| Where do 20:06 - Mar 15 with 2303 views | backwaywhen |
So called Town fans get off on constantly moaning about the team and calling for McKenna head , do they honestly think we would over achieve again as a club , this season was always always going to be difficult and a stiff test for all concerned at the club , the Premier league is rightly known as possibly the best league and also toughest in world football , and here we are so far out performing the two teams below us with far more premiership experience.
Give the club a break and digest what’s happened and how quickly to boot , I finally thought today’s opponents came up and got relegated first season , came back wiser and stronger and guess what they are a million times better for it , take the rough with the smooth as I have always been told and patience will be rewarded .
Uppa Towen . |  | | |  |
| Where do on 20:12 - Mar 15 with 2000 views | LRB84UK |
Man behind us who been a ST holder for years spent the 1st 20 minutes moaning about how much of a bad game Ben Johnson was having. He was getting really angry about how much of a bad game he was having..... I get being fustrated at the players but for goodness sake make sure the player you are moaning about, very loudly, is at least on the pitch! | | | |
| Where do on 20:21 - Mar 15 with 1922 views | Illinoisblue |
| Where do on 20:12 - Mar 15 by LRB84UK |
Man behind us who been a ST holder for years spent the 1st 20 minutes moaning about how much of a bad game Ben Johnson was having. He was getting really angry about how much of a bad game he was having..... I get being fustrated at the players but for goodness sake make sure the player you are moaning about, very loudly, is at least on the pitch! |
I at least hope he was drunk |  |
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| Where do on 20:42 - Mar 15 with 1863 views | Oldsmoker |
I think a lot of us who have been on the journey from League 1 to the Championships last day of last season, had a team to believe in.
At the start of the Premiership we brought in players to improve the squad.
Inevitably that meant replacing our heroes.
For me, those replacements haven't become heroes except for Delap, Cajuste, Szmodics and Palmer.
I'm gutted that Wolf, Taylor, Conor, Broadhead, Hirst and Massimo haven't had more game time.
Was that them or McKenna thinking they weren't good enough.
When they've been used they've done OK - not brilliant but OK.
The games where one mistake was the catalyst for defeat are too many to mention.
The Premiership is no longer dog eats dog but Predator/Alien/Terminator eats fluffy little bunny. |  |
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| Where do on 21:26 - Mar 15 with 1776 views | backwaywhen |
| Where do on 20:42 - Mar 15 by Oldsmoker |
I think a lot of us who have been on the journey from League 1 to the Championships last day of last season, had a team to believe in.
At the start of the Premiership we brought in players to improve the squad.
Inevitably that meant replacing our heroes.
For me, those replacements haven't become heroes except for Delap, Cajuste, Szmodics and Palmer.
I'm gutted that Wolf, Taylor, Conor, Broadhead, Hirst and Massimo haven't had more game time.
Was that them or McKenna thinking they weren't good enough.
When they've been used they've done OK - not brilliant but OK.
The games where one mistake was the catalyst for defeat are too many to mention.
The Premiership is no longer dog eats dog but Predator/Alien/Terminator eats fluffy little bunny. |
We all wanted to believe we will stay up , even I put money on us to do just that , but once the season got underway we could all see the task ahead in all its scary reality it’s much more than most if not all of us thought , and yes we started with some good performances without much reward , as soon as a few injuries hit us we struggled as our backup were not strong enough for this relentless and take no prisoners league, surely we can accept that without calling players out especially the manager , that’s the point I’m trying to make , even though we’ve proved we’re not ready yet a fair few of us are moaning and thinking they know better than those in charge , yes we’re going down but we have and still are giving out best shot .
Judge us upon our return only then can we really justify moaning if nothing has been learnt IMHO. | | | |
| Where do on 21:51 - Mar 15 with 1702 views | BloomBlue |
A lot of fans had unrealistic expectations, based on our L1 and Champ seasons. Which to be fair I can understand, but they failed to grasp the gap to the Prem.
Many Town fans laughed at Burnley last season, predominantly to laugh at Kompany being found out, without realising Burnley's situation was about the gap in quality between the Champ and the Prem. People also hate being proved wrong, so they clutch at straws, ie 'if we replace player A with player B we win that game'. Same now with KM, I'm hearing the odd 'should have sacked him in Dec we would be mid table now'. Town fans always need 1 scapegoat.
My life long Brentford supporting mate had a £100 bet at the start of the season, that all 3 promoted teams would get relegated, candy from a baby as he said. His opinion was based purely on the fact the PL has moved so far in the last 5 seasons and in Town's situation he felt it was impossible to come from L1, Champ to PL.and survive
Football has moved on, but we can be strong again it's just going to take longer than one season in the Prem. Time to step back regroup and come back even stronger |  | | |
| Where do on 22:10 - Mar 15 with 1659 views | ITFCSG |
Constantly moaning? MA, McK and the players must be thanking their lucky stars that they are Ipswich and not at any other PL club.
Check out St Mary's and the King Power if you want to know what real moaning is. Its not even moaning over there atm, it has already gone to full blown dog's abuse with boos and vulgarities being hurled at the players and staff after every match. Or even at Molineux, London Stadium etc even though they are already safe. Or Spurs, will McK be accustomed to thousands streaming out of the ground at HT when the team is behind?
Next season in the Championship, they may not be so lucky though if we don't hit the ground running. If we are not challenging at the top I foresee another repeat of the ugly scenes during our League One days at The Valley and the Memorial Stadium. | | | |
| Where do on 22:11 - Mar 15 with 1646 views | LRB84UK |
Man behind us who been a ST holder for years spent the 1st 20 minutes moaning about how much of a bad game Ben Johnson was having. He was getting really angry about how much of a bad game he was having..... I get being fustrated at the players but for goodness sake make sure the player you are moaning about, very loudly, is at least on the pitch! | | | |
| Where do on 23:53 - Mar 15 with 1496 views | Bigalhunter |
As with most things in life, the reality of this season lies somewhere between the three groups of support that this season has increasingly revealed.
I believe it’s fair to say the majority on here weren’t expecting to adjust comfortably to life in the PL, but the pre season TWTD poll revealed only 18% thought we’d go back down.
Now it’s clear we’ll be down before Easter, the issue has created a bit of tension between those groups.
We have those who are rightly surprised that we’ve only managed one home win as we hit April and have capitulated alarmingly since the start of the year.
They question the gamble of relying on an unfit Kalvin Philips, Aro Muric, who’d been hooked from the relegated Burnley starting 11, and an erratic Ben Johnson as the PL savvy foundation to nurse the likes of Clarke, Greaves, O’Shea and Omari through the obvious step up in quality and expectation. The extreme arm of this group want KM out and talk of us doing a Luton next season.
Then there’s the ones who take a more pragmatic approach, the opposition have big, PL savvy units that bully and outwit our combination of ageing and/or featherweight midfield etc. Somewhat disappointed with how it’s played out but broadly positive that KM might need a couple stabs at the top level before he gets it right.
Finally, those who blindly and petulantly defend KM, pretending it has played exactly as they expected and round on anyone who dares to suggest we’ve underachieved and blown a realistic chance of finishing above a bang average Wolves team. We were playing Forest Green and Cheltenham 500 odd days ago…it’s a miracle we’re even here etc etc.
Most of the sensible ones are a bit of all three.
The home form has been an utter shambles and we recruited poorly.
Kalvin Philips was the prize gamble that just didn’t pay off.
We’ve been unlucky with injuries, but that isn’t the reason we’re going down with a whimper.
KM can’t coach a defence, has found it harder as the season has unfolded and still hasn’t worked out his best 11 as we approach April.
The promising momentum we built up in November and December, when we got our three wins and outplayed Man Utd, Chelsea and Fulham was something KM failed to build on. Whoever was responsible for the January recruitment opportunity to build on that uplift in performance, negligently fecked it right up.
We’re down now so let’s just see how the summer plays out and see if KM wants another stab at it or bails out with the old ‘taken the club as far as I can’ excuse as Aberdeen or some such equivalent challenge come sniffing. |  |
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| Where do on 07:50 - Mar 16 with 1314 views | Blue_In_Boston |
Only Forest didn't get relegated. They gambled on a mix of battle hardened players and future potential. Having said that they did breach the FFP rules. | | | |
| Where do on 08:07 - Mar 16 with 1277 views | MattinLondon |
They’re not ‘so called’ Town fans, they are just Town fans.
This season has been quite tough and the sheer gap between the PL and Championship has surprised many - including myself. Think many saw PL stability as realistic but as I say, the gulf in class is immense.
And on here, the anonymity of board adds to some fans frustration - it’s not like someone will call you out in a pub etc. The internet is still quite remote in people’s interactions and they feel more able to let out anger etc.
I’m sure, many will dust off yesterdays feelings and realise that it’s not all bad. The team can regroup and still look ahead, as even with pending relegation, things are still better than just three seasons ago. |  | | |
| Where do on 08:16 - Mar 16 with 1258 views | lazyblue |
| Where do on 20:42 - Mar 15 by Oldsmoker |
I think a lot of us who have been on the journey from League 1 to the Championships last day of last season, had a team to believe in.
At the start of the Premiership we brought in players to improve the squad.
Inevitably that meant replacing our heroes.
For me, those replacements haven't become heroes except for Delap, Cajuste, Szmodics and Palmer.
I'm gutted that Wolf, Taylor, Conor, Broadhead, Hirst and Massimo haven't had more game time.
Was that them or McKenna thinking they weren't good enough.
When they've been used they've done OK - not brilliant but OK.
The games where one mistake was the catalyst for defeat are too many to mention.
The Premiership is no longer dog eats dog but Predator/Alien/Terminator eats fluffy little bunny. |
A team with all those players would have been relegated weeks ago, love Mass but he is not good enough at this level or the fitness. | | | |
| Where do on 08:19 - Mar 16 with 1243 views | Blue_Heath |
| Where do on 08:07 - Mar 16 by MattinLondon |
They’re not ‘so called’ Town fans, they are just Town fans.
This season has been quite tough and the sheer gap between the PL and Championship has surprised many - including myself. Think many saw PL stability as realistic but as I say, the gulf in class is immense.
And on here, the anonymity of board adds to some fans frustration - it’s not like someone will call you out in a pub etc. The internet is still quite remote in people’s interactions and they feel more able to let out anger etc.
I’m sure, many will dust off yesterdays feelings and realise that it’s not all bad. The team can regroup and still look ahead, as even with pending relegation, things are still better than just three seasons ago. |
Exactly, From day one I never expected us to stay up to be honest but I did expect us to be competitive, win a few games and be in with a shout of staying up until last few games but we are dead in the water with 1/4 of the season to go.
ST's like myself have seen 1 win all season, that is worse than 2018/19, 2002/3 and 1994/5.
Why on earth would people be happy with that? More worryingly, there is no progress on the pitch, we have regressed as a team since the turn of the year.
I actually think the home crowd have been remarkably good given what we have witnessed this season. Take a look at Leicester fans for example if you think us 'so called' Ipswich fans are bad. Sure I moan here but would rather do that than at the game. | | | |
| Where do on 08:21 - Mar 16 with 1241 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Where do on 20:42 - Mar 15 by Oldsmoker |
I think a lot of us who have been on the journey from League 1 to the Championships last day of last season, had a team to believe in.
At the start of the Premiership we brought in players to improve the squad.
Inevitably that meant replacing our heroes.
For me, those replacements haven't become heroes except for Delap, Cajuste, Szmodics and Palmer.
I'm gutted that Wolf, Taylor, Conor, Broadhead, Hirst and Massimo haven't had more game time.
Was that them or McKenna thinking they weren't good enough.
When they've been used they've done OK - not brilliant but OK.
The games where one mistake was the catalyst for defeat are too many to mention.
The Premiership is no longer dog eats dog but Predator/Alien/Terminator eats fluffy little bunny. |
I agree I'd like to have seen more of Wolfy and Broady but Taylor's about right for me, he hasn't shown anything special, Chappers and Hirst have been injured, and Mass is too old/not up to this level. |  |
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| Where do on 08:41 - Mar 16 with 1177 views | MattinLondon |
| Where do on 08:19 - Mar 16 by Blue_Heath |
Exactly, From day one I never expected us to stay up to be honest but I did expect us to be competitive, win a few games and be in with a shout of staying up until last few games but we are dead in the water with 1/4 of the season to go.
ST's like myself have seen 1 win all season, that is worse than 2018/19, 2002/3 and 1994/5.
Why on earth would people be happy with that? More worryingly, there is no progress on the pitch, we have regressed as a team since the turn of the year.
I actually think the home crowd have been remarkably good given what we have witnessed this season. Take a look at Leicester fans for example if you think us 'so called' Ipswich fans are bad. Sure I moan here but would rather do that than at the game. |
I don’t think that we have regressed as a team. The bigger better squads have simply figured out how to play against us. What happens when you play against better teams.
We have the lowest wage bill in the league and unfortunately that shows.
It’s certainly not all doom-and-gloom at all. As a club, we are in a much better position than just three seasons ago. Off the pitch, things are also improving quickly as well. | | | |
| Where do on 09:22 - Mar 16 with 1094 views | ReusersTown |
| Where do on 21:51 - Mar 15 by BloomBlue |
A lot of fans had unrealistic expectations, based on our L1 and Champ seasons. Which to be fair I can understand, but they failed to grasp the gap to the Prem.
Many Town fans laughed at Burnley last season, predominantly to laugh at Kompany being found out, without realising Burnley's situation was about the gap in quality between the Champ and the Prem. People also hate being proved wrong, so they clutch at straws, ie 'if we replace player A with player B we win that game'. Same now with KM, I'm hearing the odd 'should have sacked him in Dec we would be mid table now'. Town fans always need 1 scapegoat.
My life long Brentford supporting mate had a £100 bet at the start of the season, that all 3 promoted teams would get relegated, candy from a baby as he said. His opinion was based purely on the fact the PL has moved so far in the last 5 seasons and in Town's situation he felt it was impossible to come from L1, Champ to PL.and survive
Football has moved on, but we can be strong again it's just going to take longer than one season in the Prem. Time to step back regroup and come back even stronger |
Not much to say on the rest.but 'many town fans laughed at Burnley' is a very bizarre and made up take. | | | |
| Where do on 09:26 - Mar 16 with 1065 views | Olcol |
It's obvious that they are not town supporters. I understand the disappointment and frustration, but constant moaning does nothing but turn the atmosphere toxic. In the heat of the moment you bite your tongue.
All of our players are doing their best, it's stupid to think otherwise. Everyone has bad days, we have had injuries problems that has prevented continuity with team selection.
It's not the end of the world if we are relegated. Our club structure is sound and capable, we will be stronger next time promoted. Our signings are for the future, it was always a five year plan.
It would have been a great achievement to survive this season , but always unlikely.
Every team above has had at least 3 years of 100m+ payments per year, to improve. That's the reality. | | | |
| Where do on 09:27 - Mar 16 with 1060 views | Blue_Heath |
| Where do on 08:41 - Mar 16 by MattinLondon |
I don’t think that we have regressed as a team. The bigger better squads have simply figured out how to play against us. What happens when you play against better teams.
We have the lowest wage bill in the league and unfortunately that shows.
It’s certainly not all doom-and-gloom at all. As a club, we are in a much better position than just three seasons ago. Off the pitch, things are also improving quickly as well. |
Points 2 and 3 agree but statistically we have regressed in 2025 there is absolutely no doubt about that, the other teams have not got better, we have got worse. Although I take your point any manager just needs to attack our wings to win a game. | | | |
| Where do on 09:33 - Mar 16 with 1029 views | SaffronWaldenBlues |
| Where do on 08:19 - Mar 16 by Blue_Heath |
Exactly, From day one I never expected us to stay up to be honest but I did expect us to be competitive, win a few games and be in with a shout of staying up until last few games but we are dead in the water with 1/4 of the season to go.
ST's like myself have seen 1 win all season, that is worse than 2018/19, 2002/3 and 1994/5.
Why on earth would people be happy with that? More worryingly, there is no progress on the pitch, we have regressed as a team since the turn of the year.
I actually think the home crowd have been remarkably good given what we have witnessed this season. Take a look at Leicester fans for example if you think us 'so called' Ipswich fans are bad. Sure I moan here but would rather do that than at the game. |
We’re going to end up with less points and fewer wins than 1994/95 and that’s frankly a disaster. I expected us to drop but not more easily than Luton last season.
The gap is huge, so it further cements how naive the decisions were to sign buckets of additional Championship players and also expect them to step up alongside what we had, meanwhile playing a style of football that was going to be impossible to achieve with those players at that level.
It’s been a cock up. There’s no dressing it up.
The fans however have done their bit and have been excellent all season. The goodwill will only turn if the losing mentality continues on into next season and a few of these expensive signings continue to appear bang average. |  |
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| Where do on 09:36 - Mar 16 with 1019 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Where do on 21:51 - Mar 15 by BloomBlue |
A lot of fans had unrealistic expectations, based on our L1 and Champ seasons. Which to be fair I can understand, but they failed to grasp the gap to the Prem.
Many Town fans laughed at Burnley last season, predominantly to laugh at Kompany being found out, without realising Burnley's situation was about the gap in quality between the Champ and the Prem. People also hate being proved wrong, so they clutch at straws, ie 'if we replace player A with player B we win that game'. Same now with KM, I'm hearing the odd 'should have sacked him in Dec we would be mid table now'. Town fans always need 1 scapegoat.
My life long Brentford supporting mate had a £100 bet at the start of the season, that all 3 promoted teams would get relegated, candy from a baby as he said. His opinion was based purely on the fact the PL has moved so far in the last 5 seasons and in Town's situation he felt it was impossible to come from L1, Champ to PL.and survive
Football has moved on, but we can be strong again it's just going to take longer than one season in the Prem. Time to step back regroup and come back even stronger |
What were the odds on that? |  |
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| Where do on 09:38 - Mar 16 with 1003 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Where do on 20:42 - Mar 15 by Oldsmoker |
I think a lot of us who have been on the journey from League 1 to the Championships last day of last season, had a team to believe in.
At the start of the Premiership we brought in players to improve the squad.
Inevitably that meant replacing our heroes.
For me, those replacements haven't become heroes except for Delap, Cajuste, Szmodics and Palmer.
I'm gutted that Wolf, Taylor, Conor, Broadhead, Hirst and Massimo haven't had more game time.
Was that them or McKenna thinking they weren't good enough.
When they've been used they've done OK - not brilliant but OK.
The games where one mistake was the catalyst for defeat are too many to mention.
The Premiership is no longer dog eats dog but Predator/Alien/Terminator eats fluffy little bunny. |
Uppie for the predator/bunny bit. | |
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| Where do on 09:42 - Mar 16 with 978 views | Herbivore |
| Where do on 07:50 - Mar 16 by Blue_In_Boston |
Only Forest didn't get relegated. They gambled on a mix of battle hardened players and future potential. Having said that they did breach the FFP rules. |
Forest stayed up in a season where all three promoted sides stayed up and you had Leicester, Saints, and Leeds all imploding. Every side in the Prem has got better over the last 2-3 years, we don't have three established sides imploding this year, it was always going to be about finishing above Leicester and Saints (who we're currently above) and hopefully one other. The only side in touching distance has been Wolves, a side that includes three Brazilian international and a handful of Portuguese ones. Their new manager has managed to get enough of a tune out of them that they've pulled away. Not one other side has been close to danger in months.
When making comparisons with what others have done in past seasons, context is important. Forest didn't just have to breach FFP, they also needed more favourable conditions in their relegation battle than we've been afforded. |  |
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| Where do on 09:43 - Mar 16 with 951 views | sjg |
| Where do on 09:42 - Mar 16 by Herbivore |
Forest stayed up in a season where all three promoted sides stayed up and you had Leicester, Saints, and Leeds all imploding. Every side in the Prem has got better over the last 2-3 years, we don't have three established sides imploding this year, it was always going to be about finishing above Leicester and Saints (who we're currently above) and hopefully one other. The only side in touching distance has been Wolves, a side that includes three Brazilian international and a handful of Portuguese ones. Their new manager has managed to get enough of a tune out of them that they've pulled away. Not one other side has been close to danger in months.
When making comparisons with what others have done in past seasons, context is important. Forest didn't just have to breach FFP, they also needed more favourable conditions in their relegation battle than we've been afforded. |
Forest got 38 points. You make your own luck | | | |
| Where do on 09:45 - Mar 16 with 932 views | Herbivore |
| Where do on 09:43 - Mar 16 by sjg |
Forest got 38 points. You make your own luck |
Thanks for completely missing the point and trotting out a trite and largely false platitude. Great quality posting, chief. | |
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| Where do on 09:46 - Mar 16 with 914 views | sjg |
| Where do on 09:45 - Mar 16 by Herbivore |
Thanks for completely missing the point and trotting out a trite and largely false platitude. Great quality posting, chief. |
If we got 38 points we would stay up. It doesn’t matter whether or not 3 established teams imploded, we’d have got relegated in that season playing the way we have this year, or any season ever | | | |
| Where do on 09:52 - Mar 16 with 879 views | Herbivore |
| Where do on 09:46 - Mar 16 by sjg |
If we got 38 points we would stay up. It doesn’t matter whether or not 3 established teams imploded, we’d have got relegated in that season playing the way we have this year, or any season ever |
Christ on a bike. The lack of ability to join a couple of dots from some posters is quite staggering. | |
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