| Israel & Iran 12:29 - Jun 16 with 5192 views | Zx1988 |
At least the media isn't focusing quite as much on Gaza now, eh?
Funny how, after the week Israel had been having with regards to media attention on Gaza, they should suddenly reach the decision to start a war with Iran as well...
Or can we not say that, on the basis that it's antisemitic to suggest that Israel 'plots' things? [Post edited 16 Jun 12:30]
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| Israel & Iran on 09:06 - Jun 18 with 828 views | blueasfook |
| Israel & Iran on 20:18 - Jun 17 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I'm not sure you've been paying attention to Western power plays since you were born. |
I bet you call the the Falklands "Las Malvinas" dont you. |  |
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| Israel & Iran on 09:15 - Jun 18 with 788 views | WD19 |
| Israel & Iran on 20:00 - Jun 17 by J2BLUE |
You kept ignoring the bit about aid to Gaza. Probably because you don't really care and just want to stick it to Israel. |
I’m on holiday and dipping in and out, so may have missed it….but can you explain to me why we need to be incentivising Israel to have a bit of a break from committing genocide!? If they are the good guys will they not work that bit out for themselves? |  | | |
| Israel & Iran on 09:19 - Jun 18 with 762 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Israel & Iran on 08:33 - Jun 18 by DJR |
Here's something that might seem surprising.
"Lost in coverage of the escalating conflict between Iran and Israel is the Iranian Jewish community that has called the country home for centuries.
According to estimates, between 17,000 and 25,000 Iranian Jews are living mostly in larger cities such as Tehran, Isfahan, Shiraz, Hamedan and Tabriz. Next to Israel, Iran has the largest number of people of the Jewish faith in the Middle East. Iran’s parliament, the Majlis, has one reserved seat for the Jewish community.
In Isfahan, one of the city’s most prominent synagogues is located next to a mosque called Al Aqsa, and in Tehran, there are at least 50 synagogues spread across the city.
The Jewish community also runs a hospital in Tehran that caters to all patients regardless of their religious affiliation.
Jewish ties to the country date back as far as 2,700 years ago." [Post edited 18 Jun 8:34]
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So I'm not the only one reading AlJazeera!! |  |
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| Israel & Iran on 09:40 - Jun 18 with 717 views | positivity |
| Israel & Iran on 20:00 - Jun 17 by J2BLUE |
You kept ignoring the bit about aid to Gaza. Probably because you don't really care and just want to stick it to Israel. |
when aid is just another tool used by the israeli government to murder more gazan civilians, i don't think we should be complicit in this.
we shouldn't be helping the israeli government in any way, tougher sanctions akin to those on iran might be a step forward. | |
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| Israel & Iran on 09:47 - Jun 18 with 702 views | J2BLUE |
| Israel & Iran on 09:15 - Jun 18 by WD19 |
I’m on holiday and dipping in and out, so may have missed it….but can you explain to me why we need to be incentivising Israel to have a bit of a break from committing genocide!? If they are the good guys will they not work that bit out for themselves? |
How many times do I need to criticise the Israeli government before you people actually pay attention?
What happened in Israel was awful and any country in the world would have gone after Hamas but the way they have done it has been disgusting. The latest examples being them using tanks to open fire on people queuing for aid and deliberately bombing civilian areas in Iran. I have not said they are the good guys. Netanyahu probably considers the Hamas attack an absolute gift with what it has been able to justify.
I am once of the balanced posters. Perhaps you should ask the people who posted ceasefire now and said Israel should have agreed even if Hamas refused to release the hostages who they think the good guys are? |  |
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| Israel & Iran on 11:47 - Jun 18 with 602 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Israel & Iran on 09:47 - Jun 18 by J2BLUE |
How many times do I need to criticise the Israeli government before you people actually pay attention?
What happened in Israel was awful and any country in the world would have gone after Hamas but the way they have done it has been disgusting. The latest examples being them using tanks to open fire on people queuing for aid and deliberately bombing civilian areas in Iran. I have not said they are the good guys. Netanyahu probably considers the Hamas attack an absolute gift with what it has been able to justify.
I am once of the balanced posters. Perhaps you should ask the people who posted ceasefire now and said Israel should have agreed even if Hamas refused to release the hostages who they think the good guys are? |
You were gung ho for retaliation now from the off when it was obvious where that would lead. I mean it's not as if there is any evidence that Israel could have picked off Hamas' leadership with properly targeted strikes if they had wished is it!!
Ceasefire now at any point since would mean more live hostages...
....now there's balance for you. | |
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| Israel & Iran on 12:26 - Jun 18 with 547 views | blueasfook |
| Israel & Iran on 11:47 - Jun 18 by BanksterDebtSlave |
You were gung ho for retaliation now from the off when it was obvious where that would lead. I mean it's not as if there is any evidence that Israel could have picked off Hamas' leadership with properly targeted strikes if they had wished is it!!
Ceasefire now at any point since would mean more live hostages...
....now there's balance for you. |
Considering the Hamas big wigs are in Qatar, that makes it kind of difficult to pick them off. | |
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| Israel & Iran on 12:29 - Jun 18 with 529 views | lowhouseblue |
realistically iran's play book is getting quite short. even an attack on a us base in the region is not as easy for them as it once was |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Israel & Iran on 12:46 - Jun 18 with 479 views | giant_stow |
| Israel & Iran on 12:29 - Jun 18 by lowhouseblue |
realistically iran's play book is getting quite short. even an attack on a us base in the region is not as easy for them as it once was |
Couldn't they shut the straits of hormuz though? Or do they have chemical weapons? (no idea how realistic either is) |  |
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| Israel & Iran on 12:54 - Jun 18 with 449 views | J2BLUE |
| Israel & Iran on 11:47 - Jun 18 by BanksterDebtSlave |
You were gung ho for retaliation now from the off when it was obvious where that would lead. I mean it's not as if there is any evidence that Israel could have picked off Hamas' leadership with properly targeted strikes if they had wished is it!!
Ceasefire now at any point since would mean more live hostages...
....now there's balance for you. |
And you've been cheerleading for Hamas from the first day but always just about stayed the right side of explicitly saying it.
You wanted no retaliation and for them to keep the hostages as an insurance policy.
That's not balanced, that is stupid. No country in the world would accept that. | |
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| Israel & Iran on 13:07 - Jun 18 with 398 views | Blueschev |
| Israel & Iran on 12:54 - Jun 18 by J2BLUE |
And you've been cheerleading for Hamas from the first day but always just about stayed the right side of explicitly saying it.
You wanted no retaliation and for them to keep the hostages as an insurance policy.
That's not balanced, that is stupid. No country in the world would accept that. |
If you reverse that logic, then do the Palestinians not have a right to retaliate against an occupation spanning almost 60 years? |  | | |
| Israel & Iran on 13:11 - Jun 18 with 381 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Israel & Iran on 12:54 - Jun 18 by J2BLUE |
And you've been cheerleading for Hamas from the first day but always just about stayed the right side of explicitly saying it.
You wanted no retaliation and for them to keep the hostages as an insurance policy.
That's not balanced, that is stupid. No country in the world would accept that. |
Go on then show me some of that cheerleading.
Edit....lol...an uppie from Team Israel always helps to confirm ypu are likely wrong. [Post edited 18 Jun 13:12]
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| Israel & Iran on 13:13 - Jun 18 with 369 views | J2BLUE |
| Israel & Iran on 13:07 - Jun 18 by Blueschev |
If you reverse that logic, then do the Palestinians not have a right to retaliate against an occupation spanning almost 60 years? |
Attacking military targets would be one thing. Raping, killing, torturing and kidnapping civilians is another thing entirely.
What did Hamas think was going to happen after that attack? | |
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| Israel & Iran on 13:15 - Jun 18 with 346 views | J2BLUE |
| Israel & Iran on 13:11 - Jun 18 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Go on then show me some of that cheerleading.
Edit....lol...an uppie from Team Israel always helps to confirm ypu are likely wrong. [Post edited 18 Jun 13:12]
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You know exactly what you have posted on this subject. You go right up to the line but are careful not to cross it.
Save me a job. Hamas, terrorists or freedom fighters? | |
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| Israel & Iran on 13:16 - Jun 18 with 331 views | pointofblue |
| Israel & Iran on 12:29 - Jun 18 by lowhouseblue |
realistically iran's play book is getting quite short. even an attack on a us base in the region is not as easy for them as it once was |
From the BBC:
Iran may have been severely weakened, not just by the last few days’ sustained Israeli air strikes but by the loss or dismantling of its regional proxies in Lebanon, Syria and Gaza.
But it can still do a lot of damage. Top of its target list if the US attacks Iran will be the numerous US bases spread up and down the Gulf. The US Navy’s 5th Fleet HQ at Mina Salman in Bahrain is an obvious target but so too are America’s bases in Iraq and Kuwait.
But it doesn’t end there. The September 2019 massed drone attack on Saudi Arabia’s petrochemical industry was a salutary lesson in just how vulnerable the Gulf’s economic assets are to Iranian missiles and drones.
If the Iranian regime felt its very survival was in danger, or if it decided its Gulf Arab neighbours were complicit in attacking it then it could well be tempted to lash out at desalination plants, oil export terminals or even mine the strategic Strait of Hormuz, choking off nearly 30% of the world’s oil supplies. | |
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| Israel & Iran on 13:17 - Jun 18 with 329 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Israel & Iran on 13:15 - Jun 18 by J2BLUE |
You know exactly what you have posted on this subject. You go right up to the line but are careful not to cross it.
Save me a job. Hamas, terrorists or freedom fighters? |
Lol so basically you posted unfounded slander....how balanced of you. | |
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| Israel & Iran on 13:18 - Jun 18 with 323 views | leitrimblue |
| Israel & Iran on 09:47 - Jun 18 by J2BLUE |
How many times do I need to criticise the Israeli government before you people actually pay attention?
What happened in Israel was awful and any country in the world would have gone after Hamas but the way they have done it has been disgusting. The latest examples being them using tanks to open fire on people queuing for aid and deliberately bombing civilian areas in Iran. I have not said they are the good guys. Netanyahu probably considers the Hamas attack an absolute gift with what it has been able to justify.
I am once of the balanced posters. Perhaps you should ask the people who posted ceasefire now and said Israel should have agreed even if Hamas refused to release the hostages who they think the good guys are? |
Hi there 'balanced poster', how many times does it have to be pointed out. Hamas are bad, genocide is bad.
People who posted ceasefire now are not Hamas supporters, they are/were people who didn't want to see genocide and ethnic cleansing carried out in Gaza.
Why on earth would any sane country defend a country carrying out genocide in exchange for them giving a bit more food to the innocent people they are choosing to starve to death?
Surely any support for a country carrying out genocide should be in exchange for instantly ending their genocidal campaign? |  | | |
| Israel & Iran on 13:25 - Jun 18 with 286 views | J2BLUE |
| Israel & Iran on 13:17 - Jun 18 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Lol so basically you posted unfounded slander....how balanced of you. |
You want me to go back over almost two years of your posts to find evidence? You should report it as abuse if it's unfounded.
I'm off to watch Ascot and the Man City game. In the meantime Team Palestine (was so tempted to say Team Hamas..) can all post patting you on the back and telling you to ignore the nasty man...
Edit: You also avoided the question... [Post edited 18 Jun 13:26]
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| Israel & Iran on 13:30 - Jun 18 with 242 views | Blueschev |
| Israel & Iran on 13:13 - Jun 18 by J2BLUE |
Attacking military targets would be one thing. Raping, killing, torturing and kidnapping civilians is another thing entirely.
What did Hamas think was going to happen after that attack? |
Israel are also guilty of the crimes you list, appalling acts regardless of who carries them out.
What did Israel think was going to happen after decades of illegal occupation and theft of land?
It seems that Palestinians lives are of a lesser value, yet they're expected behave to a higher standard than those whose lives are deemed as more important than theirs. | | | |
| Israel & Iran on 13:31 - Jun 18 with 237 views | vapour_trail |
| Israel & Iran on 09:47 - Jun 18 by J2BLUE |
How many times do I need to criticise the Israeli government before you people actually pay attention?
What happened in Israel was awful and any country in the world would have gone after Hamas but the way they have done it has been disgusting. The latest examples being them using tanks to open fire on people queuing for aid and deliberately bombing civilian areas in Iran. I have not said they are the good guys. Netanyahu probably considers the Hamas attack an absolute gift with what it has been able to justify.
I am once of the balanced posters. Perhaps you should ask the people who posted ceasefire now and said Israel should have agreed even if Hamas refused to release the hostages who they think the good guys are? |
It’s generally for other people to take a view on whether you (or I, or anyone else) is balanced in their posting on here. |  |
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| Israel & Iran on 13:34 - Jun 18 with 228 views | blueasfook |
| Israel & Iran on 13:30 - Jun 18 by Blueschev |
Israel are also guilty of the crimes you list, appalling acts regardless of who carries them out.
What did Israel think was going to happen after decades of illegal occupation and theft of land?
It seems that Palestinians lives are of a lesser value, yet they're expected behave to a higher standard than those whose lives are deemed as more important than theirs. |
When did Israel go into Gaza, kill a load of innocent civilians, take them back into Israel on pick up trucks and parade their bodies around Jerusalem for people to spit on them and kick them? I must have missed that on the news. | |
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| Israel & Iran on 13:35 - Jun 18 with 208 views | leitrimblue |
| Israel & Iran on 13:25 - Jun 18 by J2BLUE |
You want me to go back over almost two years of your posts to find evidence? You should report it as abuse if it's unfounded.
I'm off to watch Ascot and the Man City game. In the meantime Team Palestine (was so tempted to say Team Hamas..) can all post patting you on the back and telling you to ignore the nasty man...
Edit: You also avoided the question... [Post edited 18 Jun 13:26]
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F4ck knows why this still as to be explained to you. But being against genocide and ethnic cleansing does not make you pro Hamas. | | | |
| Israel & Iran on 13:38 - Jun 18 with 177 views | positivity |
| Israel & Iran on 13:34 - Jun 18 by blueasfook |
When did Israel go into Gaza, kill a load of innocent civilians, take them back into Israel on pick up trucks and parade their bodies around Jerusalem for people to spit on them and kick them? I must have missed that on the news. |
so killing a massive amount more innocent civilians, isn't a problem for you as long as they don't spit on them afterwards?
hamas are terrorists, but the israel government are also behaving in a terrorist fashion, we should not be funding or supporting either of them | |
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