| No British citizenship for genuine refugees 12:17 - Feb 12 with 6453 views | DJR |
I am sure I am not alone in finding this troubling. Indeed, if the Tories did this, I am sure there'd be more outrage.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/feb/11/uk-home-office-citizenship-refu
Perhaps like the Syrian applicants for refugee status currently held in limbo, the hope is they will eventually return to their homeland.
Or maybe the Government hopes it will discourage people, but I can't see that happening because those coming to our shores won't have any idea about our immigration system.
Another aspect I find distasteful is the continuing use of the concept of illegality in relation to people seeking asylum, as evidenced by this passage from the guidance.
"Any person applying for citizenship from 10 February 2025, who previously entered the UK illegally will normally be refused, regardless of the time that has passed since the illegal entry took place.”
Effectively, these people will be left in perpetual limbo (with employers probably reluctant to employ them), and might not even be able to leave the country because I am not sure how easy it is to get, say, an up-to date Iraqi passport if you are, say, a Kurd.
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| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 15:39 - Feb 13 with 1271 views | FrimleyBlue |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 17:02 - Feb 12 by Herbivore |
France already takes more asylum seekers than we do. It's not unreasonable for us to do our bit. |
Given the country is twice the size of the UK, shouldn't they be expected to take more? |  |
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| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 17:40 - Feb 13 with 1178 views | Herbivore |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 15:39 - Feb 13 by FrimleyBlue |
Given the country is twice the size of the UK, shouldn't they be expected to take more? |
It's not all about land area though, that's a bit of a daft way of looking at it as population size and infrastructure are also important considerations. And in 2023, France had roughly 167,000 applications to our 67,000 so they're already taking more than their fair share. |  |
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| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 17:45 - Feb 13 with 1159 views | noggin |
Them? |  |
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| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 17:51 - Feb 13 with 1130 views | ArmaghBlue |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 17:45 - Feb 13 by noggin |
Them? |
“Them” = The asylum seekers  |  | | |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 17:54 - Feb 13 with 1122 views | noggin |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 17:51 - Feb 13 by ArmaghBlue |
“Them” = The asylum seekers |
What, all of them did that today? | |
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| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 18:04 - Feb 13 with 1082 views | FrimleyBlue |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 17:40 - Feb 13 by Herbivore |
It's not all about land area though, that's a bit of a daft way of looking at it as population size and infrastructure are also important considerations. And in 2023, France had roughly 167,000 applications to our 67,000 so they're already taking more than their fair share. |
I don't feel it is a daft way of looking at it.
If you're a bigger country than the other then absolutely you should be taking more than the other.
Appreciate infrastructure etc. But having the bigger county they should be expected to put together the infrastructure to cope with the numbers required in comparison to smaller counties.
Some stats online show the UK with a much smaller country than France having a population of
68.3 million to France who have 68.2 million, this despite France being twice the size.
When you drive through France. The Miles and Miles of countryside are beautiful. Here more and more of are being built on to make way for affordable homes etc and I'm some areas immigrant hoping projects.
I'm absolutely all for helping those that need it.
But do think the UK are accepting a fair number of them compared to France who imo should be housing many thousands more. | |
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| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 18:07 - Feb 13 with 1079 views | Herbivore |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 18:04 - Feb 13 by FrimleyBlue |
I don't feel it is a daft way of looking at it.
If you're a bigger country than the other then absolutely you should be taking more than the other.
Appreciate infrastructure etc. But having the bigger county they should be expected to put together the infrastructure to cope with the numbers required in comparison to smaller counties.
Some stats online show the UK with a much smaller country than France having a population of
68.3 million to France who have 68.2 million, this despite France being twice the size.
When you drive through France. The Miles and Miles of countryside are beautiful. Here more and more of are being built on to make way for affordable homes etc and I'm some areas immigrant hoping projects.
I'm absolutely all for helping those that need it.
But do think the UK are accepting a fair number of them compared to France who imo should be housing many thousands more. |
Did you ignore the figures I posted? They're already taking loads more than us. Do you think Greenland should be taking loads more? They're massive and have a tiny population. Your way of looking at it is far too simplistic. | |
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| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 18:07 - Feb 13 with 1078 views | noggin |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 18:04 - Feb 13 by FrimleyBlue |
I don't feel it is a daft way of looking at it.
If you're a bigger country than the other then absolutely you should be taking more than the other.
Appreciate infrastructure etc. But having the bigger county they should be expected to put together the infrastructure to cope with the numbers required in comparison to smaller counties.
Some stats online show the UK with a much smaller country than France having a population of
68.3 million to France who have 68.2 million, this despite France being twice the size.
When you drive through France. The Miles and Miles of countryside are beautiful. Here more and more of are being built on to make way for affordable homes etc and I'm some areas immigrant hoping projects.
I'm absolutely all for helping those that need it.
But do think the UK are accepting a fair number of them compared to France who imo should be housing many thousands more. |
"France who imo should be housing many thousands more."
They do though. | |
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| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 18:27 - Feb 13 with 1031 views | Swansea_Blue |
Oof, that’s a bit of an unpleasant post. I’m not sure smearing all asylum seekers off the back of a horrible attack is a good look. [Post edited 13 Feb 18:28]
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| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 18:40 - Feb 13 with 992 views | FrimleyBlue |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 18:07 - Feb 13 by noggin |
"France who imo should be housing many thousands more."
They do though. |
Yeah I know. I wasn't saying they weren't, just more that it seemed herbz felt we weren't doing our fareshare which we are.
Are the number of applicants to France higher yes. As they should be. | |
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| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 18:43 - Feb 13 with 983 views | Herbivore |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 18:40 - Feb 13 by FrimleyBlue |
Yeah I know. I wasn't saying they weren't, just more that it seemed herbz felt we weren't doing our fareshare which we are.
Are the number of applicants to France higher yes. As they should be. |
I don't think we are. France having 167,000 applicants in 2023 versus 67,000 in the UK is a significant imbalance. | |
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| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 18:48 - Feb 13 with 962 views | FrimleyBlue |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 18:43 - Feb 13 by Herbivore |
I don't think we are. France having 167,000 applicants in 2023 versus 67,000 in the UK is a significant imbalance. |
Europe's third largest country v Europe's 10th largest. I think it's more than fair personally. | |
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| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 18:52 - Feb 13 with 944 views | noggin |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 18:48 - Feb 13 by FrimleyBlue |
Europe's third largest country v Europe's 10th largest. I think it's more than fair personally. |
Blimey, imagine how many Australia would have to take. | |
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| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 18:58 - Feb 13 with 926 views | SimonBatfordITFC |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 18:48 - Feb 13 by FrimleyBlue |
Europe's third largest country v Europe's 10th largest. I think it's more than fair personally. |
But we left Europe so it’s a moo point. |  | | |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 19:00 - Feb 13 with 922 views | Swansea_Blue |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 18:52 - Feb 13 by noggin |
Blimey, imagine how many Australia would have to take. |
Antarctica's the obvious place for all of them. Poor old Frimmers - mad as a box of frogs  | |
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| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 19:18 - Feb 13 with 895 views | Herbivore |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 18:48 - Feb 13 by FrimleyBlue |
Europe's third largest country v Europe's 10th largest. I think it's more than fair personally. |
Yeah, I've already pointed out I don't agree with your simplistic logic on that one hence my view on this. | |
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| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 19:38 - Feb 13 with 859 views | Swansea_Blue |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 18:58 - Feb 13 by SimonBatfordITFC |
But we left Europe so it’s a moo point. |
Yes, because we were cowed into submission by the right wing press.
I’ll get my coat  | |
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| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 19:44 - Feb 13 with 836 views | SimonBatfordITFC |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 19:38 - Feb 13 by Swansea_Blue |
Yes, because we were cowed into submission by the right wing press.
I’ll get my coat |
Worst pun I’ve herd this year. | | | |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 21:54 - Feb 13 with 768 views | Swansea_Blue |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 19:44 - Feb 13 by SimonBatfordITFC |
Worst pun I’ve herd this year. |
What? Did you miss the udder ones by Phil? | |
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| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 22:43 - Feb 13 with 737 views | Kievthegreat |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 21:54 - Feb 13 by Swansea_Blue |
What? Did you miss the udder ones by Phil? |
This is a serious discussion with lots at steak. No time for silly jokes. |  | | |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 05:21 - Feb 14 with 676 views | noggin |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 22:43 - Feb 13 by Kievthegreat |
This is a serious discussion with lots at steak. No time for silly jokes. |
That's just bull. | |
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| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 06:19 - Feb 14 with 664 views | Benters |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 12:41 - Feb 12 by gtsb1966 |
Who enter the UK illegally. It's the correct decision and about time too. If you break our laws you shouldn't be allowed in. It's a shame they don't just turn them away there and then to be honest. If you want to come here do it the legal way. |
This we are rammed. |  |
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| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 09:22 - Feb 14 with 594 views | Kievthegreat |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 06:19 - Feb 14 by Benters |
This we are rammed. |
No we're making cow puns, not sheep puns! | | | |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 09:37 - Feb 14 with 564 views | Herbivore |
| No British citizenship for genuine refugees on 06:19 - Feb 14 by Benters |
This we are rammed. |
Who'd have thought that ewe'd agree. [Post edited 14 Feb 9:37]
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