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Muric 11:55 - Dec 11 with 3501 viewsHampBlue

We have the second highest expected goals against in the league.

Muric is...
- 5th in the league for goals prevented
- 4th for saves per game (3.9) Total of 55
- The best goalkeeper in the league for 'high claims'

People are quick to forget a lot of his good moments and focus just on (in the grand scheme of things...) the small number of mistakes.

e.g. Brentford game he made some brilliant saves & 1-on1's in the second half to keep us in the game which nobody would of expected him to make.

I think in terms of conceding goals overall we're better off with him in the net than Walton, even if Walton wouldn't make the mistakes, he wouldn't of made as many saves and claims.

He's a confidence player, like Hladky, We need to get behind him!
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Muric on 13:37 - Dec 11 with 744 viewstractorboy1978

Muric on 12:49 - Dec 11 by Swailsey

Would never have guessed that! Can think of 3 crosses he should have stopped that led to goals.

Agree to disagree!


Not really. The stats don't lie. He's already stopped only 2 less crosses than Hladky did for the whole of last season (46 games).
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Muric on 13:43 - Dec 11 with 719 viewsibbleobble

Why wouldn’t Walton have made those stats? The point is completely baseless. The reason Muric is high in those stats is simply because we haven’t defended well leaving him exposed. Goalkeepers make saves those stats say.

People aren’t quick to forget Muric’s good moments, they’re just being outweighed by the bad, unfortunately.

Walton in. It won’t happen but I’ll keep repeating it regardless while we wait for the next Muric clanger.
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Muric on 13:55 - Dec 11 with 689 viewsTractorJack

He's 8th on goals prevented as far as I can see unless you're excluding some on fewer appearances? He's also level with 5 other keepers.

Goals prevented will be based on xGOT faced so it's a relative measure.

https://theanalyst.com/competition/premier-league/stats
[Post edited 11 Dec 2024 13:56]
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Muric on 14:12 - Dec 11 with 673 viewsRyorry

Muric on 12:29 - Dec 11 by homer_123

Indeed, it's the 'rush of blood' that seems his nemesis.


To me, *dependability* is a key requirement for a keeper as much as the shot-stopping etc. so that the rest of the team can have confidence in him.

This factor is glaringly missing in Muric, unfortunately.

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Muric on 14:16 - Dec 11 with 663 viewsitfcjoe

I think saves per game isn;t particularly important, as he'll always be busier - but it's just how stats 1 and 3 balance out with most mistakes leading to goals.

I personally think the best for 'high claims' is just such a massive thing for a team at the bottom of the league, it relieves so much pressure - and is far outweighing the mistakes leading to goals.

I think it is down as 4 mistakes

Man City x2
Brentford
Bournemouth

Man City ones were irrelevant really, we were going to lose that day and didn't think the rush out was that egregious - Brentford a sickener but he'd made excellent saves, and Sunday was a bit of a team failure exacerbated by him.

Conceded 7 now in last 6 games, and is playing well

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Muric on 14:31 - Dec 11 with 620 viewsFrimleyBlue

Muric on 14:16 - Dec 11 by itfcjoe

I think saves per game isn;t particularly important, as he'll always be busier - but it's just how stats 1 and 3 balance out with most mistakes leading to goals.

I personally think the best for 'high claims' is just such a massive thing for a team at the bottom of the league, it relieves so much pressure - and is far outweighing the mistakes leading to goals.

I think it is down as 4 mistakes

Man City x2
Brentford
Bournemouth

Man City ones were irrelevant really, we were going to lose that day and didn't think the rush out was that egregious - Brentford a sickener but he'd made excellent saves, and Sunday was a bit of a team failure exacerbated by him.

Conceded 7 now in last 6 games, and is playing well


Murics great with high claims, it's the low claims he struggles with, you think the spurs opening chance, the utd goal, various others where the balls aren't high claims, yet he's then not claiming them at all.. that's been a bit of an issue, but perhaps that comes with more games?

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Muric on 14:33 - Dec 11 with 617 viewsNedPlimpton

Muric on 14:16 - Dec 11 by itfcjoe

I think saves per game isn;t particularly important, as he'll always be busier - but it's just how stats 1 and 3 balance out with most mistakes leading to goals.

I personally think the best for 'high claims' is just such a massive thing for a team at the bottom of the league, it relieves so much pressure - and is far outweighing the mistakes leading to goals.

I think it is down as 4 mistakes

Man City x2
Brentford
Bournemouth

Man City ones were irrelevant really, we were going to lose that day and didn't think the rush out was that egregious - Brentford a sickener but he'd made excellent saves, and Sunday was a bit of a team failure exacerbated by him.

Conceded 7 now in last 6 games, and is playing well


Possibly ignoring the Man Utd goal where he was seemingly just waiting for the ball to roll into his arms. I think it's generous not to call that a mistake
[Post edited 11 Dec 2024 17:07]
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Muric on 16:07 - Dec 11 with 565 viewsHampBlue

Muric on 13:55 - Dec 11 by TractorJack

He's 8th on goals prevented as far as I can see unless you're excluding some on fewer appearances? He's also level with 5 other keepers.

Goals prevented will be based on xGOT faced so it's a relative measure.

https://theanalyst.com/competition/premier-league/stats
[Post edited 11 Dec 2024 13:56]


I guess it depends on the stats provider - I got this from Fotmob which I think does exclude some on only 1 or 2 appearances
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Muric on 16:13 - Dec 11 with 561 viewsHampBlue

Muric on 13:43 - Dec 11 by ibbleobble

Why wouldn’t Walton have made those stats? The point is completely baseless. The reason Muric is high in those stats is simply because we haven’t defended well leaving him exposed. Goalkeepers make saves those stats say.

People aren’t quick to forget Muric’s good moments, they’re just being outweighed by the bad, unfortunately.

Walton in. It won’t happen but I’ll keep repeating it regardless while we wait for the next Muric clanger.


True for the first 2 stats, which I quoted to set context (he's not invisible) but the last 2 I think show he's a good goalkeeper

I agree that we don't know (and we never will know) how Walton would of faired. But we wouldn't be able to play out from the back and I'm fairly confident he wouldn't be able to be as commanding for crosses.
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Every keeper in the bottom 3 has been accused of blunders this season.... on 16:46 - Dec 11 with 528 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Muric on 14:31 - Dec 11 by FrimleyBlue

Murics great with high claims, it's the low claims he struggles with, you think the spurs opening chance, the utd goal, various others where the balls aren't high claims, yet he's then not claiming them at all.. that's been a bit of an issue, but perhaps that comes with more games?


Jose Sa.

Alex McCarthy.

Its no coincidence that these are the busiest keepers with the worst protection in front of them.

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Muric on 17:50 - Dec 11 with 466 viewsReusersTown

Muric on 12:35 - Dec 11 by TractorCam

Nothing i've seen of Walton in a Town shirt would suggest he wouldn't produce those numbers either. People seem quick to forget how good he was because he didn't play last season.


How good he was *in league one*.
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