| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 13:50 - May 20 with 2105 views | blueasfook |
He was arrested in 2023 the article says. So Labour weren't even in govt then. Besides, one guy isnt exactly a gang now is it?
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| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 13:57 - May 20 with 2022 views | Bluecoin |
| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 13:50 - May 20 by blueasfook |
He was arrested in 2023 the article says. So Labour weren't even in govt then. Besides, one guy isnt exactly a gang now is it?
Do better. |
Also the wrong sea. |  | | |
| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 13:57 - May 20 with 2024 views | J2BLUE |
'He arrived in the UK on a small boat in 2022 after spending five years in jail in Italy for attempted drug smuggling. He applied for asylum in the UK but never received a decision.'
That should have been a simple decision... |  |
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| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 13:59 - May 20 with 2010 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 13:50 - May 20 by blueasfook |
He was arrested in 2023 the article says. So Labour weren't even in govt then. Besides, one guy isnt exactly a gang now is it?
Do better. |
Also he was helping people get to Europe from Africa so no little boats involved. |  |
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| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 14:00 - May 20 with 2003 views | blueasfook |
| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 13:57 - May 20 by Bluecoin |
Also the wrong sea. |
Poor Dollers. He was so excited at the prospect of proving a point on TWTD, he forgot to actually read the article first! | |
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| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 14:04 - May 20 with 1948 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 13:59 - May 20 by Pinewoodblue |
Also he was helping people get to Europe from Africa so no little boats involved. |
"as part of a £12 million illegal boat crossing operation" |  |
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| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 14:04 - May 20 with 1943 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 14:00 - May 20 by blueasfook |
Poor Dollers. He was so excited at the prospect of proving a point on TWTD, he forgot to actually read the article first! |
Doubt he is smiling. | |
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| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 14:09 - May 20 with 1888 views | Radlett_blue |
| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 13:50 - May 20 by blueasfook |
He was arrested in 2023 the article says. So Labour weren't even in govt then. Besides, one guy isnt exactly a gang now is it?
Do better. |
Rather like arresting a drugs lord. The authorities trumpet about success, but a new lord comes from somewhere to take over the operation so the trade continues. You cannot win the "war on drugs". |  |
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| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 14:09 - May 20 with 1896 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 13:50 - May 20 by blueasfook |
He was arrested in 2023 the article says. So Labour weren't even in govt then. Besides, one guy isnt exactly a gang now is it?
Do better. |
He was arrested due to information from the Italians in 2023.
He's been tracked by The NCA in the UK - "The NCA linked that mobile phone to Ebid and then bugged his home to record evidence. The agency found he was involved in a number of smuggling operations, transporting thousands of men, women and children, often in dangerously overcrowded fishing vessels."
He was the head of an international smuggling operation.
He's now been sentenced (today) to 25 years.
YOU do better. [Post edited 20 May 14:20]
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| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 14:12 - May 20 with 1858 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 13:57 - May 20 by Bluecoin |
Also the wrong sea. |
What do you mean "the wrong sea"?!? Firstly, I didn't mention a sea. But regardless, is only one sea bad and the rest ok?! He was the head of an international gang smuggling people to Europe and the UK, which involved small boats. "Ebid even told an associate to kill and throw any migrants caught with their phones into the sea, in a bid to avoid law enforcement, the NCA said."
I say it's brilliant this guy is in prison. | |
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| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 14:13 - May 20 with 1845 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 13:59 - May 20 by Pinewoodblue |
Also he was helping people get to Europe from Africa so no little boats involved. |
You might want to read the article properly. | |
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| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 14:13 - May 20 with 1854 views | blueasfook |
| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 14:09 - May 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
He was arrested due to information from the Italians in 2023.
He's been tracked by The NCA in the UK - "The NCA linked that mobile phone to Ebid and then bugged his home to record evidence. The agency found he was involved in a number of smuggling operations, transporting thousands of men, women and children, often in dangerously overcrowded fishing vessels."
He was the head of an international smuggling operation.
He's now been sentenced (today) to 25 years.
YOU do better. [Post edited 20 May 14:20]
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Oh dear
Here's the story from another source. They even have a helpful photo showing him being arrested in Isleworth IN 2023!
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/man-who-helped-smuggle-thousands-of-migran
I suggest you stop reading BBC news and go for a source that has helpful pictures. | |
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| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 14:19 - May 20 with 1795 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
"Judge Adam Hiddleston said that Ebid had a “significant managerial role within an organised crime group” - you said it was one bloke!
He was sentenced today. I never claimed it was down to Labour that he was arrested (it's not really down to any government when someone's arrested) but you can bet if he'd carried on smuggling thousands since Labour came in you'd be blaming them. | |
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| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 14:21 - May 20 with 1763 views | blueasfook |
| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 14:19 - May 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
"Judge Adam Hiddleston said that Ebid had a “significant managerial role within an organised crime group” - you said it was one bloke!
He was sentenced today. I never claimed it was down to Labour that he was arrested (it's not really down to any government when someone's arrested) but you can bet if he'd carried on smuggling thousands since Labour came in you'd be blaming them. |
Are you trolling me or something? | |
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| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 14:32 - May 20 with 1677 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 14:21 - May 20 by blueasfook |
Are you trolling me or something? |
"one guy isnt exactly a gang now is it?" - Blueas
"Ebid had a significant managerial role within an organised crime group” - the article Blueas linked.
I just thought you'd be happy that a gang has been smashed. | |
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| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 14:51 - May 20 with 1584 views | Illinoisblue |
Question: is Blueas v Dolly an interesting battle of two TWTD veterans? Or a poundshop Bully v Dryas? |  |
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| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 14:55 - May 20 with 1538 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 14:51 - May 20 by Illinoisblue |
Question: is Blueas v Dolly an interesting battle of two TWTD veterans? Or a poundshop Bully v Dryas? |
There's no "battle", I'm providing helpful information to a good mate. I know he's been worried about people-smuggling gangs so he'll be delighted to know that the head of one was locked up for 25 years today. Well done the NCA and let's hope there's more to come! | |
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| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 15:41 - May 20 with 1468 views | blueasfook |
| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 14:55 - May 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
There's no "battle", I'm providing helpful information to a good mate. I know he's been worried about people-smuggling gangs so he'll be delighted to know that the head of one was locked up for 25 years today. Well done the NCA and let's hope there's more to come! |
The NCA who were basically handed the intel on a plate by the Italian authorities. When you have a proper example of Keir Starmer's "Smash the gangs" policy in action. Please come back to me | |
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| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 16:02 - May 20 with 1372 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 15:41 - May 20 by blueasfook |
The NCA who were basically handed the intel on a plate by the Italian authorities. When you have a proper example of Keir Starmer's "Smash the gangs" policy in action. Please come back to me |
Riiiight. So it doesn't count if we swap intel with other countries, we have to do all the work ourselves for you to be satisfied? Given that these gangs are mostly abroad, wouldn't it be a bit daft not to collaborate with agencies in other countries?
At the end of the day, people smugglers getting locked up is all that matters, and targetting those gangs to bring them down is a good idea, surely? | |
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| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 16:19 - May 20 with 1320 views | blueasfook |
| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 16:02 - May 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Riiiight. So it doesn't count if we swap intel with other countries, we have to do all the work ourselves for you to be satisfied? Given that these gangs are mostly abroad, wouldn't it be a bit daft not to collaborate with agencies in other countries?
At the end of the day, people smugglers getting locked up is all that matters, and targetting those gangs to bring them down is a good idea, surely? |
Yes it shows the last govt were on the ball at least. Yet to see a people smuggler jailed under the new govt. Keir's had some meetings about it though I understand. [Post edited 20 May 16:20]
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| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 17:13 - May 20 with 1144 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 13:57 - May 20 by J2BLUE |
'He arrived in the UK on a small boat in 2022 after spending five years in jail in Italy for attempted drug smuggling. He applied for asylum in the UK but never received a decision.'
That should have been a simple decision... |
Should have been, but the backlog grew under our last zombie government. I wonder whether it’s deliberate. With efficient processing of claims we’d have far fewer people to look after while they wait for a decision, it’d be cheaper and we be removing more people. Far less material to fill the gutter press with and harder to weaponise migration then.
It’s was more likely to have been incompetent government and cuts to key departments (I.e. a false economy), but you never know. The Tories game-plan did seem to be to weaponise the issue as much as possible. |  |
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| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 17:16 - May 20 with 1121 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 17:13 - May 20 by Swansea_Blue |
Should have been, but the backlog grew under our last zombie government. I wonder whether it’s deliberate. With efficient processing of claims we’d have far fewer people to look after while they wait for a decision, it’d be cheaper and we be removing more people. Far less material to fill the gutter press with and harder to weaponise migration then.
It’s was more likely to have been incompetent government and cuts to key departments (I.e. a false economy), but you never know. The Tories game-plan did seem to be to weaponise the issue as much as possible. |
I have been saying for a long time, those parties that gain votes from demonising immigration have no intention of "dealing with it". They would lose those votes if it was no longer an issue.
What did the last government about the issue other than delay and demonise? |  |
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| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 17:27 - May 20 with 1108 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 16:19 - May 20 by blueasfook |
Yes it shows the last govt were on the ball at least. Yet to see a people smuggler jailed under the new govt. Keir's had some meetings about it though I understand. [Post edited 20 May 16:20]
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There’s been some reasonably high profile successful operations so far, e.g:
- https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/dec/30/people-traffickers-behind-extrem
- https://www.gov.uk/government/news/more-than-30-arrests-in-crackdown-on-common-t
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with Labour’s plan. It’s an improvement on what went before (more money, more powers to investigate, tougher laws, freezing assets, and more international collaboration which is absolutely key). It will produce some results, but as mentioned elsewhere in this thread, there’ll always be a new trafficker ready to step in. I don’t think we’ll ever get rid of the gangs nor the people desperate to come here for whatever reason. | |
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| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 17:28 - May 20 with 1102 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Hey, Blueas! You were asking when the gangs would be smashed... on 17:13 - May 20 by Swansea_Blue |
Should have been, but the backlog grew under our last zombie government. I wonder whether it’s deliberate. With efficient processing of claims we’d have far fewer people to look after while they wait for a decision, it’d be cheaper and we be removing more people. Far less material to fill the gutter press with and harder to weaponise migration then.
It’s was more likely to have been incompetent government and cuts to key departments (I.e. a false economy), but you never know. The Tories game-plan did seem to be to weaponise the issue as much as possible. |
According to Blueas, this story "shows the last govt were on the ball"  | |
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