| If the Welsh based clubs playing in the english leagues... 08:46 - Jan 13 with 4077 views | tonybied |
...want to play in a Welsh Cup competition to be able to qualify for Europe, should they be forced to play in the Welsh Leagues? Is that not a case of having your cake and eating it too? |  | | |  |
| If the Welsh based clubs playing in the english leagues... on 11:54 - Jan 13 with 747 views | algy |
| If the Welsh based clubs playing in the english leagues... on 11:37 - Jan 13 by Guthrum |
It would probably also destroy the league as a competitive spectacle, dropping four hugely strong and wealthy clubs into that structure. Bad enough it's already dominated by a half-English club. |
With "four hugely strong" clubs it would be more competitive than what they have in Scotland. |  |
| Veni Vidi Participatur. Now we can get back to competing. |
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| If the Welsh based clubs playing in the english leagues... on 12:19 - Jan 13 with 701 views | Danny_G |
| If the Welsh based clubs playing in the english leagues... on 10:59 - Jan 13 by Asa |
Just wait until you hear about SIX times Welsh FA Cup winners Shrewsbury Town. Half of the honours they've ever won have been the Welsh Cup!
See also 3 times winners Chester City, 2 times winners Crewe Alexander and 1 time winners Hereford United, Tranmere Rovers and Bristol City.
That's before we mention finalists like Kidderminster Harriers, Northwich Victoria, Stourbridge and Hednesford.
As you rightly say 'Welsh when they want to be'. [Post edited 13 Jan 11:28]
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But English clubs who won the Welsh Cup were never allowed to represent Wales in UEFA competitions, which is the whole point of Cardiff etc. wanting to enter. The highest finishing Welsh club would take the Cup Winners Cup spot instead.
Frankly, if they chucked youth teams in and entered on the same basis of not being allowed European qualification then I wouldn’t be all that bothered. But wanting to have their cake and eat it gives Cardiff etc. an unfair route to additional prize money, exposure and way to attract talent that isn’t open to their league competitors. | | | |
| If the Welsh based clubs playing in the english leagues... on 12:25 - Jan 13 with 684 views | Europablue |
| If the Welsh based clubs playing in the english leagues... on 10:57 - Jan 13 by wkj |
I honestly can't see why this is downvoted. The poster admitted bias, and gave an opinion from the other side of the coin. It's hardly rude and outrageous |
The down arrow is also used to simply disagree. It's consistent to say the Welsh club should either entirely stay in the English league structure or entirely switch to the Welsh league structure. | | | |
| If the Welsh based clubs playing in the english leagues... on 12:41 - Jan 13 with 657 views | Oldsmoker |
You wonder who makes up the rules.
from Wiki..
[The Welsh FA was] Established in 1876, it is the third-oldest national association in the world,[2] and one of the four associations, along with the English Football Association, Scottish Football Association, and Irish Football Association that make up the International Football Association Board, responsible for the Laws of the Game.
So little ol' Wales is a Big Fish. |  |
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| If the Welsh based clubs playing in the english leagues... on 15:14 - Jan 13 with 594 views | Swansea_Blue |
| If the Welsh based clubs playing in the english leagues... on 09:21 - Jan 13 by algy |
The right way to raise the profile of Welsh football is for Swansea Cardiff Wrexham and Newport to participate in the Cymru Premier. |
How would that raise the profile, if those clubs lost most of their revenue, had to sell most of their players and ended up as skint as most of the other clubs in the league? |  |
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| If the Welsh based clubs playing in the english leagues... on 15:21 - Jan 13 with 587 views | Swansea_Blue |
| If the Welsh based clubs playing in the english leagues... on 09:29 - Jan 13 by tonybied |
I think that should be, should they be allowed to enter the EFL Cup but yes, I agree this is a pertinent question.
I can't see how they would be able to fit it into the calendar without dropping out of an English Cup competition to be honest. Which was kinda my point, I know I didn't really state that originally but if they are going to choose not to enter an English competition to enter a Welsh one then that doesn't sit right with me. They should either decide to be part of the English competitions or Welsh ones not pick and choose what suits their interests best. |
I think it’s a bit of a daft idea, but it’s not the clubs driving this. FAW are pushing it to try and get some more money into the Welsh game. I can see why they’re doing it, but it strikes me as a bit desperate. Those four clubs are in the English pyramid and should therefore only play in the English cups, imo.
It’s an odd situation. People aren’t particularly interested in over here. Some are for, some against, but mostly people don’t seem that interested in a change. You rarely hear fans talking about it. | |
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| If the Welsh based clubs playing in the english leagues... on 15:56 - Jan 13 with 562 views | Guthrum |
| If the Welsh based clubs playing in the english leagues... on 11:54 - Jan 13 by algy |
With "four hugely strong" clubs it would be more competitive than what they have in Scotland. |
Tho two of the four are much stronger than the others. |  |
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| If the Welsh based clubs playing in the english leagues... on 20:45 - Jan 13 with 513 views | skinnybob72 |
One point I don't think has been mentioned, or asked, is what do the clubs who play in this at present feel about it?
They'll surely see a chance of Europe being taken away as you would expect Cardiff & Swansea to be regular winners.
I assume that TNS, and others, have had a shot at Europe (TNS were in the Conference group stages) through winning the league or cup. If these 4 teams enter the cup then they will effectively take a Euro spot at the expense of the smaller clubs who currently compete in it. | | | |
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| If the Welsh based clubs playing in the english leagues... on 21:44 - Jan 13 with 463 views | Swansea_Blue |
| If the Welsh based clubs playing in the english leagues... on 20:45 - Jan 13 by skinnybob72 |
One point I don't think has been mentioned, or asked, is what do the clubs who play in this at present feel about it?
They'll surely see a chance of Europe being taken away as you would expect Cardiff & Swansea to be regular winners.
I assume that TNS, and others, have had a shot at Europe (TNS were in the Conference group stages) through winning the league or cup. If these 4 teams enter the cup then they will effectively take a Euro spot at the expense of the smaller clubs who currently compete in it. |
They seem to be for it, presumably due to the promise of extra cash (which ultimately is what this is about).
I’m not sure why clubs like Swansea, Wrexham and Cardiff are keen though. If they do win and get into the qualifiers for Europe, that will disrupt their pre-seasons and they wouldn’t get far given the state of the clubs now (Wrexham could be the most successful of the 3 by this time next year). They’re also giving ip the income somehow, and that’s being shared around the Welsh League. | |
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| If the Welsh based clubs playing in the english leagues... on 21:53 - Jan 13 with 456 views | jontysnut |
Doncaster City tried to enter the Scottish Cup on the basis that the 1136 Treaty of Durham which gave Doncaster to Scotland had never been revoked. |  | | |
| If the Welsh based clubs playing in the english leagues... on 22:37 - Jan 13 with 440 views | Danny_G |
| If the Welsh based clubs playing in the english leagues... on 20:45 - Jan 13 by skinnybob72 |
One point I don't think has been mentioned, or asked, is what do the clubs who play in this at present feel about it?
They'll surely see a chance of Europe being taken away as you would expect Cardiff & Swansea to be regular winners.
I assume that TNS, and others, have had a shot at Europe (TNS were in the Conference group stages) through winning the league or cup. If these 4 teams enter the cup then they will effectively take a Euro spot at the expense of the smaller clubs who currently compete in it. |
One of the justifications for the proposal is that entering stronger clubs in European competitions will increase Wales’s UEFA coefficient, thereby giving them more European spaces in the long run. | | | |
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