| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against 16:29 - Oct 27 with 10187 views | ibbleobble |
KM said there’s no point reflecting on questionable decisions as they even out during the course of the season. Let’s keep this thread going and add to it as the season progresses to see where it nets out:
AGAINST:
1 - vs Man City: Sam Alisson awards a free-kick for a Davis foul on Savio. VAR overrules and awards a penalty, which Haaland converts (VAR official: David Coote).
2 - vs Man City: Sam Alisson fails to award a penalty for a trip on Davis in the box (VAR official: David Coote).
3 - vs Everton: Michael Oliver awards a penalty for a trip on Clarke but VAR overrules it (VAR official: Graham Scott).
4 - vs Brentford: Lewis Smith awards a free kick and yellow card for a foul outside of the box but VAR overrules and awards a penalty, which Mbuemo converts (VAR official: Peter Bankes).
5 - vs Brentford: Lewis Smith awards Clarke a second yellow for a foul on the edge of the box and sends him off (VAR official: Peter Bankes).
6 - vs Leicester: Fatawu bundles Chaplin over in the box in the 77th minute without making an attempt to win the ball but Tim Robinson and VAR fail to award a penalty (VAR official: Stuart Attwell).
7 - vs Leicester: Phillips leaves a leg out as Pereira clears the ball and a second yellow is issued by Tim Robinson and Phillips is dismissed despite looking to pull out of the tackle seconds after the penalty failed to be awarded (VAR official: Stuart Attwell).
8 - vs Nottingham Forest: Szmodics leaves a leg trailing in the box and despite minimal contact, Jota makes a meal of it, goes down and VAR doesn’t overrule Matt Harrington’s penalty decision (VAR official: Matt Donohue)
9 - vs Bournemouth: Burgess heads the ball into the net but Michael Salisbury blows for a foul, an infringement by Delap when there seemed little to anything in it. No VAR intervention. (VAR official: Paul Tierney).
10 - vs Newcastle: VAR intervene in an offside call after Isak scores and after a 3-minute delay overrule the lineswoman’s decision allowing Newcastle’s goal to stand despite the initial angle looking offside and the line call very marginal. A precedent was set earlier in the season with such close call in favour of an offside ruling. Referee was Stuart Atwell (VAR official: Craig Taylor)
11 - vs Brighton: Joao Pedro clatters in to Walton after he’s played the ball seemingly with no intention to avoid the clash, slow his momentum or pull out of the challenge requiring Walton to need treatment. A yellow card was brandished by Tony Harrington when many feel it should have been a red (VAR official: Michael Salisbury).
12 - vs Aston Villa: Referee Robert Jones issues Tuanzebe a yellow card for a foul on Rogers after clearly winning the ball. The yellow is later followed by a second yellow, reducing the side to ten-men.(VAR official: Michael Oliver)
FOR:
1 - vs Liverpool: Burns on a yellow deliberately handles the ball on the ground when contesting possession with Jota but Tim Robinson fails to see it to issue a second yellow.
2 - vs Villa: Morsy tackles Onana and goes over the ball and despite being on a yellow card, gets away without a second yellow from Stuart Atwell (VAR official: Darren England)
3 - vs Chelsea: John Brooks awards a penalty after Delap goes through on goal and despite a stumble and the ball running out of play, he’s caught by Jorgensen whilst getting back to his feet and goes over for a penalty upheld by VAR (VAR official: Michael Oliver) [Post edited 16 Feb 6:02]
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| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 19:43 - Dec 8 with 1785 views | DBaldy |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 19:35 - Dec 8 by ibbleobble |
I don’t recall a Tottenham penalty being over turned. Point me to it and I’ll add it if it was a marginal call whichever way it dropped. |
I'm assuming he was referring to the Spurs goal that was disallowed, although not sure if that would count as "marginal". | | | |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 20:03 - Dec 8 with 1753 views | ibbleobble |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 19:43 - Dec 8 by DBaldy |
I'm assuming he was referring to the Spurs goal that was disallowed, although not sure if that would count as "marginal". |
Christ. If he is, he’s off his rocker. Even Solanke didn’t celebrate as he knew that’d be ruled out for handball.
I think are few are misreading this as a contentious VAR thread, it’s not. It’s just contentious decision making and we’re definitely in the wrong end of far too many. If I’ve missed anything or anyone thinks I’m bias, we can debate them but there’s no way that Solanke offside goal is going on here and I don’t recall a penalty appeal in our favour but happy to be corrected. | | | |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 20:05 - Dec 8 with 1740 views | sjg |
Bit boring now. Thought it was pathetic when Forest claimed this agenda last year and think it’s pathetic now. I thought Bournemouth should have had a pen first half as well | | | |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 20:08 - Dec 8 with 1719 views | bournemouthblue |
VAR doesn't intervene in second yellows
Why it doesn't, given the damage that second yellow can do to teams really is anyone's guess |  |
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| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 20:11 - Dec 8 with 1712 views | bournemouthblue |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 19:43 - Dec 8 by pelles321 |
In the Tottenham game we had two decisions go in our favour. The first was when VAR intervened to disallow Solanke’s goal for handball. The second was VAR reviewing a possible handball against Davis and deciding it was not a penalty.
I haven’t seen Bournemouth’s penalty appeal in the first half back (from which they hit the post from).VAR didn’t intervene although Bournemouth thought it was a penalty. |
Nothing in the penalty shout, I do think we are unlucky with our goal ruled out today though
They aren't overly consistent on these decisions either, that's the frustrating thing
I was amazed how quickly they decided the first goal wasn't offside either, it looked like one you'd have a closer look at [Post edited 8 Dec 2024 20:12]
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| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 20:19 - Dec 8 with 1693 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 20:05 - Dec 8 by sjg |
Bit boring now. Thought it was pathetic when Forest claimed this agenda last year and think it’s pathetic now. I thought Bournemouth should have had a pen first half as well |
Silly comment. It wasnt even close. | | | |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 20:21 - Dec 8 with 1686 views | sjg |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 20:19 - Dec 8 by redrickstuhaart |
Silly comment. It wasnt even close. |
Missed the point of my comment but ok | | | |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 22:32 - Dec 8 with 1592 views | Chris_ITFC |
You’ve missed Morsy not getting booked for hauling down Tavernier off the ball.
Banned for Wolves makes that far more significant than some of those Fors.
(Some of them are very clutchy, let’s be honest.) |  |
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| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 22:40 - Dec 8 with 1571 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 22:32 - Dec 8 by Chris_ITFC |
You’ve missed Morsy not getting booked for hauling down Tavernier off the ball.
Banned for Wolves makes that far more significant than some of those Fors.
(Some of them are very clutchy, let’s be honest.) |
What? He didn't do anythihng yellow worthy. However, there was an arguable red card offence on him in the first 5 seconds. | | | |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 05:30 - Dec 9 with 1514 views | ibbleobble |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 22:32 - Dec 8 by Chris_ITFC |
You’ve missed Morsy not getting booked for hauling down Tavernier off the ball.
Banned for Wolves makes that far more significant than some of those Fors.
(Some of them are very clutchy, let’s be honest.) |
This thread is about game changing decisions that cost points, not run-of-the-mill in game calls that may have an effect later in the season. | | | |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 05:32 - Dec 9 with 1512 views | ibbleobble |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 20:05 - Dec 8 by sjg |
Bit boring now. Thought it was pathetic when Forest claimed this agenda last year and think it’s pathetic now. I thought Bournemouth should have had a pen first half as well |
What agenda? KM said at the start of the season, “these things even out”, I’m keeping tabs to see if they do or not. There’s no agenda or bias here, it’s your emotive interpretation of it calling it an “agenda”. | | | |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 09:36 - Dec 9 with 1456 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 05:32 - Dec 9 by ibbleobble |
What agenda? KM said at the start of the season, “these things even out”, I’m keeping tabs to see if they do or not. There’s no agenda or bias here, it’s your emotive interpretation of it calling it an “agenda”. |
There is very clear bias here, it’s silly to suggest there isn’t.
Every club in the league could do a thread like this, heavily weighted in their favour - and they can’t all be right. [Post edited 1 Jan 9:51]
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| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 10:27 - Dec 9 with 1436 views | EdwardStone |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 22:40 - Dec 8 by redrickstuhaart |
What? He didn't do anythihng yellow worthy. However, there was an arguable red card offence on him in the first 5 seconds. |
Sam got a straight red for an off-ball "punch" a cuppla seasons ago....
The elbow in the face at kick-off seemed much more blatant and should have been a red
Maybe the ref gave Sam a free pass from receiving any cards as a direct result of not punishing the Bournemuff striker |  | | |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 11:11 - Dec 9 with 1412 views | IPS_wich |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 05:30 - Dec 9 by ibbleobble |
This thread is about game changing decisions that cost points, not run-of-the-mill in game calls that may have an effect later in the season. |
It’s titled questionable / marginal decisions - but you’ve put every decision against Ipswich in here, even though some are neither questionable or marginal; but not included the Solanke handball - so it is a biased point of view.
The penalty for Man City, the penalty for Forest, the penalty for Brentford, the second yellow to Phillips and the Burgess disallowed goal are all on a par with the Solanke handball - in that whilst we might not like it all five of those decisions were unfortunately correct calls in the end - nothing marginable or questionable about them if you take off your blue tinted spectacles. | | | |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 11:20 - Dec 9 with 1404 views | GeoffSentence |
Anyone who says they even out over the season is wrong.
Some teams will come out on top, some will come out behind.
They only even out in the sense that one teams costly decision is to another teams benefit. |  |
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| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 11:26 - Dec 9 with 1394 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 11:11 - Dec 9 by IPS_wich |
It’s titled questionable / marginal decisions - but you’ve put every decision against Ipswich in here, even though some are neither questionable or marginal; but not included the Solanke handball - so it is a biased point of view.
The penalty for Man City, the penalty for Forest, the penalty for Brentford, the second yellow to Phillips and the Burgess disallowed goal are all on a par with the Solanke handball - in that whilst we might not like it all five of those decisions were unfortunately correct calls in the end - nothing marginable or questionable about them if you take off your blue tinted spectacles. |
What utter nonsense | | | |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 11:28 - Dec 9 with 1385 views | HemelBlue |
This is the most tinpot reaction so far. I’ve thought it when other struggling teams have blamed refs and I think it now. Embarrassing stuff | | | |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 16:40 - Dec 22 with 1080 views | ibbleobble |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 11:28 - Dec 9 by HemelBlue |
This is the most tinpot reaction so far. I’ve thought it when other struggling teams have blamed refs and I think it now. Embarrassing stuff |
Updated with another marginal call for you especially. Awaiting another insightful, intelligent response… | | | |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 16:43 - Dec 22 with 1064 views | ibbleobble |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 11:11 - Dec 9 by IPS_wich |
It’s titled questionable / marginal decisions - but you’ve put every decision against Ipswich in here, even though some are neither questionable or marginal; but not included the Solanke handball - so it is a biased point of view.
The penalty for Man City, the penalty for Forest, the penalty for Brentford, the second yellow to Phillips and the Burgess disallowed goal are all on a par with the Solanke handball - in that whilst we might not like it all five of those decisions were unfortunately correct calls in the end - nothing marginable or questionable about them if you take off your blue tinted spectacles. |
This is laughable if you think the Solanke handball is on a par with any of those. Solanke didn’t even celebrate. Guess some folk are struggling with the concept of questionable or marginal. | | | |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 17:38 - Dec 22 with 990 views | TractorWood |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 16:43 - Dec 22 by ibbleobble |
This is laughable if you think the Solanke handball is on a par with any of those. Solanke didn’t even celebrate. Guess some folk are struggling with the concept of questionable or marginal. |
Morsy should have been sent off versus Villa. He was absolutely charmed not to. https://www.skysports.com/football/video/30998/13224762/should-ipswichs-sam-mors
As others have said. There is clear bias/foil hat logic here. |  |
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| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 18:08 - Dec 22 with 943 views | olimar |
Morsy should have been sent off v Villa. | | | |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 18:22 - Dec 22 with 915 views | ibbleobble |
Hardly mate. Morsy’s fouls were persistent, there wasn’t a single moment of questionable or marginal decision making, it was an accumulation and let go in the spirit of the game plus he got the ball and wasn’t out of control.
There’s no bias here. If you don’t like the thread, don’t comment.
However, if the common consensus of the community is that it should have been a red, I’ll add it in. [Post edited 22 Dec 2024 18:32]
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| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 18:33 - Dec 22 with 904 views | TractorWood |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 18:22 - Dec 22 by ibbleobble |
Hardly mate. Morsy’s fouls were persistent, there wasn’t a single moment of questionable or marginal decision making, it was an accumulation and let go in the spirit of the game plus he got the ball and wasn’t out of control.
There’s no bias here. If you don’t like the thread, don’t comment.
However, if the common consensus of the community is that it should have been a red, I’ll add it in. [Post edited 22 Dec 2024 18:32]
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So it's the spirit of the game when it goes our way but a conspiracy when it doesn't? Thanks for clarifying your 'not biased' criteria.
I'll comment where I like, thanks. | |
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| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 21:01 - Dec 30 with 667 views | ibbleobble |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 18:33 - Dec 22 by TractorWood |
So it's the spirit of the game when it goes our way but a conspiracy when it doesn't? Thanks for clarifying your 'not biased' criteria.
I'll comment where I like, thanks. |
Added tonight’s decisions and the Villa one to help quell the rabid conspiracy theory fans! | | | |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 21:04 - Dec 30 with 659 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Questionable / Marginal Decision Count For and Against on 21:01 - Dec 30 by ibbleobble |
Added tonight’s decisions and the Villa one to help quell the rabid conspiracy theory fans! |
Not sure the offside was marginal or questionable! | | | |
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