Addressing probability and responsibility in times of stress 07:56 - Jul 5 with 2628 views | NthQldITFC | Not sure whether to post this or not, but here goes. It strikes me that this deadly flash flood in Texas has occurred in the state which is at the centre of the oil industry in the country which is pushing fossil fuel use again like no other, and which has the biggest per capita carbon emissions in the world. A country which has been at the forefront of the celebration of excess in consumption and instrumental in pushing the fatal, fantastical dream of ever-lasting growth and the idiotic assumption of safe, infinite absorption of pollution by a dying ecosphere. Is it climate change? Well, as honest and open scientists, statisticians or interested amateurs, we can't absolutely attribute this event specifically to climate change etc...... but OF COURSE IT FKING IS!, and - unless we live behind a shield of selfish, self-delusion or are totally lacking in the ability to understand the basic message of increasing levels of heat energy trapped in our planet, causing unpredictable and catastrophic events of hot/cold, wet/dry, static/kinetic nature all around the world - we all bloody well know it. Yes, it's unfair to blame it all on the US, and yes it's probably offensive to mention it now, but when, if ever, will we accept what we have done, what we are doing and take responsibility, as individuals, as corporations, as states and turn away from unchecked consumerism? We could live happy, healthy, modest lives and give our kids the chance of something similar if we'd all get our heads out of our arses and stop acting like cancerous cells. |  |
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Addressing probability and responsibility in times of stress on 12:52 - Jul 6 with 475 views | Swansea_Blue |
Addressing probability and responsibility in times of stress on 11:56 - Jul 6 by NthQldITFC | Yes, I'm caught between the burden of proof ethos for specific events and the incontrovertible fact that, as you say, climate change IS directly involved in every event. Give 'em an inch and they take a mile. |
Yeah, there is no proof for any specific event and that’s jumped on. It’s pretty much impossible to say exactly how much CC contributes to any event. In the same way that a child’s growth is imperceptible on any specific day but unarguable over the period of a year. |  |
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Addressing probability and responsibility in times of stress on 13:38 - Jul 6 with 443 views | Crawfordsboot |
Addressing probability and responsibility in times of stress on 23:00 - Jul 5 by J2BLUE | I find myself dreaming of a different life. Not one where I fly around the world spending fortunes and consuming endless resources but one where I live a much simpler existence. I love looking at tiny homes on Youtube and imagining new communities of those which are easily affordable, can be fitted to harness rain water and solar power etc. Cheaper living would mean less need to work which could mean cutting down to a couple of days a week. More time with family and friends having bbqs, reading books in the garden, walking along the beach and playing golf, football and badminton. I often wonder what the point is of climbing the career ladder, earning more money and then the classic "your expenses will rise to meet your income". Why? Why not opt out and prioritise being free? Why continue in the rat race just to fund upgrades to more space which isn't needed and more expensive rubbish? I have noticed politicians now saying "those who can work, should work". Well yes, the very small number taking advantage of the system but people who can support themselves? F##k politicians and their productivity. On a side note, videos on van life and people who retire abroad with expenses of $500 a month are my escape. I have no desire, and thankfully no need, to live in a van but I just like seeing that there are ways to opt out of this consumption based game. Anyone else feel like this? |
I saw the report you mention in your side note. I was somewhat disappointed to note that the off grid hero was busy renovating two properties on his piece of land, presumably for the rental income. |  | |  |
Addressing probability and responsibility in times of stress on 14:54 - Jul 6 with 395 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Addressing probability and responsibility in times of stress on 08:42 - Jul 6 by glasso | We have such a poor grasp on the actual timeline of this planet. In the grand scheme of things, the 1950s were yesterday. They were after the industrial revolution, after we started destroying our planet and after we decided that human comfort and 'stuff' is more important than nature. Just like the hot weather a week or so ago when people were saying "but it was hot for a bit in the 70s so it's definitely not climate change!" There is undeniable proof - statistics, research, graphs - that show climate change happening. We know what it causes (including more drastic weather and more frequent instances of freak weather occurrences like this) and yet every time it happens we bury our heads in the sand. Scientists said this would happen and then when it does, we argue with semantics ("hey, you said the sea would rise by 1cm and I can't see it so everything you predicted is nonsense!") Just look at recent events: huge storms, deadly flash floods, devastating forest fires that destroy parts of cities. You can't take these things in isolation and say 'but we had fires before!' You have to step back and look at the big picture and admit we didn't have *all of this* before [Post edited 6 Jul 8:44]
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Yes but I’m talking very specifically about this region in the world and the atmospheric conditions, there’s a reason it happens to states directly above the Gulf when the the hot air hits air from mountain ranges to the north and east. The OP pointed out Texas and their role in Fossil Fuels which I’m not sure was particularly warranted at the onset of this tragedy and a region that’s always dealt with these weather events. If talking about climate change overall not sure why so to quick link this tragic event quite so immediately. The US in general has always had volatile weather and the South in particular, which is geographic. There’s a reason there are not deadly tornado’s and hurricanes happening every year in the UK, as well. You’re seeming to be talking about climate change overall, maybe the OP should have done that as well then. There was a very similar event in 1987, so it’s not like this region is seeing it for the first time unfortunately https://www.ksat.com/weather/2025/07/04/1987-when-the-guadalupe-river-turned-dea |  | |  |
Addressing probability and responsibility in times of stress on 14:58 - Jul 6 with 376 views | J2BLUE |
Addressing probability and responsibility in times of stress on 13:38 - Jul 6 by Crawfordsboot | I saw the report you mention in your side note. I was somewhat disappointed to note that the off grid hero was busy renovating two properties on his piece of land, presumably for the rental income. |
Sorry, what are we talking about here? Got a link please? |  |
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Addressing probability and responsibility in times of stress on 15:46 - Jul 6 with 325 views | StokieBlue |
Addressing probability and responsibility in times of stress on 11:09 - Jul 6 by StokieBlue | Really sad news continuing to be reported of more deaths. A really tragic event. Really no need for MTG to come out blaming weather control nonsense rather than the actual root causes but to be expected from her. As an aside, also some commentary that DOGE cuts are affecting weather forecasting services. Perhaps not specifically in this case but certainly seeing hurricane forecasting. SB |
And another one, even worse this time calling the deaths "murder" due to weather manipulation. MAGA need to get their house in order, this isn't acceptable, people have died. https://www.thedailybeast.com/maga-congressional-candidate-kandiss-taylor-calls- SB |  | |  |
Addressing probability and responsibility in times of stress on 15:50 - Jul 6 with 315 views | NthQldITFC |
Addressing probability and responsibility in times of stress on 14:54 - Jul 6 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior | Yes but I’m talking very specifically about this region in the world and the atmospheric conditions, there’s a reason it happens to states directly above the Gulf when the the hot air hits air from mountain ranges to the north and east. The OP pointed out Texas and their role in Fossil Fuels which I’m not sure was particularly warranted at the onset of this tragedy and a region that’s always dealt with these weather events. If talking about climate change overall not sure why so to quick link this tragic event quite so immediately. The US in general has always had volatile weather and the South in particular, which is geographic. There’s a reason there are not deadly tornado’s and hurricanes happening every year in the UK, as well. You’re seeming to be talking about climate change overall, maybe the OP should have done that as well then. There was a very similar event in 1987, so it’s not like this region is seeing it for the first time unfortunately https://www.ksat.com/weather/2025/07/04/1987-when-the-guadalupe-river-turned-dea |
The point is that we see the effects of global warming - an increased level of energy in the Earth's atmosphere, oceans and surface - through more frequent instances of individual events like these, which overall result in climate change. If you keep saying "something like this happened in 1987 or 1842 or 26BC' so it's nothing new" every time when you (ought to) know full well that severe events of all types are happening more and more frequently in a number of zones, then you are just making excuses for business as usual. You might not like to have to face up to it at this time or any other time if it frightens you or if it challenges your desire to go on living the way you live, but the great big fat reality is that the home of "Drill, baby, drill" is particularly culpable for the desperate state of our only planet, and we can't go on making excuses and wailing about known consequences of selfish and stupid ways of life. |  |
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Addressing probability and responsibility in times of stress on 16:08 - Jul 6 with 294 views | CoachRob |
Addressing probability and responsibility in times of stress on 15:50 - Jul 6 by NthQldITFC | The point is that we see the effects of global warming - an increased level of energy in the Earth's atmosphere, oceans and surface - through more frequent instances of individual events like these, which overall result in climate change. If you keep saying "something like this happened in 1987 or 1842 or 26BC' so it's nothing new" every time when you (ought to) know full well that severe events of all types are happening more and more frequently in a number of zones, then you are just making excuses for business as usual. You might not like to have to face up to it at this time or any other time if it frightens you or if it challenges your desire to go on living the way you live, but the great big fat reality is that the home of "Drill, baby, drill" is particularly culpable for the desperate state of our only planet, and we can't go on making excuses and wailing about known consequences of selfish and stupid ways of life. |
Firstly, don't you find it odd that this person doesn't mention the previous attribution studies done on Texas flooding events? Secondly, ignoring the weird description of the physics, this areas does have frequent flooding events so why were they caught out by this event? We usually find wealthy countries that frequently experience these types of events are well adapted. What was it about this event that caused such loss of life? |  | |  |
Addressing probability and responsibility in times of stress on 20:18 - Jul 6 with 220 views | glasso |
Addressing probability and responsibility in times of stress on 16:08 - Jul 6 by CoachRob | Firstly, don't you find it odd that this person doesn't mention the previous attribution studies done on Texas flooding events? Secondly, ignoring the weird description of the physics, this areas does have frequent flooding events so why were they caught out by this event? We usually find wealthy countries that frequently experience these types of events are well adapted. What was it about this event that caused such loss of life? |
It's slightly off topic, but it's also wild (and so American) that a State that regularly gets hit by awful and deadly weather incidents, hears that things like drilling for oil might cause those same incidents to happen to other people and goes, "yeah, who cares? Let's keep doing it") |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
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