| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly 15:00 - Aug 3 with 1261 views | CopfordBlue |
in the summer and that rather than buying so many new players we should have focused on those that were already here. Now the complaint seems to be that we’re not getting enough new players in for the start of the season.
We’ve got a very strong squad, money to spend, the best manager in the EFL and there’s still several weeks until the transfer window closes. These owners and this management team have never let us down , they won’t do now either. If you’re going to have a moan and criticise how the club is run then at least wait until the end of the transfer window before you start. |  |
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| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:06 - Aug 3 with 1194 views | Steve_M |
We have glaring gaps in central midfield and up front, regardless of the rest of the squad those positions need filling. We should go into this season very well placed but , at the moment, there are some genuine concerns.
Also, we’ve missed out on a striker we wanted three summers in a row now. |  |
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| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:10 - Aug 3 with 1150 views | horsehollerer |
Agreed. We're definitely not done yet.
And I was just thinking, our striker options at the start of the last Championship season were:
• George "never scored at this level" Hirst
• Freddie Ladapo
• Kayden Jackson |  |
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| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:12 - Aug 3 with 1111 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
The first part of your argument makes no sense really, especially when we’ve lost a bunch of players that have been here for years. It’s obviously a genuine concern McKenna has said we are not where we want to be in multiple areas of the pitch.
You don’t have to spin every last thing into a positive. There’s teams that are having very aggressive windows and getting deals done, everyone would have thought we’d have been in better shape at this point with our financial clout at this level. If they are being honest anyway.
As I’ve saying multiple times will happily judge it all on September 1st but make no mistake we have missed out on our number 1 summer target and that’s highly disappointing. |  | | |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:14 - Aug 3 with 1089 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:10 - Aug 3 by horsehollerer |
Agreed. We're definitely not done yet.
And I was just thinking, our striker options at the start of the last Championship season were:
• George "never scored at this level" Hirst
• Freddie Ladapo
• Kayden Jackson |
Can we stop doing this time machine thing when we have been a PL club, spent 130M and gone down with parachute payments. It’s just so pointless, we need to look at current state we assessing the summer. | | | |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:17 - Aug 3 with 1070 views | MillsTash |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:06 - Aug 3 by Steve_M |
We have glaring gaps in central midfield and up front, regardless of the rest of the squad those positions need filling. We should go into this season very well placed but , at the moment, there are some genuine concerns.
Also, we’ve missed out on a striker we wanted three summers in a row now. |
Spot on
We also knew Delap was going and we’d be a striker down very early on. Surely this must have been the first area to target.
Morsy and Mass going early on has half been sorted with Azor but again we should have had this in place early on.
All it takes is a couple more injuries on top of now Townsend and Jaden and we will struggle. |  | | |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:17 - Aug 3 with 1057 views | CopfordBlue |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:06 - Aug 3 by Steve_M |
We have glaring gaps in central midfield and up front, regardless of the rest of the squad those positions need filling. We should go into this season very well placed but , at the moment, there are some genuine concerns.
Also, we’ve missed out on a striker we wanted three summers in a row now. |
I always enjoy reading your posts , you’re knowledgeable about Town and I agree with you most of your posts so don’t want to disagree with you on this.
We do need another midfielder, maybe two and I’m sure we’ll get them in. At the same time I don’t think that there are glaring gaps at the moment either. We’ve got enough to compete over the next few weeks if need be, certainly based on what I’ve seen in pre-season. There are so few strikers around these days that signing a proven one is going to be extremely tough. If (and it’s a big if) Hirst stays fit then he’s good enough to lead the line in a promotion winning team. As we only tend to play with one up front, it may be that a loan signing to compete with Al Hamedi as the player to come on in the 70th minute is what we have to settle for.
Plenty of time yet but far from the end of the world if we start the season with the squad we have minus Omari. | |
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| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:26 - Aug 3 with 980 views | Dubtractor |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:06 - Aug 3 by Steve_M |
We have glaring gaps in central midfield and up front, regardless of the rest of the squad those positions need filling. We should go into this season very well placed but , at the moment, there are some genuine concerns.
Also, we’ve missed out on a striker we wanted three summers in a row now. |
Quite.
The relentless gnashing of teeth at every transfer rumour all summer has been bloody tedious, and one of the main reasons I've not posted much recently, but the simple fact is that our central midfield options look pretty weak at the moment. I posted at the end of last season that if Taylor was a first choice for us this season we'd have a problem, and he will probably start on Friday. Of course we'll sign another midfielder or two, but this can't be how we planned it.
And we very evidently need at least one more CF in the building too, ideally someone to rival Hirst as a starter. |  |
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| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:30 - Aug 3 with 947 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:17 - Aug 3 by CopfordBlue |
I always enjoy reading your posts , you’re knowledgeable about Town and I agree with you most of your posts so don’t want to disagree with you on this.
We do need another midfielder, maybe two and I’m sure we’ll get them in. At the same time I don’t think that there are glaring gaps at the moment either. We’ve got enough to compete over the next few weeks if need be, certainly based on what I’ve seen in pre-season. There are so few strikers around these days that signing a proven one is going to be extremely tough. If (and it’s a big if) Hirst stays fit then he’s good enough to lead the line in a promotion winning team. As we only tend to play with one up front, it may be that a loan signing to compete with Al Hamedi as the player to come on in the 70th minute is what we have to settle for.
Plenty of time yet but far from the end of the world if we start the season with the squad we have minus Omari. |
Why should we be just settling for anything with our budget? A striker to compete with Ali off the bench? One more midfielder?
We need a lot more than you’re thinking, we can’t just get by with over a 46 game season.
I genuinely don’t know if our fans release the financial position we are in at this level reading half of this board sometimes. [Post edited 3 Aug 15:36]
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| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:43 - Aug 3 with 875 views | CopfordBlue |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:12 - Aug 3 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
The first part of your argument makes no sense really, especially when we’ve lost a bunch of players that have been here for years. It’s obviously a genuine concern McKenna has said we are not where we want to be in multiple areas of the pitch.
You don’t have to spin every last thing into a positive. There’s teams that are having very aggressive windows and getting deals done, everyone would have thought we’d have been in better shape at this point with our financial clout at this level. If they are being honest anyway.
As I’ve saying multiple times will happily judge it all on September 1st but make no mistake we have missed out on our number 1 summer target and that’s highly disappointing. |
I’m not trying to spin anything into a positive, I’m just surprised at the level of negativity with weeks of the window still to go and an impressive set of pre-season results. After years and years of watching the club decay, missing out on a couple of players is a bit disappointing but nothing to moan about. We’re aiming high with our transfer targets too which always makes them less likely to come to fruition. | |
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| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:45 - Aug 3 with 842 views | CopfordBlue |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:30 - Aug 3 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Why should we be just settling for anything with our budget? A striker to compete with Ali off the bench? One more midfielder?
We need a lot more than you’re thinking, we can’t just get by with over a 46 game season.
I genuinely don’t know if our fans release the financial position we are in at this level reading half of this board sometimes. [Post edited 3 Aug 15:36]
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I readily admit I don’t understand our budget. What is it? | |
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| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:46 - Aug 3 with 828 views | horsehollerer |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:12 - Aug 3 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
The first part of your argument makes no sense really, especially when we’ve lost a bunch of players that have been here for years. It’s obviously a genuine concern McKenna has said we are not where we want to be in multiple areas of the pitch.
You don’t have to spin every last thing into a positive. There’s teams that are having very aggressive windows and getting deals done, everyone would have thought we’d have been in better shape at this point with our financial clout at this level. If they are being honest anyway.
As I’ve saying multiple times will happily judge it all on September 1st but make no mistake we have missed out on our number 1 summer target and that’s highly disappointing. |
But you are judging it now. | |
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| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:53 - Aug 3 with 792 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:46 - Aug 3 by horsehollerer |
But you are judging it now. |
I am disappointed to be going into week 1 of the season with no new strikers in the building and Jack Taylor starting for us, that’s correct. Especially considering how attractive we should be at this level and the funds available for fees and wages but I’ll obviously revise it as we go.
This clearly wasn’t the plan for right now. | | | |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:53 - Aug 3 with 776 views | FrimleyBlue |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:12 - Aug 3 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
The first part of your argument makes no sense really, especially when we’ve lost a bunch of players that have been here for years. It’s obviously a genuine concern McKenna has said we are not where we want to be in multiple areas of the pitch.
You don’t have to spin every last thing into a positive. There’s teams that are having very aggressive windows and getting deals done, everyone would have thought we’d have been in better shape at this point with our financial clout at this level. If they are being honest anyway.
As I’ve saying multiple times will happily judge it all on September 1st but make no mistake we have missed out on our number 1 summer target and that’s highly disappointing. |
The one thing I'm disappointed in the club for is letting morsy go before we got anyone else in
Yes we have azor. But we shouldn't have let morsy go until another was signed and announced. |  |
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| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:56 - Aug 3 with 774 views | horsehollerer |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:14 - Aug 3 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Can we stop doing this time machine thing when we have been a PL club, spent 130M and gone down with parachute payments. It’s just so pointless, we need to look at current state we assessing the summer. |
Another contradiction. You are moaning about Town spending £130M and still going down, but you are also moaning about Town not spending enough this window (which still has 4 weeks left btw). Can we stop doing this? It's just so pointless, as you would say. | |
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| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:57 - Aug 3 with 754 views | franz_tyson |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:43 - Aug 3 by CopfordBlue |
I’m not trying to spin anything into a positive, I’m just surprised at the level of negativity with weeks of the window still to go and an impressive set of pre-season results. After years and years of watching the club decay, missing out on a couple of players is a bit disappointing but nothing to moan about. We’re aiming high with our transfer targets too which always makes them less likely to come to fruition. |
You are spinning it a tad. Can we be honest.... its not going how we wanted it to be. By being honest, I don't see how that's being negative .
I do wonder if we've set our targets too high. Some of the ones we wanted have obviously been looking at the PL or an elite league.... not Championship level. Surely there's players out there - good, proven Championship players - that fit into a McKenna team and have the capacity to improve with us. I'm hearing too much of that we need to bring in PL ready players when we're bloody well in the Championship. Some fans are already planning for a return to the PL before we've kicked a ball in the Championship. I think we've gone a bit overambitious. | | | |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 16:07 - Aug 3 with 700 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:56 - Aug 3 by horsehollerer |
Another contradiction. You are moaning about Town spending £130M and still going down, but you are also moaning about Town not spending enough this window (which still has 4 weeks left btw). Can we stop doing this? It's just so pointless, as you would say. |
What are banging you on about? I’m not moaning about us going down, I didn’t mention that. I brought up the fees spent because we have spent that much money to build the squad, trade etc.
However, as a parachute club we likely to have a GBP1.5M midfielder signing starting for us that we purchased the summer after we got promoted from league 1, a player that’s never even been a KM starter.
So in terms of squad building we’ve not exactly excelled there at the moment. We will also have Ali as our first and only reserve striker as it stands.
A lot of work to do in certain areas. | | | |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 16:09 - Aug 3 with 684 views | CopfordBlue |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:57 - Aug 3 by franz_tyson |
You are spinning it a tad. Can we be honest.... its not going how we wanted it to be. By being honest, I don't see how that's being negative .
I do wonder if we've set our targets too high. Some of the ones we wanted have obviously been looking at the PL or an elite league.... not Championship level. Surely there's players out there - good, proven Championship players - that fit into a McKenna team and have the capacity to improve with us. I'm hearing too much of that we need to bring in PL ready players when we're bloody well in the Championship. Some fans are already planning for a return to the PL before we've kicked a ball in the Championship. I think we've gone a bit overambitious. |
I am being honest. I posted at the end of last season saying I thought this year would be tough and that those who were expecting it to be straight forward could be in for a shock. I didn’t expect this summer to be an easy one for us.
As I said in an earlier post, we’re aiming very high with our transfer targets and that means that most won’t come off. I anticipate that as the window draws to a close, one or two deals may be resurrected and we’ll also move to second or maybe third choice options or loan deals that will be relatively straight forward to secure.
I like what I’ve seen in pre-season, I think we’re well-positioned and will have a decent season. That’s all any fan can ask for surely. | |
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| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 16:19 - Aug 3 with 619 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 16:09 - Aug 3 by CopfordBlue |
I am being honest. I posted at the end of last season saying I thought this year would be tough and that those who were expecting it to be straight forward could be in for a shock. I didn’t expect this summer to be an easy one for us.
As I said in an earlier post, we’re aiming very high with our transfer targets and that means that most won’t come off. I anticipate that as the window draws to a close, one or two deals may be resurrected and we’ll also move to second or maybe third choice options or loan deals that will be relatively straight forward to secure.
I like what I’ve seen in pre-season, I think we’re well-positioned and will have a decent season. That’s all any fan can ask for surely. |
No, we should have anticipated a couple of 8 figure signings to strengthen and the a few PL loans, let’s hope some of that still happens. | | | |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 16:20 - Aug 3 with 616 views | blueoutlook |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:12 - Aug 3 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
The first part of your argument makes no sense really, especially when we’ve lost a bunch of players that have been here for years. It’s obviously a genuine concern McKenna has said we are not where we want to be in multiple areas of the pitch.
You don’t have to spin every last thing into a positive. There’s teams that are having very aggressive windows and getting deals done, everyone would have thought we’d have been in better shape at this point with our financial clout at this level. If they are being honest anyway.
As I’ve saying multiple times will happily judge it all on September 1st but make no mistake we have missed out on our number 1 summer target and that’s highly disappointing. |
Totally agree with this. Couldn’t have said it better, so I won’t. |  | | |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 16:22 - Aug 3 with 609 views | franz_tyson |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 16:09 - Aug 3 by CopfordBlue |
I am being honest. I posted at the end of last season saying I thought this year would be tough and that those who were expecting it to be straight forward could be in for a shock. I didn’t expect this summer to be an easy one for us.
As I said in an earlier post, we’re aiming very high with our transfer targets and that means that most won’t come off. I anticipate that as the window draws to a close, one or two deals may be resurrected and we’ll also move to second or maybe third choice options or loan deals that will be relatively straight forward to secure.
I like what I’ve seen in pre-season, I think we’re well-positioned and will have a decent season. That’s all any fan can ask for surely. |
I think it will be tough, too, and I'm not expecting top two - just hopeful.
It's all very well saying we'll get 2nd or 3rd choice targets later on, but they may been snapped up by then OR clubs won't sell because they can't get replacements in. Then you're looking at 4th, 5th, 6th choices or Gassan Ahadme | | | |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 16:34 - Aug 3 with 564 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:45 - Aug 3 by CopfordBlue |
I readily admit I don’t understand our budget. What is it? |
With parachute payments, for teams that come down and usually sell a couple for a decent price, it certainly wouldn’t be unusual for said club to spend 30-40M+ on new signings, if anything you expect that to increase year on year. So far we’ve spent less than Norwich on incoming fees for what it’s worth.
Obviously we would all be feeling a lot better if Hakcney came off and with the agreed fee that shows how much we are willing to spend and what we have available. | | | |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 19:47 - Aug 3 with 362 views | Alberto_the_frog |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 15:14 - Aug 3 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Can we stop doing this time machine thing when we have been a PL club, spent 130M and gone down with parachute payments. It’s just so pointless, we need to look at current state we assessing the summer. |
Although not the focus of the original post, I think it's very worthwhile comparing our squad with that of two years ago. They got us promoted,so if we think our current one is better,we'll feel better about our chances this season. Of the 11 players who started most league games that season, 7 are still with us. The others were Hladky, Burgess, Morsy and Luongo. I think the current squad is stronger. Yes, we could do with a midfielder and forward but the main thing to think about is that we need to move about half a dozen out by the end of the window for that to happen. [Post edited 3 Aug 19:50]
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| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 20:06 - Aug 3 with 308 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| At the end of last season many fans were saying the squad changed too quickly on 19:47 - Aug 3 by Alberto_the_frog |
Although not the focus of the original post, I think it's very worthwhile comparing our squad with that of two years ago. They got us promoted,so if we think our current one is better,we'll feel better about our chances this season. Of the 11 players who started most league games that season, 7 are still with us. The others were Hladky, Burgess, Morsy and Luongo. I think the current squad is stronger. Yes, we could do with a midfielder and forward but the main thing to think about is that we need to move about half a dozen out by the end of the window for that to happen. [Post edited 3 Aug 19:50]
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That team was an outlier, a rocket ship of momentum from probably the best second half a season side L1 has ever seen.
Once the Jan signings clicked, it was always too good by a country mile for L1 and KM had us playing an incredible high intensity attacking style, that average championship sides were not really ready for. I don’t think we were as good as Leeds that year as a 11 v 11 team (as Elland Road showed) but we were beating everyone else when our rival slipped up.
Not sure it’s worth drawing too many comparisons to that, we are now the parachute club so it’s a different ballgame. | | | |
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