| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met 17:00 - Jul 29 with 2179 views | reusersfreekicks |
Too little too late
60,000 killed
Famine conditions created and enforced
People shot trying to access aid
Far right racist government committing war and humanitarian crimes with impunity
Heard their foreign minister Gideon Sa'ar on news saying no starvation and that Israel is in danger of becoming the czechoslovakia of pre world war 2!!! |  | | |  |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 19:51 - Jul 29 with 573 views | reusersfreekicks |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 19:24 - Jul 29 by LeoMuff |
I mean do Hamas even exist as an entity any more ? Surely leaders are now dead, arms destroyed. I can’t see how Hamas functions in any way now |
It suited the Israeli government to fund them.
Now it suits them to talk up their current power.
All means to an end - total destruction of Palestine | | | |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:00 - Jul 29 with 561 views | MattinLondon |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 19:51 - Jul 29 by reusersfreekicks |
It suited the Israeli government to fund them.
Now it suits them to talk up their current power.
All means to an end - total destruction of Palestine |
And after the destruction comes the beach resorts and then the package holidays. |  | | |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:04 - Jul 29 with 533 views | noggin |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 19:42 - Jul 29 by brazil1982 |
Hamas are responsible for this, despite what their PR agency says. |
Wow! |  |
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:06 - Jul 29 with 525 views | bartyg |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 19:42 - Jul 29 by brazil1982 |
Hamas are responsible for this, despite what their PR agency says. |
Patently absurd
Innocents are being starved to death and there's only one group with any power here- Israel and the IDF.
Even in your twisted logic how can starving and killing a population be justified? |  | | |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:14 - Jul 29 with 492 views | noggin |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 19:42 - Jul 29 by brazil1982 |
Hamas are responsible for this, despite what their PR agency says. |
Do you think German children should have been starved to death and shot while queuing for food, during WW2? I mean, that would be the Nazi’s fault, right? | |
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:20 - Jul 29 with 459 views | StokieBlue |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 19:42 - Jul 29 by brazil1982 |
Hamas are responsible for this, despite what their PR agency says. |
In no way is the response proportional, you're essentially given Israel a free pass to kill and starve as many people as they like.
I honestly can't believe there are still people with an attitude like yours around given what has happened since the attacks.
I actually find your post pretty offensive.
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:25 - Jul 29 with 457 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Murdering Israeli c@nts....
Awdah Hathaleen, a Palestinian activist and journalist who helped make the Oscar-winning documentary No Other Land, has been killed during an attack by Israeli settlers in the south Hebron hills, prompting a wave of condemnation of what was described as state impunity for Israeli settler violence.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/29/palestinian-awdah-hathaleen-oscar- |  |
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:28 - Jul 29 with 442 views | StokieBlue |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:25 - Jul 29 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Murdering Israeli c@nts....
Awdah Hathaleen, a Palestinian activist and journalist who helped make the Oscar-winning documentary No Other Land, has been killed during an attack by Israeli settlers in the south Hebron hills, prompting a wave of condemnation of what was described as state impunity for Israeli settler violence.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/29/palestinian-awdah-hathaleen-oscar- |
Settler violence is essentially another word for terrorism but you'll not hear many governments or some posters on here say that.
In reality, how is this that much different to terrorist attacks:
"A video captured on Monday appears to show an Israeli settler, Yinon Levi, who was put under sanctions by the US president Joe Biden then removed from the sanctions list by Donald Trump, firing his gun wildly at residents of the village of Umm al-Khair at the time of the killing."
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:28 - Jul 29 with 438 views | Whos_blue |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:20 - Jul 29 by StokieBlue |
In no way is the response proportional, you're essentially given Israel a free pass to kill and starve as many people as they like.
I honestly can't believe there are still people with an attitude like yours around given what has happened since the attacks.
I actually find your post pretty offensive.
SB [Post edited 29 Jul 20:26]
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The problem is Stokie is that you end up with the dilema of calling out their bobbins and giving them the attention they crave or just ignoring them and starve them of the oxygen they desire.
The opinions are so extreme, you have no chance of ever changing their opinion.
I'd rather engage with someone you can disagree with but have a decent debate with. This is a complete waste of time mate. |  |
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:40 - Jul 29 with 400 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:28 - Jul 29 by StokieBlue |
Settler violence is essentially another word for terrorism but you'll not hear many governments or some posters on here say that.
In reality, how is this that much different to terrorist attacks:
"A video captured on Monday appears to show an Israeli settler, Yinon Levi, who was put under sanctions by the US president Joe Biden then removed from the sanctions list by Donald Trump, firing his gun wildly at residents of the village of Umm al-Khair at the time of the killing."
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State supported terrorism at that,
'About a dozen Israeli soldiers raided the mourning tent, pushing those attending out while keeping a thumb on the pin of a stun grenade. Soldiers declared the area a closed military zone and said only residents of the village could be present. They arrested two activists and threw stun grenades at journalists who were too slow to leave.
“Coming to the place that he was killed, where they killed him, and kicking people out? This is not a life, this is against any law in the world,” said Alaa as soldiers pushed him out of the tent.'
Despite the area being a closed military zone, residents later sent a video of a settler operating a bulldozer in the village.' | |
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:41 - Jul 29 with 396 views | brazil1982 |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 19:50 - Jul 29 by leitrimblue |
Justifying genocide really isn't a good look, but here you are.. |
Blaming a terrorist organisation for their contempt of their people does not "justify" anything. My blame on Hamas goes against many on here, where the finger of blame is rarely pointed at Hamas. They should disarm and release the hostages from their dungeons. But, they won't as all the international pressure is on Israel. ISIS in disguise are to blame for the awful situation in Syria; the RSF in Sudan, the Houthis (Iran) for the situation in Yemen. Min Aung Hlaing for the desperate situation in Burma. |  | | |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:44 - Jul 29 with 384 views | Mercian |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:41 - Jul 29 by brazil1982 |
Blaming a terrorist organisation for their contempt of their people does not "justify" anything. My blame on Hamas goes against many on here, where the finger of blame is rarely pointed at Hamas. They should disarm and release the hostages from their dungeons. But, they won't as all the international pressure is on Israel. ISIS in disguise are to blame for the awful situation in Syria; the RSF in Sudan, the Houthis (Iran) for the situation in Yemen. Min Aung Hlaing for the desperate situation in Burma. |
It would help your argument if you had a clue what you are on about. Iran are extremely anti ISIS. |  | | |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:44 - Jul 29 with 384 views | Bigalhunter |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:20 - Jul 29 by StokieBlue |
In no way is the response proportional, you're essentially given Israel a free pass to kill and starve as many people as they like.
I honestly can't believe there are still people with an attitude like yours around given what has happened since the attacks.
I actually find your post pretty offensive.
SB [Post edited 29 Jul 20:26]
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Unfortunately, this merely highlights that, despite the ongoing cull, there still remains some appallingly ignorant and utterly revolting individuals lurking on the fringes of the forum.. |  |
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:48 - Jul 29 with 359 views | StokieBlue |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:44 - Jul 29 by Bigalhunter |
Unfortunately, this merely highlights that, despite the ongoing cull, there still remains some appallingly ignorant and utterly revolting individuals lurking on the fringes of the forum.. |
This thread has seen the demise of the crypto shill though from the looks of things.
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 21:08 - Jul 29 with 318 views | reusersfreekicks |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:41 - Jul 29 by brazil1982 |
Blaming a terrorist organisation for their contempt of their people does not "justify" anything. My blame on Hamas goes against many on here, where the finger of blame is rarely pointed at Hamas. They should disarm and release the hostages from their dungeons. But, they won't as all the international pressure is on Israel. ISIS in disguise are to blame for the awful situation in Syria; the RSF in Sudan, the Houthis (Iran) for the situation in Yemen. Min Aung Hlaing for the desperate situation in Burma. |
B/S 10 out of 10 | | | |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 21:24 - Jul 29 with 289 views | mellowblue |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:44 - Jul 29 by Mercian |
It would help your argument if you had a clue what you are on about. Iran are extremely anti ISIS. |
I think you have misread it. Their is no Isis/Iran connection in the text. |  | | |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 21:31 - Jul 29 with 268 views | Bigalhunter |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:48 - Jul 29 by StokieBlue |
This thread has seen the demise of the crypto shill though from the looks of things.
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Amazed that creation evaded the noose for so long.
Ah well, proof basic human decency will always win out eventually. | |
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 21:34 - Jul 29 with 257 views | DJR |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:40 - Jul 29 by BanksterDebtSlave |
State supported terrorism at that,
'About a dozen Israeli soldiers raided the mourning tent, pushing those attending out while keeping a thumb on the pin of a stun grenade. Soldiers declared the area a closed military zone and said only residents of the village could be present. They arrested two activists and threw stun grenades at journalists who were too slow to leave.
“Coming to the place that he was killed, where they killed him, and kicking people out? This is not a life, this is against any law in the world,” said Alaa as soldiers pushed him out of the tent.'
Despite the area being a closed military zone, residents later sent a video of a settler operating a bulldozer in the village.' |
What's going on in the West Bank is also ethnic cleansing. |  | | |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 08:57 - Jul 30 with 166 views | baxterbasics |
My more considered thoughts on this.
I agree that such a move shouldn't be used as leverage in the way UK gov is now doing.
Either it is right that Palestine be recognised, or it isn't.
I feel in order to recognise a legitimate state, there has to be one ready to be recognised. There needs to be a government ready to lead, or at least an agreed process by which one can be elected. One which is prepared to acknowledge the existence of it's neighbour and not looking to wipe them out. These conditions are far from met in Palestinian territories. So whilst I would love to think there's a cosy two-state solution around the corner, this is a long long way off, and it's a no from me - and the brutality of Israel doesn't change these facts. |  |
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 09:00 - Jul 30 with 160 views | SimonBatfordITFC |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 08:57 - Jul 30 by baxterbasics |
My more considered thoughts on this.
I agree that such a move shouldn't be used as leverage in the way UK gov is now doing.
Either it is right that Palestine be recognised, or it isn't.
I feel in order to recognise a legitimate state, there has to be one ready to be recognised. There needs to be a government ready to lead, or at least an agreed process by which one can be elected. One which is prepared to acknowledge the existence of it's neighbour and not looking to wipe them out. These conditions are far from met in Palestinian territories. So whilst I would love to think there's a cosy two-state solution around the corner, this is a long long way off, and it's a no from me - and the brutality of Israel doesn't change these facts. |
By that definition we ought to stop recognising Israel as a legitimate state. [Post edited 30 Jul 9:09]
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 09:13 - Jul 30 with 112 views | reusersfreekicks |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 09:00 - Jul 30 by SimonBatfordITFC |
By that definition we ought to stop recognising Israel as a legitimate state. [Post edited 30 Jul 9:09]
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Precisely
And Russia and Iran and Belarus and.......
Nonsense criteria there | | | |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 09:16 - Jul 30 with 105 views | Radlett_blue |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 08:57 - Jul 30 by baxterbasics |
My more considered thoughts on this.
I agree that such a move shouldn't be used as leverage in the way UK gov is now doing.
Either it is right that Palestine be recognised, or it isn't.
I feel in order to recognise a legitimate state, there has to be one ready to be recognised. There needs to be a government ready to lead, or at least an agreed process by which one can be elected. One which is prepared to acknowledge the existence of it's neighbour and not looking to wipe them out. These conditions are far from met in Palestinian territories. So whilst I would love to think there's a cosy two-state solution around the corner, this is a long long way off, and it's a no from me - and the brutality of Israel doesn't change these facts. |
When led by relative moderates,Israel & the PLO have been near to agreeing a 2 state solution. But how long do you think that would last, as extremists on both sides would be hostile. It's a bit like Northern Ireland, where the people have more trust in the extremists, not trusting the moderates to produce an acceptable compromise so Adams & Paisley effectively had to reach an agreement. |  |
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 09:23 - Jul 30 with 81 views | buoyant |
| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 20:41 - Jul 29 by brazil1982 |
Blaming a terrorist organisation for their contempt of their people does not "justify" anything. My blame on Hamas goes against many on here, where the finger of blame is rarely pointed at Hamas. They should disarm and release the hostages from their dungeons. But, they won't as all the international pressure is on Israel. ISIS in disguise are to blame for the awful situation in Syria; the RSF in Sudan, the Houthis (Iran) for the situation in Yemen. Min Aung Hlaing for the desperate situation in Burma. |
This is miles off.
Your level of knowledge on the wider situation in the ME and SSA completely devalues your commentry on the Palestinian's problems IMO.
Maybe do a bit more research before spouting our nonsense. |  |
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| UK to recognise Palestine in September unless certain conditions are met on 10:37 - Jul 30 with 32 views | Rimsy |
If you're going to recognise Palestine, then do it. You can't just threaten to do it unless Israel do what you want. Starmer really does come out with some utter nonsense. |  |
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