| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met 17:00 - Jul 29 with 1925 views | reusersfreekicks |
Too little too late
60,000 killed
Famine conditions created and enforced
People shot trying to access aid
Far right racist government committing war and humanitarian crimes with impunity
Heard their foreign minister Gideon Sa'ar on news saying no starvation and that Israel is in danger of becoming the czechoslovakia of pre world war 2!!! |  | | |  |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 17:24 - Jul 29 with 1376 views | meekreech |
Starmer is not of this world , how can he give recognition to a state that doesn’t exist?
The sooner this country gets a prime minister and government that knows how to govern the better |  |
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 17:24 - Jul 29 with 1374 views | ArmaghBlue |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 17:24 - Jul 29 by meekreech |
Starmer is not of this world , how can he give recognition to a state that doesn’t exist?
The sooner this country gets a prime minister and government that knows how to govern the better |
And rewarding terrorism in the process!! |  | | |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 17:26 - Jul 29 with 1367 views | Zx1988 |
I imagine that this is the cue for Israel to meet the conditions in the most tenuous way, get the UN meeting out of the way, and then get back to the genocide. | |
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 17:28 - Jul 29 with 1352 views | reusersfreekicks |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 17:24 - Jul 29 by ArmaghBlue |
And rewarding terrorism in the process!! |
Is this irony? | | | |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 17:33 - Jul 29 with 1328 views | ArmaghBlue |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 17:28 - Jul 29 by reusersfreekicks |
Is this irony? |
Wouldn’t expect you lot to agree with the truth  | | | |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 17:39 - Jul 29 with 1257 views | Swansea_Blue |
Why is Starmer conflating Hamas with Palestine? Anyone criticising all of Israel because of Natanyahoo’s crimes would be considered an anti-Semite. It makes no sense.
Although…is this a way of leveraging the hostages to force Israel to accept a two state solution? It could be a master stroke if it works, but I’m not holding my breath. [Post edited 29 Jul 17:45]
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 17:47 - Jul 29 with 1191 views | baxterbasics |
A massive gift to Hamas negotiators this. They'll be digging in now.
Reckon Keir only said it because his mate across the channel went first. |  |
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 17:49 - Jul 29 with 1185 views | Swansea_Blue |
Don’t knock it. UVF has been a lifesaver for many couples who couldn’t have kids through natural ‘means’. I’ve obviously offered to step in and provide the natural ‘service’ several times (who could refuse?), but for some reason it only earns me slaps. | |
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 17:52 - Jul 29 with 1164 views | giant_stow |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 17:47 - Jul 29 by baxterbasics |
A massive gift to Hamas negotiators this. They'll be digging in now.
Reckon Keir only said it because his mate across the channel went first. |
The posts on this short thread already show the bind Starmer's in.
I don't see how this rewards Hamas and they're already dug in, but equally, the deliberate starvation of 2m people can't go unchallenged. If you want to blame someone for this, blame the Isreali govt. |  |
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 17:53 - Jul 29 with 1154 views | leitrimblue |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 17:49 - Jul 29 by Swansea_Blue |
Don’t knock it. UVF has been a lifesaver for many couples who couldn’t have kids through natural ‘means’. I’ve obviously offered to step in and provide the natural ‘service’ several times (who could refuse?), but for some reason it only earns me slaps. |
Yer a proper gent Swansea. |  | | |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 17:53 - Jul 29 with 1155 views | StokieBlue |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 17:24 - Jul 29 by ArmaghBlue |
And rewarding terrorism in the process!! |
Or punishing the killing of 60000 people and an attempt to starve the rest whilst destroying as much infrastructure as possible?
SB |  |
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 17:59 - Jul 29 with 1072 views | Clapham_Junction |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 17:24 - Jul 29 by meekreech |
Starmer is not of this world , how can he give recognition to a state that doesn’t exist?
The sooner this country gets a prime minister and government that knows how to govern the better |
In what way doesn't it exist? There has been a Palestinian government since the 1990s.
Nearly three quarters of other countries recognise Palestine as a state. |  | | |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 18:02 - Jul 29 with 1049 views | NthQldITFC |
It is far too little, far too late and our government along with other western governments can never expunge that - and must never try to pretend that they were always doing the right thing - but the important thing now is that the right thing is done from this point forward, unlimited by the unpredictable future whims of some mad orange baboon sadly lacking in even the most rudimentary of moral compasses.
Personally, I'll doubt I'll ever be able to think of Israel as anything other than an den of evil now, that's what this has done to me (not that that is relevant) much as my grandparents could never think of Germany as anything other than a den of evil. It's not fair on a proportion of the population of that sorry country, but then again they do have a democratic system.
The constant lies from the mouths of their official representatives and their foreign sponsors, contrary to all the obvious evidence, makes me sick, sick sick and wonder if they have come to lack any semblance of even a basic human decency. |  |
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 18:18 - Jul 29 with 973 views | giant_stow |
Interesting that Corbyn and Davy are both pissed off with the recognising of statehood being used as a bargaining chip. I'm not sure what else it could have ever been, given we don't run the world anymore. Maybe I'm taking pragmatism too far, but why not try to leverage what little power you have? | |
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 18:25 - Jul 29 with 942 views | Clapham_Junction |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 18:18 - Jul 29 by giant_stow |
Interesting that Corbyn and Davy are both pissed off with the recognising of statehood being used as a bargaining chip. I'm not sure what else it could have ever been, given we don't run the world anymore. Maybe I'm taking pragmatism too far, but why not try to leverage what little power you have? |
We could have just recognised them without any conditions, like most other countries have.
I think it reflects pretty poorly on the UK government that we are not willing to recognise Palestine because it's the right thing to do, but to punish Israel, and that if Israel does what we want, we won't grant them recognition. | | | |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 18:29 - Jul 29 with 923 views | giant_stow |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 18:25 - Jul 29 by Clapham_Junction |
We could have just recognised them without any conditions, like most other countries have.
I think it reflects pretty poorly on the UK government that we are not willing to recognise Palestine because it's the right thing to do, but to punish Israel, and that if Israel does what we want, we won't grant them recognition. |
I get what you're saying and you're probably right. But at the same time if he'd just announced the recognition now, what would it achieved? If he can get something out of it, or at least make a point about the Israeli govt's behavior then isn't there more value in that? | |
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 18:39 - Jul 29 with 805 views | buoyant |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 17:33 - Jul 29 by ArmaghBlue |
Wouldn’t expect you lot to agree with the truth |
Maybe take your blinkers off? |  |
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 19:06 - Jul 29 with 622 views | reusersfreekicks |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 17:47 - Jul 29 by baxterbasics |
A massive gift to Hamas negotiators this. They'll be digging in now.
Reckon Keir only said it because his mate across the channel went first. |
60000 dead.
People being intentionally starved.
Yeah let's focus on Hamas
Ffs | | | |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 19:24 - Jul 29 with 526 views | LeoMuff |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 19:06 - Jul 29 by reusersfreekicks |
60000 dead.
People being intentionally starved.
Yeah let's focus on Hamas
Ffs |
I mean do Hamas even exist as an entity any more ? Surely leaders are now dead, arms destroyed. I can’t see how Hamas functions in any way now |  |
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 19:32 - Jul 29 with 501 views | brazil1982 |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 17:53 - Jul 29 by StokieBlue |
Or punishing the killing of 60000 people and an attempt to starve the rest whilst destroying as much infrastructure as possible?
SB |
Does the 60000 include Hamas terrorists? |  | | |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 19:40 - Jul 29 with 485 views | leitrimblue |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 19:32 - Jul 29 by brazil1982 |
Does the 60000 include Hamas terrorists? |
You think some of the tens of thousands of innocent women and children murdered may have been Hamas? | | | |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 19:42 - Jul 29 with 474 views | brazil1982 |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 19:06 - Jul 29 by reusersfreekicks |
60000 dead.
People being intentionally starved.
Yeah let's focus on Hamas
Ffs |
Hamas are responsible for this, despite what their PR agency says. | | | |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 19:49 - Jul 29 with 458 views | reusersfreekicks |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 19:42 - Jul 29 by brazil1982 |
Hamas are responsible for this, despite what their PR agency says. |
So ridiculous and pathetic it's not as offensive as it could be.
Who's side were you on in 1939? | | | |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 19:50 - Jul 29 with 446 views | leitrimblue |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 19:42 - Jul 29 by brazil1982 |
Hamas are responsible for this, despite what their PR agency says. |
Justifying genocide really isn't a good look, but here you are.. | | | |
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