| Ait Nouri 21:36 - May 2 with 1437 views | MillsTash |
Recreates his best Leif on Saka impression, but instead on Bernardo Silva. Of course VAR says “checked and cleared”. Utter joke of a league and officials. |  | | |  |
| Ait Nouri on 21:48 - May 2 with 1324 views | Garv |
Pretty sure it's not a tackle, it's just a clumsy piece of play and unlucky on Silva's part. Never a red card and you know it, and it's very different to Leif's one.
This constant narrative that there's corruption and we're hard done by every week is quite sad. [Post edited 3 May 8:34]
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| Ait Nouri on 21:52 - May 2 with 1284 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Ait Nouri on 21:48 - May 2 by Garv |
Pretty sure it's not a tackle, it's just a clumsy piece of play and unlucky on Silva's part. Never a red card and you know it, and it's very different to Leif's one.
This constant narrative that there's corruption and we're hard done by every week is quite sad. [Post edited 3 May 8:34]
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There are differences. Mainly that Davis' is from behind and late/not towards the ball. However, there was clearly no intent in either foul and the impact was very similar. Due to going over the top of the ball, Ait Nouri catches Silva's ankle in pretty much the same place as Davis caught Saka's.
I agree with you that VAR had no reason to get involved in this instance. However, I remain unconvinced that Davis' was any worse aside from the fact he was going through the back of the player. |  |
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| Ait Nouri on 22:03 - May 2 with 1222 views | EastTownBlue |
Brought to you by the same VAR that thought that Tarkowski’s foul in the Merseyside Derby was not worthy of an upgrade to a red card.
If the ref saw tonight’s foul as a red VAR would not have intervened either. |  | | |
| Ait Nouri on 22:03 - May 2 with 1218 views | LeoMuff |
| Ait Nouri on 21:52 - May 2 by Nthsuffolkblue |
There are differences. Mainly that Davis' is from behind and late/not towards the ball. However, there was clearly no intent in either foul and the impact was very similar. Due to going over the top of the ball, Ait Nouri catches Silva's ankle in pretty much the same place as Davis caught Saka's.
I agree with you that VAR had no reason to get involved in this instance. However, I remain unconvinced that Davis' was any worse aside from the fact he was going through the back of the player. |
Davis sending off was a joke, would never happen if was on a big name player for a big name club. |  |
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| Ait Nouri on 07:02 - May 3 with 798 views | PioneerBlue |
Comparing AN with Lief’s misdemeanour isn’t the same. Comparing AN with the tackle of Dorgu on Omari is more similar imo. For what it’s worth, I thought the AN tackle was stone wall dangerous and met the threshold definition in the second movement after the initial challenge:
A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play. | |
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| Ait Nouri on 08:37 - May 3 with 556 views | Garv |
| Ait Nouri on 21:52 - May 2 by Nthsuffolkblue |
There are differences. Mainly that Davis' is from behind and late/not towards the ball. However, there was clearly no intent in either foul and the impact was very similar. Due to going over the top of the ball, Ait Nouri catches Silva's ankle in pretty much the same place as Davis caught Saka's.
I agree with you that VAR had no reason to get involved in this instance. However, I remain unconvinced that Davis' was any worse aside from the fact he was going through the back of the player. |
I'm also not convinced, but I wonder if it might have been a referee taking into account the game state.
Davis had just been done like an absolute kipper for the second goal, he was arguing with team mates afterwards. I think he was frustrated and that tackle was an outpouring of that, only he'll know. If he's let frustration get the better of him and thought he'd leave one on the main player causing him problems - and I think that may have been the case - he deserved it. | |
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| Ait Nouri on 09:55 - May 3 with 438 views | Superblue95 |
| Ait Nouri on 21:48 - May 2 by Garv |
Pretty sure it's not a tackle, it's just a clumsy piece of play and unlucky on Silva's part. Never a red card and you know it, and it's very different to Leif's one.
This constant narrative that there's corruption and we're hard done by every week is quite sad. [Post edited 3 May 8:34]
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Should have been a red in my opinion. In the replays you can see him extend his leg to make sure his studs make contact with Silva, and I was very surprised when VAR cleared it. He’s a nasty little c**t as we know from our game in December.
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| Ait Nouri on 09:59 - May 3 with 423 views | PhilTWTD |
| Ait Nouri on 09:55 - May 3 by Superblue95 |
Should have been a red in my opinion. In the replays you can see him extend his leg to make sure his studs make contact with Silva, and I was very surprised when VAR cleared it. He’s a nasty little c**t as we know from our game in December.
Agree with your second paragraph though |
Indeed, looked deliberate, can't see why he was planting his foot where he planted it otherwise. |  | | |
| Ait Nouri on 10:01 - May 3 with 408 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Ait Nouri on 09:55 - May 3 by Superblue95 |
Should have been a red in my opinion. In the replays you can see him extend his leg to make sure his studs make contact with Silva, and I was very surprised when VAR cleared it. He’s a nasty little c**t as we know from our game in December.
Agree with your second paragraph though |
It's far worse than leifs. | | | |
| Ait Nouri on 10:09 - May 3 with 393 views | Smoresy |
People love controversy. Pundits, fans, we're insatiable. And yet I haven't seen a single person raise Leif's red card as debatable or unjustified, who isn't also a Town supporter. The only defence I've heard has been relating to Leif's character, that he isn't a nasty player and just had a regrettable moment (this from McKenna, and to his credit Arteta agreed with that assessment).
Garv's described the clear difference between these two incidents, but this is less laughable than the attempts to compare Leif's tackle with Saka's shot the other week. Ait Nouri's skill move becomes a dangerous bit of play and is bizarrely clumsy. I can see why he's received the benefit of the doubt as the attacking player but it's a weird one.
The poor or arguable card decisions lately don't do much for the conspiracy peddlers though. Worst I've seen was the Man Utd player being booked for a foul on him by a Bournemouth chap, while this is a Wolves player perhaps getting fortunate at City's expense. It's the inverse of what I'd expect to see, tin hat on.
Officiating in this country is far from perfect, and many fans are far from objective in their interpretation of events when their team's involved. Neither will change anytime soon! | | | |
| Ait Nouri on 11:33 - May 3 with 275 views | mellowblue |
Law 12 talks in terms of whether the challenge was careless, reckless or uses excessive force. So is quite interpretive. Intention to get the ball is not necessarily a factor. From that I take it They are saying AN's was careless whereas Leif's was excessive force to warrant straight red. Personally I would have said both are reckless punishable with a yellow. The "accidental" nature of the AN challenge weighs heavily in the decision-making. Studs do not not come into the written law, but as we have seen before any stud contact is often interpreted as straight red. I am not sure the written law matches up to real game time situations, for instance it is easy to look carless and tangle legs to force a foul and avoid a yellow. Plenty of dark arts going on. | | | |
| Ait Nouri on 11:49 - May 3 with 248 views | DarkHorse |
That’s a red, all day long. How anyone can believe it’s accidental is beyond me. |  | | |
| Ait Nouri on 11:54 - May 3 with 236 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Ait Nouri on 11:49 - May 3 by DarkHorse |
That’s a red, all day long. How anyone can believe it’s accidental is beyond me. |
Quite.
But even putting that aside, it is far greater force and far more dangerous than leifs. It is full force in the middle of the shin with weight behind it. | | | |
| Ait Nouri on 11:56 - May 3 with 230 views | DarkHorse |
| Ait Nouri on 11:54 - May 3 by redrickstuhaart |
Quite.
But even putting that aside, it is far greater force and far more dangerous than leifs. It is full force in the middle of the shin with weight behind it. |
I agree. Thought Leif’s red was deserved, but it didn’t make me wince to watch it in the same way this one did. | | | |
| Ait Nouri on 13:32 - May 3 with 144 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Ait Nouri on 09:59 - May 3 by PhilTWTD |
Indeed, looked deliberate, can't see why he was planting his foot where he planted it otherwise. |
Yep, Clear red for me.
And I think this is the issue with VAR, it's just a second person's interpretation a 2nd person who's inclination is to protect their colleague.
Would would far better if the VAR team just said to the ref, "we've got that ready if you would like to take a 2nd look", rather than recommending the ref take a 2nd look. The ref could also say, "I'd like to see that again please".
The control needs to begin and end with the on pitch officials IMHO |  |
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