| Ogbene back earlier? 10:55 - Jan 25 with 4253 views | Nutkins_Return |
Was going to post this on the thread about 25 man squad after Jan. As it stands we could de-register Ogbene and 25 man squad is done. But did anyone watch the life in the day of Delap and Slicker when they do a quick Q&A with Ogbene.
They started talking about when back and it went a bit sheapish and they were chuckling and Ogbene said something like "Better just say you'll see me in future" smiling away. Maybe misreading it but felt like he was expecting to be back this season and had to stop them giving a date as not allowed or something. I'm wondering whether he might actually be back sometime in March or something and in which case might want to keep him on the list. Anyone else get that sense?
Great to see him in really good spirits |  |
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| Ogbene back earlier? on 11:13 - Jan 25 with 4067 views | bluesym |
I was talking about this to my mate the other day,I thought exactly the same. |  |
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| Ogbene back earlier? on 11:24 - Jan 25 with 3947 views | nodge_blue |
Having ruptured my achilles pogoing to the idols at an age i really shouldn't have been. Id be amazed if he was back this season. He clearly has good medical people around him but i took about a year to recover. And even then it has never exactly felt right.
Having said that, mine was a complete rupture. If his was partial he may not be as long. [Post edited 25 Jan 11:27]
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| Ogbene back earlier? on 11:25 - Jan 25 with 3928 views | Guthrum |
Unless he's thinking of next season when we've stayed up and the deal becomes permanent. |  |
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| Ogbene back earlier? on 11:36 - Jan 25 with 3777 views | SitfcB |
I thought the same when I watched that tbh. |  |
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| Ogbene back earlier? on 11:36 - Jan 25 with 3774 views | SitfcB |
| Ogbene back earlier? on 11:25 - Jan 25 by Guthrum |
Unless he's thinking of next season when we've stayed up and the deal becomes permanent. |
He’s already here permanently. | |
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| Ogbene back earlier? on 11:43 - Jan 25 with 3696 views | Guthrum |
| Ogbene back earlier? on 11:36 - Jan 25 by SitfcB |
He’s already here permanently. |
Ah, for some reason I thought he was loan with a buy clause should we stay up. Who is that, then? | |
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| Ogbene back earlier? on 11:46 - Jan 25 with 3661 views | Len_Brennan |
He seems like a really honest, decent, hard working lad, so I wish him the absolute best, especially when he is playing for us, but I really can't see him back here this season, and even if he were to be medically ready by April, I think we would be better off deregistering him & using 'his' squad place on somebody else who will be available, & match fit, for far more games this season.
I'll be more than happy to see him in the match day squad come mid-August, regardless of which league we are in, but for his own recovery & for the best options the club can have for ataying up, I don't expect to see him play again this season. | | | |
| Ogbene back earlier? on 11:47 - Jan 25 with 3646 views | EJP |
| Ogbene back earlier? on 11:43 - Jan 25 by Guthrum |
Ah, for some reason I thought he was loan with a buy clause should we stay up. Who is that, then? |
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| Ogbene back earlier? on 11:58 - Jan 25 with 3518 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Ogbene back earlier? on 11:46 - Jan 25 by Len_Brennan |
He seems like a really honest, decent, hard working lad, so I wish him the absolute best, especially when he is playing for us, but I really can't see him back here this season, and even if he were to be medically ready by April, I think we would be better off deregistering him & using 'his' squad place on somebody else who will be available, & match fit, for far more games this season.
I'll be more than happy to see him in the match day squad come mid-August, regardless of which league we are in, but for his own recovery & for the best options the club can have for ataying up, I don't expect to see him play again this season. |
Yes before seeing the Clip I think every town fan would be thinking the same. And I don't think we'll take any risks. Achilles rupture you are almost always talking minimum 6 months but as with a few injuries apart from a complete rupture I guess no two are the same.
It just gave the sense they all seemed to to know he was going to be back and he had to cut in and just tell them not to say the date... You would just think they would have said next season but they seem to know something and all smiling.
I'm sure it will be next season. They would have to be very confident it would be significantly early not to de-register him so we'll find out soon. | |
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| Ogbene back earlier? on 12:54 - Jan 25 with 3088 views | Illinoisblue |
If he’s back around March having not played for over six months how much use will he be realistically? |  |
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| Ogbene back earlier? on 13:08 - Jan 25 with 2962 views | dirtyboy |
| Ogbene back earlier? on 12:54 - Jan 25 by Illinoisblue |
If he’s back around March having not played for over six months how much use will he be realistically? |
In terms of on impact on the pitch, probably very little.
However, if he's a good character and has good attributes (which you'd expect) then he could well bring some freshness to training sessions and a little positivity which does have an impact. |  | | |
| Ogbene back earlier? on 13:11 - Jan 25 with 2925 views | Wickets |
| Ogbene back earlier? on 11:24 - Jan 25 by nodge_blue |
Having ruptured my achilles pogoing to the idols at an age i really shouldn't have been. Id be amazed if he was back this season. He clearly has good medical people around him but i took about a year to recover. And even then it has never exactly felt right.
Having said that, mine was a complete rupture. If his was partial he may not be as long. [Post edited 25 Jan 11:27]
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I know what you are saying but everyone is different. |  | | |
| Ogbene back earlier? on 13:27 - Jan 25 with 2747 views | greyhound |
| Ogbene back earlier? on 11:36 - Jan 25 by SitfcB |
I thought the same when I watched that tbh. |
I've had a rumour that things are progressing quicker than expected with him and he could be back with some of the season to spare. However we need players now and not hypothetical players and although heartless a decision needs to be made that he wont contribute this season.
I may be wrong but felt he lacked end product... | | | |
| Ogbene back earlier? on 18:29 - Jan 25 with 2307 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Ogbene back earlier? on 13:08 - Jan 25 by dirtyboy |
In terms of on impact on the pitch, probably very little.
However, if he's a good character and has good attributes (which you'd expect) then he could well bring some freshness to training sessions and a little positivity which does have an impact. |
Not registering will not stop him training though so that's a different matter. He's clearly still enjoying spending time with his teammates. Good to see the spirit in the camp is so good to be fair | |
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| Ogbene back earlier? on 19:05 - Jan 25 with 2156 views | ArnieM |
A hills ruptures take between 6-9 months. Generally towards the latter. They tend yo not fo surgery on them these days I believe but put them in a Beckham Boot, which helps towards general fitness maintenance compared to being serial casted and non weight, bearing for the first 3 months. It's a long rehab even if you have the gest medical care money csn buy you,the body still has its own healing rate which you can't hurry along u unfortunately. If he did put in an appearance thus season it'd be the last couple of games and tbh I doubt they'd risk a re rupture for that,do I'm thinking next season. |  |
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| Ogbene back earlier? on 22:15 - Jan 25 with 1827 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| Ogbene back earlier? on 19:05 - Jan 25 by ArnieM |
A hills ruptures take between 6-9 months. Generally towards the latter. They tend yo not fo surgery on them these days I believe but put them in a Beckham Boot, which helps towards general fitness maintenance compared to being serial casted and non weight, bearing for the first 3 months. It's a long rehab even if you have the gest medical care money csn buy you,the body still has its own healing rate which you can't hurry along u unfortunately. If he did put in an appearance thus season it'd be the last couple of games and tbh I doubt they'd risk a re rupture for that,do I'm thinking next season. |
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39020358/ |  | | |
| Ogbene back earlier? on 22:28 - Jan 25 with 1738 views | Sarge |
I got the complete opposite impression. As in, he doesn’t know when he’ll be back but it won’t be any time soon. | | | |
| Ogbene back earlier? on 23:54 - Jan 25 with 1514 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Ogbene back earlier? on 19:05 - Jan 25 by ArnieM |
A hills ruptures take between 6-9 months. Generally towards the latter. They tend yo not fo surgery on them these days I believe but put them in a Beckham Boot, which helps towards general fitness maintenance compared to being serial casted and non weight, bearing for the first 3 months. It's a long rehab even if you have the gest medical care money csn buy you,the body still has its own healing rate which you can't hurry along u unfortunately. If he did put in an appearance thus season it'd be the last couple of games and tbh I doubt they'd risk a re rupture for that,do I'm thinking next season. |
He's had surgery and it would depend on the significance of the rupture (though a rupture is already by definition clearly serious). Chances are of course that's him done for season. Just was interesting. I certainly didn't think any chance prior. | |
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| Ogbene back earlier? on 07:46 - Jan 26 with 1188 views | ArnieM |
Oxygen chambers have been in use for tissue repair for a long time, and whilst the research you've listed shows a significant difference between chronic and acute TA neovasculization, the study is very small, which lends itself to false positives in terms of apication of results, to the wider population, and the study is non human, again making it less applicable to the wider population.
It does take a long while, unfortunately, for this type of injury to heal, and re rupture is common. Obviously being a professional athletes he's going to get grade A access to the best health care but this does not change the body's own healing time. | |
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| Ogbene back earlier? on 07:53 - Jan 26 with 1164 views | ArnieM |
| Ogbene back earlier? on 23:54 - Jan 25 by Nutkins_Return |
He's had surgery and it would depend on the significance of the rupture (though a rupture is already by definition clearly serious). Chances are of course that's him done for season. Just was interesting. I certainly didn't think any chance prior. |
A rupture is a rupture ( unless they've stated partial rupture,then it'll be some fibres still attached). If they've done surgery, it'll be a stronger repair, but there will then be the issue of scar tissue. It's catch 22, really. You must have scared tissue formation to heal, but this, is where the rehab time comes in during the remodelling stage of repair. Rehab has to aim to strengthen eccentricity, this scar tissue, affording it sone level of elasticity ( which scar tissue doesn't have) . Scarvtissue is a bit like fibre glass sheets. It's put down by the body during repair in a haphazard fashion,which is initially brittle. Eccentric strengthening aligns it and strengthens it. It takes time.
Surgical repairs are stronger than no operated interventions, and are slightly less prone to re rupture.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108447 | |
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