by bournemouthblue |
Spurs had a goal against us ruled out for VAR
You could add in the Brighton 2nd goal being given after a VAR call as well |
The latter of which looked a ridiculous review and took far too long. |  |
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| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 14:08 - Jan 18 with 1014 views | Dennyx4 |
Think the Davis yellow at Fulham was one that went in our favour, was marginal whether it might be a red. |  | | |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 14:24 - Jan 18 with 996 views | ibbleobble |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 11:29 - Jan 18 by bournemouthblue |
Spurs had a goal against us ruled out for VAR
You could add in the Brighton 2nd goal being given after a VAR call as well |
They weren’t marginal though like the Newcastle one. Solanke clearly handballed it and didn’t even celebrate. Wolfenden clearly played Dunk on. I’ve left all the Fulham ones out too as they were all correct without any real conjecture. | | | |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 22:59 - Feb 5 with 772 views | radiogaga |
Enciso escaping a red at Anfield should surely be in the FOR column |  |
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| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 06:47 - Feb 6 with 689 views | ibbleobble |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 22:59 - Feb 5 by radiogaga |
Enciso escaping a red at Anfield should surely be in the FOR column |
I missed that one but will add it. | | | |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 06:04 - Feb 16 with 497 views | ibbleobble |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 22:59 - Feb 5 by radiogaga |
Enciso escaping a red at Anfield should surely be in the FOR column |
Removed the Joao Felix offside against Chelsea and added the Tuanzebe first yellow from yesterday. Not convinced the Encisco was a red so have left that off. | | | |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 08:29 - Feb 16 with 430 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 06:04 - Feb 16 by ibbleobble |
Removed the Joao Felix offside against Chelsea and added the Tuanzebe first yellow from yesterday. Not convinced the Encisco was a red so have left that off. |
Are you removing Joao Pedro as well then?
Seems a bit like trying too hard to fix the argument. |  |
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| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 09:27 - Feb 16 with 380 views | Dennyx4 |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 06:04 - Feb 16 by ibbleobble |
Removed the Joao Felix offside against Chelsea and added the Tuanzebe first yellow from yesterday. Not convinced the Encisco was a red so have left that off. |
The Jaoa Felix offside is very similar to the Isak offside, they should either both be in or both be not listed.
In all honesty, I don’t think the offsides should be listed, as they are factual.
The Enciso and Davis potential red cards should be listed though. | | | |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 09:39 - Feb 16 with 353 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 08:29 - Feb 16 by Chris_ITFC |
Are you removing Joao Pedro as well then?
Seems a bit like trying too hard to fix the argument. |
You don’t understand, if it’s a decision that goes against us its in the list, whether it’s dubious or fairly clear cut, but if it goes for us it’s only in the list if it’s really dubious. Ergo nearly everything has gone against us
Well that’s how I think it works anyway
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| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 10:54 - Feb 16 with 311 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 09:39 - Feb 16 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
You don’t understand, if it’s a decision that goes against us its in the list, whether it’s dubious or fairly clear cut, but if it goes for us it’s only in the list if it’s really dubious. Ergo nearly everything has gone against us
Well that’s how I think it works anyway
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Exactly 
This list seems very staged! Everyone said how similar Joao Pedro and Enciso were, yet they get treated differently!
Literally all 20 clubs would have a lopsided list like this, which can’t possibly be correct, but that’s football tribalism for you!  | |
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