| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... 16:40 - Apr 26 with 2149 views | NthQldITFC |
...and takes the fine.
Time after time this season we've had the opportunity to compete in games taken away from us by appalling refereeing decisions which have the look of being biased against promoted clubs.
It is a disgrace. |  |
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| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 16:44 - Apr 26 with 1711 views | DavoIPB |
They were clearly going to win it before the sending off. Not saying those decisions were right just that we have been really poor as well. |  | | |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 16:46 - Apr 26 with 1645 views | Trequartista |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 16:44 - Apr 26 by DavoIPB |
They were clearly going to win it before the sending off. Not saying those decisions were right just that we have been really poor as well. |
I'm not so sure, Newcastle took 20 minutes to have a shot, we'd done ok up to the red card. Their purple patch where they admittedly could have scored three or four was the 10 minutes before half-time between red card and penalty. |  |
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| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 16:46 - Apr 26 with 1633 views | _clive_baker_ |
Could sound like sour grapes after relegation. I’m sure he’ll comment in his usual measured and articulate way though.
Absolute shambles, sooner we’re out of this sh1t league the better. Nothing is done with supporters in mind, just about milking the gravy train. Feck them. |  | | |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 16:46 - Apr 26 with 1633 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
It wouldn't be a good look and I really hope he doesn't.
Officiating has not gone our way a lot this season but that must not detract from the other factors that has us where we are.
Talk about how far we've come and the fact we need to continue the long-term improvement. Talk about where the likes of Newcastle, Brighton, Forest and Wolves have come from and that is our long-term aim. But let's not sound like we are chewing sour grapes and clutching at straws. |  |
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| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 16:48 - Apr 26 with 1577 views | redrickstuhaart |
Started on the very first game. Has not improved since.
Whether you call it bias or soft corruption (the pressure, the money, expectations of big clubs with influence, the media etc) it is hard enough to compete with the massive gap that has been purposely created by the PL closed shop system. Hard enough without the dice loaded against you as well.
And lets not completely write off actual corruption. Thats how corrupt people get away with it. "Oh it couldnt happen here, not in England". Bollo x it couldnt. Look at the massive amounts of cash involved, the foreign powers etc etc [Post edited 26 Apr 16:49]
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| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 16:54 - Apr 26 with 1439 views | BarcaBlue |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 16:48 - Apr 26 by redrickstuhaart |
Started on the very first game. Has not improved since.
Whether you call it bias or soft corruption (the pressure, the money, expectations of big clubs with influence, the media etc) it is hard enough to compete with the massive gap that has been purposely created by the PL closed shop system. Hard enough without the dice loaded against you as well.
And lets not completely write off actual corruption. Thats how corrupt people get away with it. "Oh it couldnt happen here, not in England". Bollo x it couldnt. Look at the massive amounts of cash involved, the foreign powers etc etc [Post edited 26 Apr 16:49]
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Serious talk of actual corruption is nonsense. Complete tinpot nonsense. |  | | |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 16:56 - Apr 26 with 1396 views | LankHenners |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 16:48 - Apr 26 by redrickstuhaart |
Started on the very first game. Has not improved since.
Whether you call it bias or soft corruption (the pressure, the money, expectations of big clubs with influence, the media etc) it is hard enough to compete with the massive gap that has been purposely created by the PL closed shop system. Hard enough without the dice loaded against you as well.
And lets not completely write off actual corruption. Thats how corrupt people get away with it. "Oh it couldnt happen here, not in England". Bollo x it couldnt. Look at the massive amounts of cash involved, the foreign powers etc etc [Post edited 26 Apr 16:49]
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What is being gained by who from fixing a game between a Champions League chasing team and one that's as good as relegated? |  |
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| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 16:57 - Apr 26 with 1375 views | NthQldITFC |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 16:44 - Apr 26 by DavoIPB |
They were clearly going to win it before the sending off. Not saying those decisions were right just that we have been really poor as well. |
When you say 'clearly going to win it' what I'm sure you mean is that there was a high probability that they were going to win it, 90% perhaps, and I'd agree with that.
But one time in ten we'd might it, if we didn't continuously have our small chance taken away by at best useless, at worst corrupt refereeing. | |
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| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 16:57 - Apr 26 with 1373 views | redrickstuhaart |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 16:54 - Apr 26 by BarcaBlue |
Serious talk of actual corruption is nonsense. Complete tinpot nonsense. |
How do you know that?
Do you really completely dismiss the possibility, with those amounts of money, powerful entities and shady state owned companies, FA nepotism etc? If Platini and company can do it, so can people at the PL or FA. Or the odd referee. Or linesperson.
Think about it. Is your complete dimissal based on a deeply flawed "not in this country" assumption? | | | |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 16:57 - Apr 26 with 1371 views | BarcaBlue |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 16:56 - Apr 26 by LankHenners |
What is being gained by who from fixing a game between a Champions League chasing team and one that's as good as relegated? |
Indeed. | | | |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 16:58 - Apr 26 with 1340 views | redrickstuhaart |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 16:57 - Apr 26 by BarcaBlue |
Indeed. |
Wooosh. | | | |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 17:00 - Apr 26 with 1301 views | NthQldITFC |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 16:54 - Apr 26 by BarcaBlue |
Serious talk of actual corruption is nonsense. Complete tinpot nonsense. |
Not necessarily, you can't say that. You may be right, you're even probably right in the sense of deliberate corruption, but the 'soft' corruption or unconscious bias is very real, arguably obvious. | |
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| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 17:02 - Apr 26 with 1256 views | pointofblue |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 16:56 - Apr 26 by LankHenners |
What is being gained by who from fixing a game between a Champions League chasing team and one that's as good as relegated? |
A club run by Saudi Arabia might be a more attractive proposition in the Champions League than, say, Aston Villa.
Saying that, I don't personally think it's corrupt. Just inept and perhaps human nature to favour the bigger teams/players. | |
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| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 17:03 - Apr 26 with 1232 views | redrickstuhaart |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 16:56 - Apr 26 by LankHenners |
What is being gained by who from fixing a game between a Champions League chasing team and one that's as good as relegated? |
You know how much money is involved in the Champs league? And who owns Newcastle? | | | |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 17:04 - Apr 26 with 1186 views | billlm |
That Salisbury has screwed us over all season, must have a sad life the jerk, |  | | |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 17:04 - Apr 26 with 1188 views | LankHenners |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 17:03 - Apr 26 by redrickstuhaart |
You know how much money is involved in the Champs league? And who owns Newcastle? |
I know you're being a complete divvy that much is for sure. | |
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| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 17:06 - Apr 26 with 1141 views | BarcaBlue |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 17:00 - Apr 26 by NthQldITFC |
Not necessarily, you can't say that. You may be right, you're even probably right in the sense of deliberate corruption, but the 'soft' corruption or unconscious bias is very real, arguably obvious. |
Unconscious bias and real corruption are worlds apart. The former is quite likely, the latter is nonsense. We haven't won once since Christmas because of corruption, we haven't been good enough and that's the reality. No shame in it either but to blame our fate on corruption is ridiculous. | | | |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 17:08 - Apr 26 with 1111 views | redrickstuhaart |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 17:06 - Apr 26 by BarcaBlue |
Unconscious bias and real corruption are worlds apart. The former is quite likely, the latter is nonsense. We haven't won once since Christmas because of corruption, we haven't been good enough and that's the reality. No shame in it either but to blame our fate on corruption is ridiculous. |
How do you know its nonsense.
I ask again, is it because its something that only happens abroad? | | | |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 17:09 - Apr 26 with 1081 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 16:46 - Apr 26 by _clive_baker_ |
Could sound like sour grapes after relegation. I’m sure he’ll comment in his usual measured and articulate way though.
Absolute shambles, sooner we’re out of this sh1t league the better. Nothing is done with supporters in mind, just about milking the gravy train. Feck them. |
Trouble is, with PSR we need to be on/in that gravy train. |  |
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| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 17:10 - Apr 26 with 1056 views | baxterbasics |
I think Kieran will be more concerned with giving his players a word about their discipline. |  |
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| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 17:13 - Apr 26 with 1001 views | Ryorry |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 17:02 - Apr 26 by pointofblue |
A club run by Saudi Arabia might be a more attractive proposition in the Champions League than, say, Aston Villa.
Saying that, I don't personally think it's corrupt. Just inept and perhaps human nature to favour the bigger teams/players. |
The refs are getting paid, they're supposed to be *professional*. |  |
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| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 17:15 - Apr 26 with 970 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 17:10 - Apr 26 by baxterbasics |
I think Kieran will be more concerned with giving his players a word about their discipline. |
Well certainly about being booked when already carded.
Wrongly or not. | |
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| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 17:16 - Apr 26 with 948 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 17:13 - Apr 26 by Ryorry |
The refs are getting paid, they're supposed to be *professional*. |
To be fair their pay is nothing like what the players are being paid is it? | |
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| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 17:16 - Apr 26 with 948 views | redrickstuhaart |
| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 17:13 - Apr 26 by Ryorry |
The refs are getting paid, they're supposed to be *professional*. |
150 / 200k a year I believe.
Not enough to make someone immune to a hundred grand from a dodgy owner.
But there are other sorts of soft corruption at play here too I imagine. VAR at the Leicester game- I remain convinced that they didn't call the obviosu penalty, because it would have put their mate in a really awkward spot, having just sent Phillips off (and wrongly imo) when the game should not have been continuing had he made the correct decision on the pen.
They close ranks and protect each other. [Post edited 26 Apr 17:19]
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| I hope Kieran gives the ref an absolute earful after the game... on 17:17 - Apr 26 with 918 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Doubt Kieran will say too much. Too classy.
Ashton however, fully expecting something from him, including the line "I will defend this club to my dying breath" | |
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