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First Town Player to Down Tools 07:04 - Aug 3 with 3120 views

Assuming it's true, is Omari the first Town player ever to down tools and force a move?

It's quite a recent tactic by elite players and their agents, so I doubt it's happened to us before given we'd been out the top flight for so long.

Another reason to hate modern football. SBR would turn in his grave.

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 07:15 - Aug 3 with 2577 views

surreyblue

Did Downes do the same when he left?

Szmodics did the same to force a move through to us as well

First Town Player to Down Tools on 07:21 - Aug 3 with 2524 views

franz_tyson

If I'm brutally honest, I couldn't give a sh1t. It just makes things clearer - Omari goes for good money and we need to look for a replacement. If he went to France, then he's taking a place in the team over someone else and he could get injured. And we need a fit Omari to sell for top dollar ASAP. Sooner this happens, we can get a replacement in.

First Town Player to Down Tools on 07:24 - Aug 3 with 2489 views

yesjohn99

First Town Player to Down Tools on 07:15 - Aug 3 by surreyblue
Did Downes do the same when he left? Szmodics did the same to force a move through to us as well

Still doesn’t make it right though.

First Town Player to Down Tools on 07:27 - Aug 3 with 2466 views

BaltachaFanClub

Steve Sedgley is the first player I can think of who forced a move.
Whether he downed tools however, as it was pre social media there wouldn’t have been much talk

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 07:32 - Aug 3 with 2403 views

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Bobby Petta? Or do I remember incorrectly?

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 07:34 - Aug 3 with 2370 views

Blue_In_Boston

Didn't Szmodics do the same last year, albeit at Blackburn to get his move here?

It's not nice when the boot is on the other foot, but that's modern day football. Contracts are meaningless. We let Morsy out of his to secure a fantastic pay day for himself, which sets a precedence

First Town Player to Down Tools on 07:42 - Aug 3 with 2284 views

Zx1988

IF he actually has downed tools, and there's no suggestion that he has at this point, I hope the club treats him in exactly the same way as Leeds did Gnonto back in 23/24.

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 08:10 - Aug 3 with 2128 views

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 07:32 - Aug 3 by Kropotkin123
Bobby Petta? Or do I remember incorrectly?

I thought he left us on a Bosman!? It was a long time ago now, so I'm not sure about that. He was my absolute favourite player back then though, and I seem to remember being almost broken hearted when he left.

First Town Player to Down Tools on 08:11 - Aug 3 with 2104 views

ArnieM

No, Hutchinson is now Downes MKII …

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 09:14 - Aug 3 with 1839 views

MrBeckinsale

Jonathan Douglas did it, but was in the middle of the pitch at Newcastle at the time.

First Town Player to Down Tools on 09:24 - Aug 3 with 1776 views

MattinLondon

Why would SBR turn in his grave? He was a progressive man who would adapt to the times rather than harking on about the past.

First Town Player to Down Tools on 09:37 - Aug 3 with 1669 views

You_Bloo_Right

Arguably Billy Baxter and Tommy Carroll forced a move didn't they?

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 09:40 - Aug 3 with 1648 views

Libero

It’s not a ‘recent tactic’ at all, it’s been going on for tens of decades.

First Town Player to Down Tools on 09:46 - Aug 3 with 1595 views

Mark

I would hope that if we were bidding for a player and that player downed tools for his current club, we would see he does not have the character we want and so would back out of the deal.

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 09:47 - Aug 3 with 1579 views

J2BLUE

First Town Player to Down Tools on 08:11 - Aug 3 by ArnieM
No, Hutchinson is now Downes MKII …

Do you blame Downes for leaving?

Under Evans we were going nowhere. He would have wasted his career staying here. He left and won a European trophy with his boyhood club. He didn't exactly fail did he?

Get over it.

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 09:57 - Aug 3 with 1507 views

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 07:34 - Aug 3 by Blue_In_Boston
Didn't Szmodics do the same last year, albeit at Blackburn to get his move here? It's not nice when the boot is on the other foot, but that's modern day football. Contracts are meaningless. We let Morsy out of his to secure a fantastic pay day for himself, which sets a precedence

Yeah, he did similar. He trained on his own and wasn’t involved in pre-season games, but then got brought back into the squad as a sub for their cup game.

It is what it is. Slightly frustrating (you can sense KM’s frustration too). I’m not sure it needs to be blown up into a big thing even if ideally Hutch was fully committed until a move materialises.

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 09:58 - Aug 3 with 1483 views

Garv

That's not modern football surely.

Listen to any football podcast like Undr The Cosh or similar and you'll hear all sorts of stories like that.

Walters did it 15 years ago with us. You have to bear in mind that while there is a ridiculous amount of journalism based around elite football, a lot of it is just rumour and regurgitated rubbish, a lot will happen that we don't see or hear about.

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 09:59 - Aug 3 with 1481 views

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Jon Walters did it too, Keane wasn't impressed

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 10:59 - Aug 3 with 1344 views

patrickswell

People have mentioned Sedgely and Petta, but both of them played in the play-off matches in 1997 and 1999 respectively. So while they may have been angling for moves, they were still clearly performing to a standard and attitude where Burley was happy to play them.

Does anyone have any insights into Burley and Sedgely’s relationship, because they clearly didn’t get on when Burley first arrived. Did professionalism end up carrying Sedge through his 3 years?

First Town Player to Down Tools on 11:03 - Aug 3 with 1309 views

BlueOura

Tyler Dibling is "fine and just getting on with it"

Seems not all modern young footballers down tools at the first hint of a transfer. I get that everyone is different but this doesn't reflect well on Omari in comparison.

First Town Player to Down Tools on 11:06 - Aug 3 with 1295 views

Guthrum

From McKenna's comments, it seems to have been they, the coaching staff, who decided to leave Hutchinson out, not the player refusing to go.

Besides which, if Omari is likely to be leaving, why include him in a pre-season workout with no points at stake (which we won, anyway).

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 11:20 - Aug 3 with 1247 views

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 11:06 - Aug 3 by Guthrum
From McKenna's comments, it seems to have been they, the coaching staff, who decided to leave Hutchinson out, not the player refusing to go. Besides which, if Omari is likely to be leaving, why include him in a pre-season workout with no points at stake (which we won, anyway).

Not sure about that, sounds very much like it came from the player to me.

"He didn’t feel mentally in the right place to come for the game,”

Also goes on to mention the club having a right to hold their position.

I'm pretty sure he would have specifically said it was a coaching staff decision if that was the case, and if he had wanted to protect the player. Evidently he didn't, and Omari is now justifiably receiving some criticism.

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 11:40 - Aug 3 with 1160 views

Nutkins_Return

It's just football and it's understandable to a degree. I think 'downed tools' is overstating it. I think if Omari didn't get his move we would have no problems with him and he would be playing this season. I think it's just a huge money deal (which would probably be satisfactory for all parties) and for the sake of one pre-season game he hasn't wanted to take the risk and his head probably isn't right to be fair.

I'm not disgusted with Omari or anything near as in sure McKenna. Bit disappointed. Think we need to take the money and move on and he can still go with big thanks for making us £20 mil and everything else he did for us.

As I say if it doesn't go through I've every confidence in his character that he will be giving 100% for town again. If he didn't and it dragged into the season then would be the time I'd be pretty miffed!

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 12:58 - Aug 3 with 1010 views

Mark

First Town Player to Down Tools on 11:40 - Aug 3 by Nutkins_Return

> Think we need to take the money and move on

But we are probably still in negotiations. The £35m offered was apparently spread over a longer period of time than we wanted, limiting our ability to replace him (especially as a percentage of the profit goes to Chelsea).

First Town Player to Down Tools on 13:01 - Aug 3 with 988 views

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First Town Player to Down Tools on 09:40 - Aug 3 by Libero
It’s not a ‘recent tactic’ at all, it’s been going on for tens of decades.

"tens of decades" would mean since well before 1925.

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