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First Town Player to Down Tools 07:04 - Aug 3 with 3402 views

Assuming it's true, is Omari the first Town player ever to down tools and force a move?

It's quite a recent tactic by elite players and their agents, so I doubt it's happened to us before given we'd been out the top flight for so long.

Another reason to hate modern football. SBR would turn in his grave.

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 13:02 - Aug 3 with 532 views

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He played in Tuesday and put a lot of effort in. Don’t believe all the rumours.

First Town Player to Down Tools on 13:09 - Aug 3 with 516 views

Nthsuffolkblue

The first Town player I recall reported to have done this is Jon Walters when Keane refused to accept a decent level of bid from Stoke. Is there any evidence Hutchinson has done this at all? If we have turned down an offer significantly above the release clause all parties agreed to and has now expired fair enough but where is the evidence any of this is true?

The point of transfer fees are to compensate a selling club. If a player has a release clause that takes away the uncertainty over acceptable value it can be helpful. Where there is that uncertainty because there is no release clause, the only resort for a player where a club will not accept reasonable offers is to withdraw their labour which would come at the cost of them not receiving their salary. However, speculation without any evidence is poor in my opinion.

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 13:50 - Aug 3 with 455 views

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 11:20 - Aug 3 by BlueOura

Not sure about that, sounds very much like it came from the player to me.

"He didn’t feel mentally in the right place to come for the game,”

Also goes on to mention the club having a right to hold their position.

I'm pretty sure he would have specifically said it was a coaching staff decision if that was the case, and if he had wanted to protect the player. Evidently he didn't, and Omari is now justifiably receiving some criticism.

Or it was to highlight the club's duty of care towards one of their younger employees.

Plus protecting a player who will be of great value either on the pitch or by bringing in a substantial transfer fee.

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 14:31 - Aug 3 with 422 views

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 07:34 - Aug 3 by Blue_In_Boston
Didn't Szmodics do the same last year, albeit at Blackburn to get his move here? It's not nice when the boot is on the other foot, but that's modern day football. Contracts are meaningless. We let Morsy out of his to secure a fantastic pay day for himself, which sets a precedence

I was under the impression this was different. Blackburn made a promise to him and they went back on it, so then he downed tools is how I understand it went.

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 15:00 - Aug 3 with 378 views

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FWIW, I thought Omari was brilliant when hew came on v Charlton on Tuesday. No downed tools in that one. There's clearly a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes. We don't know all the details so I appreciate the honesty from both Omari and McK, as opposed to making up some nonsense or other about a fake injury.

Agree about SBR turning in his grave.
Also SBR: departed Ipswich to pursue personal ambition, leaving us to fall apart without achieving our goal of winning the title.

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 15:03 - Aug 3 with 368 views

Mark

First Town Player to Down Tools on 15:00 - Aug 3 by horsehollerer

Sir Bobby left Ipswich to become the England manager, to lead his country, I expect he felt it a duty as well as personal ambition.

First Town Player to Down Tools on 15:15 - Aug 3 with 338 views

DavoIPB

Who said he downed tools. I haven't seen anybody connected to the club say that.

First Town Player to Down Tools on 15:16 - Aug 3 with 338 views

horsehollerer

First Town Player to Down Tools on 15:03 - Aug 3 by Mark
Sir Bobby left Ipswich to become the England manager, to lead his country, I expect he felt it a duty as well as personal ambition.

Absolutely SBR didn't owe us a thing. I was just trying to make the point that players and managers have always left clubs to do "better" things, it's just they do it a lot faster now, and for a lot more money!

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 16:29 - Aug 3 with 282 views

Tampa_Florida_Blue

The earliest one which comes to my mind is Eric Gates. He kicked his toys out of the pram and went back home in NE England as he was always the sub (only 1 sub per game back then) and was never a starter.
Bobby Robson went up there, gave him a hug a told him he loved him and Gatesie came back down.

First Town Player to Down Tools on 17:26 - Aug 3 with 249 views

mellowblue

First Town Player to Down Tools on 16:29 - Aug 3 by Tampa_Florida_Blue
The earliest one which comes to my mind is Eric Gates. He kicked his toys out of the pram and went back home in NE England as he was always the sub (only 1 sub per game back then) and was never a starter. Bobby Robson went up there, gave him a hug a told him he loved him and Gatesie came back down.

As I remember it, Gates always had a problem with homesickness ?

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 17:43 - Aug 3 with 232 views

Churchman

First Town Player to Down Tools on 09:14 - Aug 3 by MrBeckinsale
Jonathan Douglas did it, but was in the middle of the pitch at Newcastle at the time.

I didn’t know he had any tools. Whenever I saw him play I always thought that apart from the divers boots he’d left them in the back of his Reliant Robin.

Did Billy Baxter and Tommy Carroll down tools before or after their confrontation with Robson or where they just binned/sent to the stiffs?

First Town Player to Down Tools on 17:47 - Aug 3 with 227 views

oldburian

First Town Player to Down Tools on 17:43 - Aug 3 by Churchman
I didn’t know he had any tools. Whenever I saw him play I always thought that apart from the divers boots he’d left them in the back of his Reliant Robin. Did Billy Baxter and Tommy Carroll down tools before or after their confrontation with Robson or where they just binned/sent to the stiffs?

They were binned as John Cobbold sided with Robson. Shame as Baxter was a great player for us but there was no alternative.

First Town Player to Down Tools on 18:38 - Aug 3 with 201 views

Churchman

First Town Player to Down Tools on 17:47 - Aug 3 by oldburian
They were binned as John Cobbold sided with Robson. Shame as Baxter was a great player for us but there was no alternative.

Thanks for that. You are right, Robson was rightly supported.

Again you are right - Baxter was a terrific player, but from what I’ve read a rather strange man. I did see him play, but was too young to remember him sadly.

I wonder what the Cobbolds would have made of the Hutchinson situation this weekend if what is being guessed at is correct? Not a lot is my guess.

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 20:08 - Aug 3 with 174 views

SmithersJones

Going back a bit now, but Eric Gates walked out on the club in the mid/late seventies (although not to force a transfer but to get more game time). He went back to Carlisle and got a job picking potatoes, so the story went. A few days later he was back, and in the team. SBR was a football romantic in many ways but he had a fair old pragmatic streak as well.

First Town Player to Down Tools on 20:17 - Aug 3 with 164 views

Tampa_Florida_Blue

First Town Player to Down Tools on 17:26 - Aug 3 by mellowblue
As I remember it, Gates always had a problem with homesickness ? [Post edited 3 Aug 17:26]

Yes he did, and he always needed the arm of Bobby Robson to keep him happy. You imagine how coaches are now, they don’t have just 1 playing thinking he should play week in week out. This makes me think about HH leaving his home town to come to little Ipswich and knows only Omar but even then not to well.

First Town Player to Down Tools on 03:19 - Aug 4 with 66 views

flykickingbybgunn

First Town Player to Down Tools on 09:37 - Aug 3 by You_Bloo_Right
Arguably Billy Baxter and Tommy Carroll forced a move didn't they?

I would have said Tommy Carroll and Billy Baxter thumping Bobby Robson in the dressing room was a pretty effective way of getting a transfer.

They had been left out of a team that had lost 4-2. In the dressing roomTommy Carroll took the micky out of the players and Robson. Words were spoken and punches thrown first by Carroll (it is reported) then by Baxter.

The effect was that both players were moved on within weeks of the event. To put that into perspective Baxter was the captain with 450 odd games behind him.

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